Did The Dark Realm Stay Dark?

well, i was just peering into the history of ALttP and (realizing that it fits better on the CT after TP) saw that the history of ALttP is, of course, the Adult Side of OoT. but here is a question. Does the Dark realm transcend Space and split times?

Here's my Child Timeline: MC-OoT-MM-FS-FSA-TP-LCT-ALttP-LA-OoS-OoA-LoZ-AoL

As you can see ALttP occurs mid-ish. Does any point inbetween there ever show a hint of the Dark Realm and the Sacred realm? does any game claim that the Realms are pure and full of Light. It seems that the Dark Realm aspect to ALttP's BS is still intact...

AoL said that Ganon's minions summoned new forces from the "Demon World" after his defeat. (Translated "Realm of Evil.)

ALttP's backstory states that the Sacred Realm became the "World of Darkness" when Ganon made his wish on the Triforce. (Translated "Dark World.")

OoT was set to tell the story of ALttP's backstory, and it too had the Sacred Realm transform into the "World of Darkness." It also classified the "World of Darkness" as a "Demon World." (Translated "Evil Realm.")

OoX said that Onox and Veran were summoned from the "Demon World" (translated "Dark Realm.")

TWW also spoke of Ganon's "Demon World," presumably the one from OoT. (Translated "Dark Realm.")

FSA featured the "World of Darkness" (also called a "Demon World", translated "Dark World.")

In ALttP we are blatantly told that Ganon's death/a good person wishing on the Triforce would purify the Sacred Realm. Thus, in addition to ALttP, the Sacred Realm presumably returned to normal in TWW and AoL (that is, if AoL's Makai was in fact the corrupted Sacred Realm).

Originally Posted by Artemicion

OoX said that Onox and Veran were summoned from the "Demon World" (translated "Dark Realm.")

Actually, the Japanese term for that is a bit different. I'll try to find it.

Originally Posted by Artemicion

FSA featured the "World of Darkness" (also called a "Demon World", translated "Dark World.")

While it was a Makai, the Japanese text of FSA suggests that it wasn't the Sacred Realm. Just pointing this out for Ojlink9's sake.

no some one eventually switched the ligths on.

lol, hmm. so my timeline has Veran and Onox coming from no where, ganons minions in AoL also coming from out of nowhere.

So... when Link came back from the corrupted future (we all agree that...) the Dark realm Stayed Dark. Regardless of Time Splits and What have you. ?


* Also... Link, according to my timeline, can be both the hero of time and the hero of four swords. four swords link and zelda already know eachother, and link and zelda meet in OoT. And link and zelda meet again (like zelda promised in MM Flashback) and this can be the great deed the hero is known for in TP. and the resolve is a new ganon being born and sealed, and the conclusion to both the four swords saga and the trials of the hero of time. solved FOUR in one. XD XD

* Holy crap: another edit. LOL, The fairies at the Beginning of FOUR SWORDS gba. They can Be Tatl, Tael, and NAVI. YESSS
THE COLORS EVEN MATCH: Navi=Blue, Tatl=Bright Yellow/the color of Light, Tael not so much... Silver = Purple... aw well, cant win em all.

The events of AT OoT were also legendary on the CT

While it was a Makai, the Japanese text of FSA suggests that it wasn't the Sacred Realm. Just pointing this out for Ojlink9's sake.

Bull****.

The Japanese text only says that the MGW is a dark mirror of Hyrule. I've looked through the Japanese text myself: MPS is strait out lying.

Originally Posted by Cukeman

The events of AT OoT were also legendary on the CT

It can't be, as it never happend.

^ Link remembered it, and he must've shared his story. Remember in MM how Link
is regarded as a legendary hero? Legendary for what, if not his his AT adventure?

Originally Posted by MM

In the land of Hyrule, there
echoes a legend. A legend held
dearly by the Royal Family that
tells of a boy...

A boy who,
after battling evil and saving
Hyrule, crept away from the land
that had made him a legend...

Done with the battles he once
waged across time, he embarked
on a journey. A secret and
personal journey...

A journey in search of a
beloved and invaluable friend...

A friend with whom he parted
ways when he finally fulfilled his
heroic destiny and took his place
among legends...

EDIT: It clearly says that he became a legend when Navi left him

^TP retcons that.

what do you mean by that?

Originally Posted by Cukeman

^ Link remembered it, and he must've shared his story. Remember in MM how Link
is regarded as a legendary hero? Legendary for what, if not his his AT adventure?



EDIT: It clearly says that he became a legend when Navi left him

I get what your saying, but MM was made back when the timeline was still linear. Also, in games, they use those techniques to make people be like "oh yeah, that was me. that was was a good game, i had fun, cant wait to get pumped for this"

If I came up to you and I was like "Yo, sup, I just travelled 7 years in the future and killed some guy, saved the world." You would regard me as crazy. The only way it could be done is showing everyone the sacred mark on your hand.

Theres 1 person who would believe it: Zelda

1 Person that might: Saria

The point is that whether or not the timeline was linear, MM Link was still regarded as a hero
for something that either:
- didn't happen yet
- happened on the AT

I think that it might be possible that the Twilight Realm turned into the dark realm.

Originally Posted by Cukeman

The point is that whether or not the timeline was linear, MM Link was still regarded as a hero
for something that either:
- didn't happen yet
- happened on the AT

Who said he was regarded as a hero, he was on the AT, at the end of the game. In the timeline, you need to take in what Nintendo made as an effect, a very important aspect of game making.

I'm not sure what you said. Are you telling me that the MM text I quoted only is canon
if the timeline is linear?

I don't believe that to be the case.

Originally Posted by Pinecove

Bull****.

The Japanese text only says that the MGW is a dark mirror of Hyrule.

And it suggests/implies that it was created through Ganon's power, not the Sacred Realm. It wouldn't even make sense if it were the Sacred Realm, since Ganon would go right after the Triforce at that point. Seeing as how MPS is an actual Japanese person who has often assisted LA's translators, I doubt your claim about him lying.

Edit: Here's the OoX Dark World stuff. It's on the first page of this thread and starts in post #15.

http://forums.legendsalliance.com/in...opic=17965&hl=

Unless the Triforce wasn't in the Sacred Realm by that point- if it were the Dark World but the Triforce be hidden elsewhere- perhaps somewhere in Hyrule.... North Castle perhaps...

You know... a lot of people do seem to know that Child Link is a legend (Between OoT and TP)... MM's Prologue seems to make it seem like the time travel barely had an affect on LINKS Status. hmm... and plus, these are games made on magic and mysticism. lets just go with what the games say and be done with it (Making MM's prologue canon to be regarded as Context worthy)