The Out of Character Thread: OBAMALLAMAPAJAMA~!

Originally Posted by Puck

Allow Puck to explain.

Puck goes to school, when he is not at school he is doing homework, when he is not doing homework he is sleeping(An invalid attempt to get ready for school the next day) when he is not sleeping he is working, and when he is not working he is trying to spend as much time with his niece as possible before she grows up. As one can easily see Puck has lots to do, seriously...his school is killing him...slowly...

also he's sick

Bleh.

(Edit: It should also be noted that Puck has been spending a good chunk of his free time reading)

Point taken. :|

He tries to get on though, he sneaks on at lunch when he should be working, (Though often he spends his lunch reading) and he goes on late nights when he doesn't have homework! It's just hard for him to juggle all this stuff, specially with the lovely and wild mood fluxuations that have been hitting puck recently at the worst possible moments(Have you ever become really REALLY hyper in the middle of an important test? it's awful =/)

NEway

Puck is going to try to post in stuff...friday and saturday, possible sunday. That's the plan, savvy!

Also he is going to sweep the character section friday when he returns from a hard day at school!

Also

HI~

Originally Posted by Ciroton

Indeed. I love when games add subtle little refferences like that into the world. It makes it feel much more vibrant and alive, no?

Funny. Mine was abandoned just after Fuji Mountain (after arriving in Tethe'alla, or however yo spell it)

Yah--and I love when they make references to previous games too. Even if they're only passing mentions. Tales games do a great job of putting in little shout-outs like that. <3

You got it right. And how could you stop then? :O That first arrival in Tethe'alla leaves you with so much to do--like meeting Zelos and shopping for new stuff in Meltokio!

'SANEY!!! *Supertackleglomp*

That's better. :3

Originally Posted by Puck

Allow Puck to explain.

Puck goes to school, when he is not at school he is doing homework, when he is not doing homework he is sleeping(An invalid attempt to get ready for school the next day) when he is not sleeping he is working, and when he is not working he is trying to spend as much time with his niece as possible before she grows up. As one can easily see Puck has lots to do, seriously...his school is killing him...slowly...

also he's sick

Bleh.

(Edit: It should also be noted that Puck has been spending a good chunk of his free time reading)

*huggles*

I mish you, brothaluff. :O I think I still owe you a post in our Derrik/Tracey RP, don't I? I'll get to that soon.

Originally Posted by Altamira

Yah--and I love when they make references to previous games too. Even if they're only passing mentions. Tales games do a great job of putting in little shout-outs like that. <3

You got it right. And how could you stop then? :O That first arrival in Tethe'alla leaves you with so much to do--like meeting Zelos and shopping for new stuff in Meltokio!

Yeah. Also, don't forget the skits. *Still laughs at Kendama Compitition and Mithos and Kendama*

'It's heading right for... Zelos' ... head' ... 'Ow! Who's throwing Kendamas at me!? ;_;'

Well, this is like my, what, eighth playthrough? I'm pondering on playing Mania Mode for all of the next one, and maybe towards the end of this one. *Shrugs*

Originally Posted by Ciroton

Yeah. Also, don't forget the skits. *Still laughs at Kendama Compitition and Mithos and Kendama*

'It's heading right for... Zelos' ... head' ... 'Ow! Who's throwing Kendamas at me!? ;_;'

Well, this is like my, what, eighth playthrough? I'm pondering on playing Mania Mode for all of the next one, and maybe towards the end of this one. *Shrugs*

Ohhhh, don't get me started on skits. XD Most Zelos skits were priceless. I luffed going to the Katz Village in Sylvarant and playing through some of the best ones.

And doitdoitdoit! Mania mode is insane, but fun. Try fighting Abyssion on Mania especially--and don't use an All-Divide or have that 10X EXP thing you can buy with your GRADE at the start.

Originally posted by insaney
Hello, my lovelies x3 *snuggles the BA*

I missed yew all <3

WOLFIE IS PSYCHIC :O

*Falling glomple*

Originally posted by his Quarkyness
I concur. Sometimes when I'm RPing with a power player, I feel like they're just totally graping me. xP When you're not power playing, it makes it a much more entertaining experience for both writers. That way, as in real life, you're not entirely sure what the other character is going to do.

Say I'm fighting someone, and he posts:

"Rain Crow stood his ground as Styx, his arch nemesis, suddenly charged in his direction. Taloned claw extended to strike, Rain prepared for impact. Styx foolishly continued his dash, right into Rain's defensive attack. Rain's nail pierced the behomoth's chest, heaving him to the side, and throwing him against the far wall."

Then I have to respond to that, giving a valid reason why Styx would just run into a blatantly obvious attack like that. Usually it's something lame like:

"Styx knew his attack would fail, he was just testing his foe. He wanted to know his opponent's strength, and now he knew."

Blargh, it sickens me to have to use such cliches. Not only am I partially offended that my opponent took advantage of my character like that, but he did it without my consent. This results in a small amount of resentment that discourages me from working on my next post, and his actions also possibly ruined what I had planned for my next post.

I disagree!

Well... sorta. I know what you mean completely, as its happened to me before and its lame. But! In most cases I look forward to people power playing with my characters to see what they can do with them. Take mine and Wisps RP for example. It wouldn’t be half as awesome if we didn’t have a little bit of shared control over our characters. Like so:

Originally posted by Wisp
Wisp was a little surprised by what Akira had said, but she answered anyway, “You found it, so why not?” She turned her attention to one of the cabinets in the room, or armory, based on the weapons lining the wall and headed towards them. The novice air and shadow user stopped in her tracks as Akira squealed with glee. “You could get us killed by doing that, you know?”

“Oh… Sorry…” Her rabbit ears picked up her squealing again, but it was fainter this time.

Originally Posted by I)ragon11

*Falling glomple*


I disagree!

Well... sorta. I know what you mean completely, as its happened to me before and its lame. But! In most cases I look forward to people power playing with my characters to see what they can do with them. Take mine and Wisps RP for example. It wouldn’t be half as awesome if we didn’t have a little bit of shared control over our characters. Like so:

Yeah, but what if that wasn't what you had planned? What if it was going to be something like this:

Wisp was a little surprised by what Akira had said, but she answered anyway, “You found it, so why not?” She turned her attention to one of the cabinets in the room, or armory, based on the weapons lining the wall and headed towards them. The novice air and shadow user stopped in her tracks as Akira squealed with glee. “You could get us killed by doing that, you know?”

“I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddlin' kids!” She babbled, shaking an angry fist.

However, because of power playing, the way you perceive your character is totally thrown off balance and you have to find a way to work around it. :/ Maybe it's better if the person knows your character quite well, but even then they're not thinking the same things you're thinking. They can't get inside your character's head the same way you do, thus your character ends up acting out-of-character.

For instance... I would never trust someone to make Sin speak, if he were still an active character of mine. He's evil, yes, but he's a very specific kind of evil. He's not going to laugh maniacally and reveal his diabolical plot. No, he's going to deceive you; poke and prod his spikes into your mind with his trickery. If someone tried to make him speak, I'd shake my head in shame.

For a character like Tree Shade, it'd be a disaster. Since not everything is completely revealed about him, they don't know what he's going through. Heck, his intentions aren't even clear. He's so sporadic and unpredictable that only I can determine what he'd say in certain situations. Try as you might, it'd probably end up being out-of-character. Sorry if I sound selfish, but my characters are mine. I don't want anyone else using them. :|

Power playing is something you can't avoid, people will do it no matter what, sometimes without even realizing they are doing it. The best thing to do is suck it up and go with the flow, that's the point of RPing in the first place aint it?

Originally Posted by Altamira

Ohhhh, don't get me started on skits. XD Most Zelos skits were priceless. I luffed going to the Katz Village in Sylvarant and playing through some of the best ones.

And doitdoitdoit! Mania mode is insane, but fun. Try fighting Abyssion on Mania especially--and don't use an All-Divide or have that 10X EXP thing you can buy with your GRADE at the start.

I know! Zelos is so abused, I genuinly wasn't suprised when the party discovered he'd been spying on them for BOTH Cruxis and the Renegades.

IwillIwillIwill! ... x_x Now that's just crazy. Maybe.

Originally Posted by Puck

Power playing is something you can't avoid, people will do it no matter what, sometimes without even realizing they are doing it.

For someone who's used to power playing, yes they're bound to power play without noticing it. But stuff like, "Bob punches Billy in the face" is pure power playing that can easily be avoided with something more like, "Bob cranes his arm back, poised to punch Billy in the face." Then Billy writes his part, deciding whether the attack lands or misses.

When I write and someone power plays, I'm forced to power play a little back. When I write and my character gets hit without my consent, I hit their character back twice as hard. It's just my little way at subtle vengeance, which I could do without.

Originally Posted by Puck

The best thing to do is suck it up and go with the flow, that's the point of RPing in the first place aint it?

I was unaware of this. I thought the whole point was to create stories and adventures, intertwine our characters together in coherent confrontations and journeys.

That's actually the main part of RPing that I find stressful and irritating. It's having to fix the other writer's mistakes while they should only be focused on their own work.

Why do they need your consent to hit your characters? I have never understood this perspective, if RPing is not about inning or losing why does it matter if your character takes a shot or two on the chin? I can understand if they make the character do something unatural, but not allowing them to get hit at all? What i stopping you fro m making your character invincible? it just seems so silly to me to follow such rules when RPing is not about winning or losing.

I guess Puck is different in that respect, he has never cared whiether his character won, lost, get stabbed, or beat down. It's about the story after all, so why worry over such trivial things. Often Puck will pourposely make his chatracter take massive damange while applying very little to his opponent because he sees how self centered BAers seem to be about their characters. It's sort of ridiculous when Puck looks at it, personally I have never found such trifiling details meaningful in rping, only the story, the emotions the character, not the outcome. The sort of logic where you can't have your own character take any damange is silly, and Puck sees no reason why such things should even be a problem. Characterization mishapes is a problem, having your character get hit? No problem.

In puck's mind anyway, everyone else needs to join in =3

Originally Posted by Puck

Why do they need your consent to hit your characters? I have never understood this perspective, if RPing is not about inning or losing why does it matter if your character takes a shot or two on the chin? I can understand if they make the character do something unatural, but not allowing them to get hit at all? What i stopping you fro m making your character invincible? it just seems so silly to me to follow such rules when RPing is not about winning or losing.

Dude, the whole aspect of "Winning or Losing" in an RP is why power playing shouldn't be used at all. It's the whole point I've been trying to make (or at least part of it). I fear I'll have to break this down even further. *sigh*

Alright, so when power playing it's so easy to beat down your enemy whichever way you like it, right? You just write, "Styx kills Kenjin" and all is fine and dandy (this is to the extreme, mind you). That right there is why power playing is dangerous.

However, if someone's just as intent on winning when there's a "no power playing" rule, then it's more difficult. It'd be, "Styx heaves an uppercut toward his enemy's stomach" (more or less) it gives his opponent time to react. Depending on that character's skill the response would be pending. Since Kenjin is invincible, the response could be something like, "Styx's fist bounces off Kenjin's stomach."

You see what I'm saying? The "victory obsessed" can still win if they want, but they actually have to try to do so. There's no "beat-the-pulp-out-of-people" anymore because the person they're fighting could very well be working toward the same goal.

It actually opens people's eyes up to the fact that it ISN'T all about winning.

That logic seems backwards...if someone is obsessed with winning don't RP with them. You confuse puck.

Originally Posted by Puck

That logic seems backwards...if someone is obsessed with winning don't RP with them. You confuse puck.

Blargh! Puck misses the point! I'm taking this all to the extreme here, seeing how that's how you were taking it. xP

Blatant actions of another player, such as dialog, attacks, dodges, reactions... those things are big no-nos.

Minor stuff like moving from place to place (assuming the action was already implied, as in, they're walking somewhere), that's okay.

Taking hits, specifically, should not be assumed. However, it is expected that roleplayers will consider what is logical in reactions, and not simply always dodge.

That's called "god-moding," and is universally frowned upon.

Originally Posted by Scott

Blatant actions of another player, such as dialog, attacks, dodges, reactions... those things are big no-nos.

Minor stuff like moving from place to place (assuming the action was already implied, as in, they're walking somewhere), that's okay.

Well, yeah, of course.

Though I admit it'd be funny to do an RP where you couldn't even do that.... Like the other character would have to freeze in place while the other one did something.

Blatant actions of another player, such as dialog, attacks, dodges, reactions... those things are big no-nos.

Maybe that's why puck hasn't been around, cause **** like this makes RPing boring,

However, because of power playing, the way you perceive your character is totally thrown off balance and you have to find a way to work around it. :/ Maybe it's better if the person knows your character quite well, but even then they're not thinking the same things you're thinking. They can't get inside your character's head the same way you do, thus your character ends up acting out-of-character.

For instance... I would never trust someone to make Sin speak, if he were still an active character of mine. He's evil, yes, but he's a very specific kind of evil. He's not going to laugh maniacally and reveal his diabolical plot. No, he's going to deceive you; poke and prod his spikes into your mind with his trickery. If someone tried to make him speak, I'd shake my head in shame.

For a character like Tree Shade, it'd be a disaster. Since not everything is completely revealed about him, they don't know what he's going through. Heck, his intentions aren't even clear. He's so sporadic and unpredictable that only I can determine what he'd say in certain situations. Try as you might, it'd probably end up being out-of-character. Sorry if I sound selfish, but my characters are mine. I don't want anyone else using them. :|

Yep, I understand what your saying. I don’t really disagree with the way you do things, but I still like power playing under certain circumstances. Personally, I think being able to power play correctly is a crucial skill that all RPers should have and should work on if they suck at it. I like being able to see if my characters are real and understandable enough to be used by someone else correctly.

Of course, there are some BArs that I would rather not powerplay my characters, and I’m pretty sure Akira is one of the easiest characters to control ever.

No, it's **** like that that makes RPing interesting. Otherwise, why bother RPing at all? Just go write a story on your own.

Originally Posted by Puck

Maybe that's why puck hasn't been around, cause **** like this makes RPing boring,

Well in the immortal words of Ben Turpin, "The minority must always suffer..."

If you think writing without respect for another person's character is boring, then it is now Quark who is confused... and also presently speaking in third person.