Harry Potter RP Discussion

Yeah sure, I'm talking with her right now so I'll just give her the heads up.

We really are super dramatic First Years, aren't we?

I blame the drugs.

Yeah, even Shaun's joining in. And he just called Lori a coward. I really don't think this will go over well.

Something needs to happen to bring us back together!

Well Matt needs to make up with Audrey first. Then if Audrey forgives him, Lori will too.

Cassandra didn't like Matt to begin with, but since he is suicidal right now, she'll feel bad for him. She's siding with Lori right now. But she is going to help Lori help Matt. Reluctantly.

Lori as far as things go right now is still solid with Al. So they are fine.

And Lori will always be kind towards Shaun. She does like him. If she is willing to protect him after calling her a coward, she will be willing to patch things up.

Lori really is a nice person and all things considering, very forgiving. She just has some issues.

I don't think there is a single character in this RP who doesn't have issues.

Lori, admittedly, has it worse than most of the others.

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Wait a minute...why didn't Cassandra see the incident in the forest coming?

I CALL SHENANAGINS.

Lori's issues really are more psychological then anything. And they are really complex.

1) She almost got killed as a child, leaving her to have seriously psychological issues about not being able to protect herself, let alone others. She constantly wants to prove herself able to defend those who she cares about, and then some. She literally wants to be the super hero. However, she feels inadequate when things like the forest happens because all she'll do is remember that day. <Huge part of her personality.
2) She is in her brother's shadow. So she is constantly trying to prove herself.
3) She's an idiot.
4) She won't start fights. But God she will end them.
5) She's very protective of people she likes.
6) She's already been established as a problem child in muggle schools.

Because I want to join in on this.

ALBERT'S PROBLEMS:

1) Crippeling fear of death and bad luck. Comes and goes in moods, but still an overall issue of his mindset. He's probably going to flip out a bit when he finds out about Matt's suicidal thoughts.
2) Raised in a split society, with half of his entire upbringing saying he's better than everyone else and shouldn't associate with Shaun and Lori, and the other half saying that he should.
3) An incident involving Amycus Carrow.
4) The fact that he lives with a complete monster.

Wait, I understand Shaun, but why Lori? If we're going for racist reasons, Lori is a half-blood.

Shaun doesn't want Lori's protection. He hates the way she treats others and I don't see them patching things up in the foreseeable future unless Lori apologizes which she won't do. Shaun won't either.

SHAUN'S PROBLEMS:
1) He feels like everyone is always trying to protect him and he's sort of everyone's little brother.
2) He resents some people who have grown up around magic.
3) He feels like a failure as a wizard.
4) He hates people who don't have to work for anything. That's partly why he has beef with Lori. She came into Hogwarts and instantly owned the place.
Most of Hufflepuff still has yet to acknowledge his existence.

Originally Posted by Princess Luna

Wait, I understand Shaun, but why Lori? If we're going for racist reasons, Lori is a half-blood.

Yeah, but one must remember, to a pure-blooded bigot half-bloods are "impure combinations of wizard and muggle blood."

Also, my RL feelings about the current events are thus:

No one is in the right here. Matt shouldn't have thrown a curse without knowing what he was throwing it at, Lori shouldn't have beat up Matt without knowing the entire story, and Shaun shouldn't blame Lori for something she can't really help. I'm like Albert here; he should have been there, because things might have turned out for the better.

No, I still think Shaun's in the right. She can definitely help it if she beats the tar out of someone else.

But Lori really doesn't treat people badly. I mean honestly the only person that can be argued for is Matt, and she just acts the way she does because he starts it. If you recall, when they had stopped fighting for a bit, Lori was very nice to him even though she didn't really trust him. She really has been nothing but nice to people.

And Lori wanting to protect people is easily her biggest character flaw. She doesn't mean anything mean by it, she literally just wants to protect people. Like I said earlier, she wants to be the knight in shining armor. She got told too many stories of heroes as a kid, and since she is an idiot, she up and decided she wanted to be one.

Lori is one of those typical likeable people. And it helped that her brother was insanely popular when he was around, so a lot of people are expecting her to be like her brother. Which is going to be a problem for her in the future. And she isn't going around parading like she owns the place. She just wants to get along with people and the easiest way to do that is with a smile.

Also, not everyone likes her. She still has a lot of people who are mad at her for being partly responsible for blowing up the Potions lab.

It's an inadvertent character trait she has. You either really like her or you hate her.

I'm the same way feelings in RL with Sam. I'm also sad that Shaun didn't really care Audrey got hurt

Edit: At the moment, no she can't without someone physically stopping her. The incident at the forest she was in the wrong state of mind at the moment. If she wasn't thinking about that day six years ago, she would have punched Matt once and been done.

She'll honestly get better as she grows older. Part of growing up.

Shaun did care. It's just he never really got a chance to show that.

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And Lori said somereally mean and spiteful things to Shaun (though to be fair that went both ways).

Well, I do admit she should be able to control if she beats the tar out of someone. Whether she can or not is a completely different story.

Shaun is in the right partially, but he isn't dealing with it in the best way possible.

No he's not. A lot of it also has to do with him disliking Lori for other reasons.

1) She wouldn't argue with him. She basically just said "I'm right, you're wrong" then left before Shaun could protest.
2) Everyone in Gryffindor loves her and everything comes easy for her (I'm not saying that's the way it is. That's just the way Shaun sees it.)
3) She treats Shaun like an eight year old.

This will be what Al will be forced to do eventaully.

She should yes. But at the moment, she can't. Typically she could do a better job of it, but the state of mind she was in was back at her house when she was six about to be killed. Except Audrey was her and Matt was the crackhead who broke into her house. So you'll have to understand she just kind of lost it.

As she grows older, she'll be able to. By the time she's an adult, she'll be a functioning member of society

Originally Posted by Princess Luna

ooc: Lori wasn't going to sit there and argue the same moot point over and over because she was showing signs of snapping. If it had continued, it might have gotten ugly. Lori doesn't start fights, but she knew she would say something she would regret if she stood there any longer.

So walking away then was an act of bravery in its own way.

And Lori wasn't sorry, you're right. She saw herself protecting Audrey, you have to realize that. You need to understand that this event had a serious impact on her psyche. It defines her whole person. But she recognizes what she did was wrong, so she has been trying to make up for it in her own way.

Also, it has been hinted in the RP several times earlier, but I'll come out and say it because I'm not sure if you get it. Lori has a serious issue of restraint. She doesn't know when to hold back. Lori has scars all over her body because of this. All before she came to Hogwarts. She is a problem child through and through, but she isn't a bad person. If the troll incident didn't happen, she wouldn't have acted the way she did. But she was reeling in shock because she recognized that without Matt's help she wouldn't have been able to do anything. And that thought scared her. She's an honest straight forward idiot who feels like she has something to prove.

Her and Matt are extremely similar in that way.

I don't think Shaun is in the right. But I don't think Lori is in the right either. Neither is Matt. Nobody is "in the right." I'm kind of upset right now with Shaun because I feel like he doesn't listen at all to what Lori is saying.

Just because Lori has an issue of not holding back doesn't mean she can just treat people however she wants. For example, I can't go kill someone then say "Oh it's okay. I have a serious issue about killing people."

Shaun has always been sort of bothered by the way Lori treats Matt, but he's never spoken up because it hasn't ever been that big of a deal. Then when Lori goes andbeats the crap out of Matt for an accident, he's gonna be a little pissed off.

Lori may not start fights, but she retaliates disproportionately. Also, you keep saying Lori knows what she did was wrong, but she has yet to show even a hint of remorse.

1) No, she said "you're not looking at it from my point of view."

"Look, I wasn't saying what I did was honorable. But I didn't think it was disgraceful either,

-Admitting that Shaun had a point, but telling him she didn't see it the same way.

Just to let you know this world isn't pained in black and white Shaun. It's varying shades of grey. Remember that.

- Lori telling Shaun things aren't as simple as they appear. She isn't saying "you're wrong." She's saying that there is more that meets the eyes.

2) She just feels the need to protect him like everyone else. Also, the only people she stepped in the ring for so far are Cassandra, Al and Audrey. She doesn't treat him like an 8-year-old though. She doesn't belittle him, or talk down to him. Remember, she said he would make a great Quidditch player? She was honestly impressed with his talents. And if she treated him like an 8-year-old, she wouldn't leave him in charge of the Quidditch lesson.