World of Warcraft - High Budget Movie

Originally Posted by Devia Erasmus

Considering the scope of WoW lore is on par with tolkien

Please don't make that comparison again, I don't think my brain can handle it

Originally Posted by dangercheetah

Please don't make that comparison again, I don't think my brain can handle it

is it better if I use Dune instead?


Also I reported your n!gger post in the sd.

Originally Posted by Devia Erasmus

I reported your n!gger post in the sd.

You keep comparing classic literature to mediocre fantasy almost entirely comprised of homages, and then you report me. What are you, a faggot?

Originally Posted by dangercheetah

You keep comparing classic literature to mediocre fantasy almost entirely comprised of homages, and then you report me. What are you, a faggot?

Sounds like someone was ganked one too many times on the elemental plateau grinding motes of air.

Originally Posted by Devia Erasmus

Sounds like someone was ganked one too many times on the elemental plateau grinding motes of air.

No, I just know the difference between classic and generic

Originally Posted by dangercheetah

No, I just know the difference between classic and generic

Warcraft isn't generic, though. Sure, Warcraft relies on plenty of fantasy staples (WoW does have its orcs and elves, for example), but often, Warcraft puts a unique spin on those age-old fantasy elements (Very few, if any, fantasy universes portray a race as brutish as the orcs, for instance, with sympathy; however, with the Warcraft universe, one of the most noble characters is the chieftan of the orcs. There's also all of the other little quirks, such as the steampunk-mixed-with-medieval atmosphere, dwarves with guns, dimensional ships, etc.)

While you're right in that Tolkien is classic and Warcraft lore isn't, you're forgetting that for something to be considered a "classic," it must be loved for decades. Warcraft lore certainly isn't something to scoff at, and if the Warcraft universe continues to be cherished by fans for decades, it may very well be considered a "classic" of its genre.

I can't say I've ever considered World of Warcraft to be on a par with Lord of the Rings, myself...

Originally Posted by Devia Erasmus

Also I reported your n!gger post in the sd.

If you used the "Report" button, just letting you know that apparently that system is broken (at least, that's what I've read recently).

Originally Posted by Astarael

I can't say I've ever considered World of Warcraft to be on a par with Lord of the Rings, myself...

It isn't. But that definitely doesn't mean that its lore is generic or poorly written; often, tales within the Warcraft universe prove that Warcraft lore is quite the opposite.

I'm bettin it gonna fail

Originally Posted by Devia Erasmus

Considering the scope of WoW lore is on par with tolkien, there shouldn't be a problem with grand plot and epic battle scenes.

I do worry about having absolutely no memorable characters to identify with as we had with LoTR. Tolkien did most of the characterization for Jackson.

This director will be working mostly from scratch in that department.

and star wars episode II dialogue could be a problem, but who knows.

Not really though. In the LOTR MMO you also play some faceless grunt who slowly develops into a hero, but your faceless grunt is still no match for somebody like Legolas.

I doubt the movie will be about 25 no names killing Illidan and more about illustrating some of the major lore events or one of the major lore events that have happened in WoW's story. It'll probably be about, or at least involve some of the Warcraft Universe's Heroes.

Also, homages aren't a bad thing. Every single Tarantino film is a large homage to the genre it's based in. Movies like Kill Bill actually go so far as to use sound effects and songs from the movies that influenced it, it's a film that doesn't exist without the films that came prior to it, but it's still a great film because on top of it's homages, it still works on it.

That's how I view the Warcraft Universe. A lot is borrowed, but the right amounts are borrowed and made to work with other borrowed parts, combined with a lot of other things that people mentioned.

WoW has made questionable lore changes in favor of gameplay changes, and that's where it gets it's only real weaknesses. Otherwise I still look at the Warcraft universe as one of the best places to find top notch stories.

However, Sam Rami directing this movie is a very bad thing. While he directed one of the best superhero films of all time in Spider Man 2, he also directed one of the worst with Spider Man 3.

Sam Rami is the king of camp and I'd say that his potential to **** this up is pretty high.

Originally Posted by Andross

Warcraft isn't generic, though. Sure, Warcraft relies on plenty of fantasy staples (WoW does have its orcs and elves, for example), but often, Warcraft puts a unique spin on those age-old fantasy elements (Very few, if any, fantasy universes portray a race as brutish as the orcs, for instance, with sympathy; however, with the Warcraft universe, one of the most noble characters is the chieftan of the orcs. There's also all of the other little quirks, such as the steampunk-mixed-with-medieval atmosphere, dwarves with guns, dimensional ships, etc.)

None of that is original. While Orcs, as a race, are rarely depicted as being shamanistic and noble, the Orcs of warcraft still fit in a commonly-held niche across almost all fantasy mediums. Noble Barbarian ain't a breath of fresh air, mate

As for their depiction of dwarves... well, they're just a less-interesting take on the dwarves popularized by Warhammber Fantasy Battle, which is the father of Blizzard's Warcraft, let's not forget (and the son of Tolkein's Lord of the Rings itself. Warcraft is the ****ing GRANDSON). They are also steampunk and grizzled, except instead of being whiny about not remembering their origins, they're isolationalist and hateful

Don't get me wrong, I like Warcraft. If there's anything I played religiously back in the day it was the three Warcrafts, and I have also been known to obsess over WoW. I like the lore, it's funny and popcorn, for fantasy. But that's all it is, don't go comparing it to Lord of the ****ing Rings. WoW is nothing more than a collection of fantasy cliches polished and mostly un-nerdified for the general public to digest without fear of being one of those satan-worshipping Dungeons and Dragons players

Originally Posted by dangercheetah

None of that is original. While Orcs, as a race, are rarely depicted as being shamanistic and noble, the Orcs of warcraft still fit in a commonly-held niche across almost all fantasy mediums. Noble Barbarian ain't a breath of fresh air, mate

As for their depiction of dwarves... well, they're just a less-interesting take on the dwarves popularized by Warhammber Fantasy Battle, which is the father of Blizzard's Warcraft, let's not forget (and the son of Tolkein's Lord of the Rings itself. Warcraft is the ****ing GRANDSON). They are also steampunk and grizzled, except instead of being whiny about not remembering their origins, they're isolationalist and hateful

Don't get me wrong, I like Warcraft. If there's anything I played religiously back in the day it was the three Warcrafts, and I have also been known to obsess over WoW. I like the lore, it's funny and popcorn, for fantasy. But that's all it is, don't go comparing it to Lord of the ****ing Rings. WoW is nothing more than a collection of fantasy cliches polished and mostly un-nerdified for the general public to digest without fear of being one of those satan-worshipping Dungeons and Dragons players

You belittle this feat, but what they've essentially done is taken inspirations from the lore of several vastly huge worlds and woven them into a cohesive whole, and turning that into an interactive world.

It's like mashing 10 symphonies together from composers across the board. You may not respect that, but it's still a difficult feat on the scale that they've managed to accomplish.

Originality=/creativity

even looking strictly at the lore, I think there's potential there.

Originally Posted by Devia Erasmus

Originality=/creativity

No, but you'd be hard pressed to have one without the other :p

Originally Posted by dangercheetah

No, but you'd be hard pressed to have one without the other :p

well, yes sometimes.

I just really enjoyed the creationism lore in WoW, mostly because it was a big tip of the hat towards Silmarillion.

I just hope the dialogue doesn't suck.

Do we know which writer is on board for the script yet?