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Old 09-27-2009, 01:09 PM
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A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

Can A Link to the Past be on both timelines?

I was thinking of a way to end ZU's main conflict right now (placement of ALttP). And it came to me, two different versions, which are the same game, with one little twist in one. The four sword.

Now, before all of you dismiss this, just saying ALttP was just made because they ruined OoT being the imprisoning war, think of this. The virtual console, you know.... Wii....? In this wii virtual console, the four sword dungeon didn't exist. Why, because there was simply no connection to do four swords then do the dungeon, and find the FS broken. This means that they didn't add the dungeon because of just that glitch, or... ALttP exists on both side.

Side 1) ALttP refers back to OoT's imprisoning war, and follows from there.

Side 2) ALttP refers to the events of Ganon being trapped in the FS, the being released.

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Old 09-27-2009, 01:31 PM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

I thought this a long time ago. I love to believe it. I wish there was a way to prove it.
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Old 09-27-2009, 01:32 PM
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I thought this a long time ago. I love to believe it. I wish there was a way to prove it.
Yeah, I know, the only thing I have to prove it is the VC, which really isn't much...
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Old 09-27-2009, 01:36 PM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

Hombre beat you to it and provided explanations: The Double ALttP Theory
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:09 PM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

Since Hombre's thread is closed, we can still talk on this one. Same thing here. WATTIES THEORY, HAD IT ON FREEWEBS BEFORE HOMBRE WAS BORN.... you know......... hmph it's the Hobre Watties theory now. Anyway, discuss, there really isn't a problem with it.
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:58 PM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

Just to let you know, the VC version is the SNES version and you can just call the other version you're referring to "the GBA version".
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:19 AM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

Two EXACT happenings on seperate timelines? Pass. Two SIMILAR happenings on seperate timelines, with differing characters, location, monsters, etc.? More probable. I for one, believe LoZ and ALttP to be parallel.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:40 AM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

The main reason to believe there are 2 ALttP's is that the SNES and GBA version are very different when it comes to backstory. Also the GBA version makes that extra connection to FSA, which the SNES version does not.
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:11 PM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

The difficulty being:

Aside from the Four Sword Palace, the circumstances present in ALttP would be exactly the same on both timelines. Given the drastically different scenarios that would lead to ALttP in this theory, this would be unlikely to the point of ridiculousness.
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:47 PM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

^ if you find it likely that AlttP goes sometime after TP and if you find it likely that ALttP goes sometime after FSA on the AT then no, not really.
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Old 09-28-2009, 01:53 PM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

Aside from the Master Sword pedestal being an obvious reference and the fact that its story resetting to a new spot on the timeline would clear up problems, I can't think of any reason why ALttP should go after TP. The former is a good proof, but there's nothing else particularly swinging that I can think of, and the latter isn't really proof.
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Old 09-28-2009, 02:13 PM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

^ What about the Ancient Sages (all male Hylians) being the closest match we have to the Sages (all male Hylians) as described in ALttP?
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Old 09-28-2009, 04:18 PM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

^

Which is the principal subject of ALTTP backstoy?

Ganondorf entering into the sacred Realm,taking the whole triforce and turning the Sacred realm into the Dark world, right?

That happen in TP or OOT(CT)? NO!


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Old 09-28-2009, 05:26 PM
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Which is the principal subject of ALTTP backstoy?

Ganondorf entering into the sacred Realm,taking the whole triforce and turning the Sacred realm into the Dark world, right?

That happen in TP or OOT(CT)? NO!


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Maybe, one could theoredicly just then put FSA then on the child timeline to explain that, but MC fits better after the flood, with new Hyrule geography and all. Ganon had to do something, which we are un aware of at the moment. Maybe Zelda wii will explain something, but we expected TP to, and all it did was add more mystery.

At least your an AT guy lol I like you.

This next Part is ONLY for people putting ALttP on the CT side ONLY

By the way, anyone remember the quote "...And the Master Sword sleeps again... Forever"

You see, everyone pays attention to the forever part. To be a theorist, you need to pay attention to the small little kiddie words. AGAIN
See, any one saying it's CT only seem to think a forest is the only thing that matters... right... You all argue the Master Sword was lost and laid to rest in WW. Well, exactly, FSA happends, so the master sword is resting, putting Gustaf after the flood, MC happends in new hyrule, and they slowly build old hyrule back, and bam ALttP right there, AT. Something called paying attention.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:50 PM
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Re: A Link to the Past -- On Both Timelines?

I didn't understand that last paragraph at all... That didn't really mean anything.
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Old 09-28-2009, 05:55 PM
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^ Then actually read it.
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You see, everyone pays attention to the forever part. To be a theorist, you need to pay attention to the small little kiddie words. AGAIN
See, any one saying it's CT only seem to think a forest is the only thing that matters... right... You all argue the Master Sword was lost and laid to rest in WW. Well, exactly, FSA happends, so the master sword is resting, putting Gustaf after the flood, MC happends in new hyrule, and they slowly build old hyrule back, and bam ALttP right there, AT. Something called paying attention.
I have read it, and it still doesn't make sense. I really don't know what the purpose of this is, but it seems condescending, so I wish to know more of its meaning and intention before attempting to respond in a facetious and similarly illogically condescending manner. It doesn't seem to answer any question asked or even refer to its own subject of 'forever'. I especially don't see what on earth paying attention to anything has to do with it.

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Which is the principal subject of ALTTP backstoy?

Ganondorf entering into the sacred Realm,taking the whole triforce and turning the Sacred realm into the Dark world, right?

That happen in TP or OOT(CT)? NO!
Also didn't happen in the AT. Oh well.
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I have read it, and it still doesn't make sense. I really don't know what the purpose of this is, but it seems condescending, so I wish to know more of its meaning and intention before attempting to respond in a facetious and similarly illogically condescending manner. It doesn't seem to answer any question asked or even refer to its own subject of 'forever'. I especially don't see what on earth paying attention to anything has to do with it.



Also didn't happen in the AT. Oh well.
Alright, sorry, my grammar is a little off lol, typing in a rush. I'm going to work on the kinks, and re-submit it in a new thread. Thanks for the constructive criticism.
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The main reason to believe there are 2 ALttP's is that the SNES and GBA version are very different when it comes to backstory. Also the GBA version makes that extra connection to FSA, which the SNES version does not.
Something I found REALLY interesting was the "Zelda is your..."
So much guessing. Maybe on one side of the timeline Zelda banged a Link and now they're related. Or, it's just something like "Zelda is your princess"... nah too bland.
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