Timelines: Is there even an Adult and Child Timeline?

Originally Posted by xoɹǝpnpɐpןǝz

Have you been listening to any of this thread at all?

lolno.

Firstly, neither of those branches are the adult timeline or the child timeline. It's just an alternate splitting after OoT.

That makes no sense. The timeline doesn't split after MM.
Why do that, when AT and CT are confirmed?

You SHOULD be listening to this thread. Firstly, you can't make assumptions right away. Miyamato and Aonuma said that OoT comes first, but alot of people do believe and it is very likely for the Minish Cap to come fisrt.

Even if the AT and CT was true (Which it may or not be) this is just an alternate way to decide whether or not this timeline should work if the AT and CT wasn't. You can believe what you want, but I just want you to accept it as a valid possibility.

Originally Posted by xoɹǝpnpɐpןǝz

You SHOULD be listening to this thread. Firstly, you can't make assumptions right away. Miyamato and Aonuma said that OoT comes first, but alot of people do believe and it is very likely for the Minish Cap to come fisrt.

Miyamoto said that the order is OoT - aLttP - LoZ - AoL and LA can happen anywhere after OoT.

Aonuma also said that he's thinking that Four Sword is the earliest tale, which is why people think that MC is first.

Even if the AT and CT was true (Which it may or not be) this is just an alternate way to decide whether or not this timeline should work if the AT and CT wasn't. You can believe what you want, but I just want you to accept it as a valid possibility.

I'd accept it as a possibility if it was better thought out.


.........--MM--TP--LoZ--AoL
OoT
.........--MM--WW--PH--OoX--ALttP--LA

Everything bolded is correct. There are interviews attesting to this.

I accept that the timelines might not be called AT and CT officially.
And I personally believe that OoT is first.

Originally Posted by Twilit_Hylian

Miyamoto said that the order is OoT - aLttP - LoZ - AoL and LA can happen anywhere after OoT.

For someone who prides himself on following unquestionable quotes by the game developers and storywriters, I'd get my facts straight if I were you. Miyamoto did NOT say that the order was OoT-ALttP-LoZ-AoL. In fact, he put LoZ and AoL BEFORE ALttP.

Aonuma also said that he's thinking that Four Sword is the earliest tale, which is why people think that MC is first.

Though I personally believe that MC comes before OoT, when did Aonuma say this? I want to see a quote.

.........--MM--TP--LoZ--AoL
OoT
.........--MM--WW--PH--OoX--ALttP--LA

...Why did you put MM on the AT? You put it there...twice, once on each timeline. Wierdo...

Originally Posted by Twilit_Hylian

Miyamoto said that the order is OoT - aLttP - LoZ - AoL and LA can happen anywhere after OoT.

No, he said OoT-LoZ/AoL-ALttP with LA going anywhere after OoT. I've told you this twice now.

Originally Posted by xoɹǝpnpɐpןǝz

Firstly, neither of those branches are the adult timeline or the child timeline. It's just an alternate splitting after OoT.

What the **** is the difference? AT and CT are just the names people gave them, they mean nothing.

^Easy there. The AT and CT include the paradox at the end of OoT, my timeline:

........--MM--TP--LoZ--AoL
OoT
........--MM--WW--PH--OoX--MC--FS/FSA--ALttP--LA

does not. That is what the difference is.

...Why did you put MM on the AT? You put it there...twice, once on each timeline. Wierdo...

Don't call me a weirdo, that hurts man. That hurts. (Just kidding.) But seriously, if there ALttP can appear on either side of the timeline (Hombre's theory) then why can't Majora' Mask? If that bothers you so much, then I suppose this would work too:

....................--TP--LoZ--AoL
OoT--MM
....................--WW--PH--OoX--MC--FS/FSA--ALttP--LA

I'm not saying you should believe it, I just want you to accept it as a valid possibility.

Originally Posted by xoɹǝpnpɐpןǝz

Don't call me a weirdo, that hurts man. That hurts. (Just kidding.) But seriously, if there ALttP can appear on either side of the timeline (Hombre's theory) then why can't Majora' Mask? If that bothers you so much, then I suppose this would work too:

....................--TP--LoZ--AoL
OoT--MM
....................--WW--PH--OoX--MC--FS/FSA--ALttP--LA

I'm not saying you should believe it, I just want you to accept it as a valid possibility.

Hmph, Hombre, AND WATTIES theory. Had that theory before Hombre was born on my Zelda website (lol). I see that you want MM to appear on both, but the fact is it is impossible, due to it being the kiddie OoT Link after he got sent back. In the AT he was in the SR chillin out havin a fun time.

Originally Posted by xoɹǝpnpɐpןǝz

Don't call me a weirdo, that hurts man. That hurts. (Just kidding.)

Everyone needs a bit of the wierd in them, but I guess I just didn't understand where you were coming from, making me actually state how wierd things really seemed. As a matter of fact, I still don't quite see what you're getting at with the MM placement there.

But seriously, if there ALttP can appear on either side of the timeline (Hombre's theory) then why can't Majora' Mask?

Why pick Majora's Mask to be the lab rat in this experiment? It's got feelings, you know.

I'm not saying you should believe it, I just want you to accept it as a valid possibility.

LOL. Alright, fine. Accepting it thus will now permit me to debate it on the whims of my own fancies. Actually, it still bothers me...so that's why I want to naysay.

Debate!!!

Majora's Mask features Child Link, having been recently sent back in time by Zelda after vanquishing Ganondorf seven years in the future. According to Aonuma our little green-clad friend gets sent back to a time before Ganondorf has even entered the Sacred Realm, giving the young hero and princess time to plot and plan and sack the Demon Thief before his little scheme comes to fruition. Boo hoo, G-dorf. Yay Link and Zelda.

I digress. This same Link no longer exists seven years in the future, much less as a child. He goes and has his adventures in Termina on his timeline, the one where he and Zelda preempt Ganny from entering the SR, and no such occurrances are present seven years in the future, following the defeat of big pig lord Ganon and his subsequent sealing into the SR.

Basically, I find it silly to think that MM happens on the AT for these reasons. MM must come on the CT to make any shred of sense.

If what you're suggesting is that it happens on the AT at the same exact time...then I don't see the logistics for that being so and you must explain in detail...unless you already have (I haven't followed the thread as well as most of you so a good pasting of a quote will suffice for me).

Originally Posted by Sparty

For someone who prides himself on following unquestionable quotes by the game developers and storywriters, I'd get my facts straight if I were you. Miyamoto did NOT say that the order was OoT-ALttP-LoZ-AoL. In fact, he put LoZ and AoL BEFORE ALttP.

Honest mistake. I haven't seen the quote in a while.

Though I personally believe that MC comes before OoT, when did Aonuma say this? I want to see a quote.

In 2004. I'm searching for it now.
http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Sto...1915.59084.htm

BB: That’s something that, you (Bill Trinen – Localization Team) and I have talked about with the release of the Zelda compilation disc, cleaning up some of the spellings like Ganon, and making sure everything is cohesive. Maybe that’s an American thing – us wanting to know how it all works together. I guess that leads me to my next questions. How do the Links in The Four Swords Adventure relate to the overall story line? Or is it just a subchapter or something like that?

EA: The GBA Four Swords Zelda is what we’re thinking as the oldest tale in the Zelda timeline. With this one on the GameCube being a sequel to that, and taking place sometime after that.

Don't call me a weirdo, that hurts man. That hurts. (Just kidding.) But seriously, if there ALttP can appear on either side of the timeline (Hombre's theory) then why can't Majora' Mask? If that bothers you so much, then I suppose this would work too:

1. Because the split happened before MM.
2. Link went back to his time, and went to Termina.
3. The time he left, however, was without a hero.usly, no MM. Whch is why it's flooded in WW. Because the HoT exited the timestream and never came back.

That's why MM can't go on both.

Hehe, I think I finally have a way to prove MC isn't first, that people might listen to. It comes out with my timeline on December 10th.

Originally Posted by Watties

Hehe, I think I finally have a way to prove MC isn't first, that people might listen to. It comes out with my timeline on December 10th.

Thanks to that interview with Aonuma, the quote we were just provided above, it seems that MC, FS, and FSA are the oldest adventures in Hyrule to date, meaning they take place BEFORE OoT, no questions asked. My suspicions are confirmed. Thank you so much.

Hmph, Hombre, AND WATTIES theory. Had that theory before Hombre was born on my Zelda website (lol). I see that you want MM to appear on both, but the fact is it is impossible, due to it being the kiddie OoT Link after he got sent back. In the AT he was in the SR chillin out havin a fun time.

I don't know how many times I'm going to have to say this:

THE TIMELINE DOESN'T APPLY TO THE RULES OF THE PARADOX AT THE END OF OOT. IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER DOES IT APPLY TO THE AT AND CT, IT IS JUST AN ALTERNATIVE SPLITTING AFTER OOT. SO NO, NO I SAY. NO IT DOES NOT APPLPY TO ANY OF THE RULES THAT A NORMAL AT AND CT WOULD.

I told you that you would get some nasty arguments with double MM....

Reminds me of when I thought FSA could possibly happen after ALttP and I brought it up in discussion. Man...I got shot down mighty quick on that one.

That actually sounds logical. I don't know why people are so critical *cough* Twilit_Hylian *cough*.

The double MM theory is quite good, but the placement of everything is hardly different from an AT/CT timeline as MM has no overall timeline relevance and doesn't affect anything.

^Yes, thankyou!

I don't know how or why it affects everything so drastically. You guys that are arguing against me sound ALOT like Ocarinahero10. Which is a bad thing.

Anyway, you could easily just remove MM from before WW to make a fine AT/CT timeline and avoid further arguments.

But that's the thing, I think that the legend in the beginning of WW totally is saying the one of MM.