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I'm not taking this at school because they don't offer it at mine, but I still want to learn teh language. I tried reading simple lessons plans on it but they were too confusing. Anyways, if someone has the time or know someone who has the time to teach me the basics, I would be very much grateful to that or those person(s). Thanks!
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Wouldn't it be kinda difficult to learn a language over a bunch of forums? You need to actually hear the person say the words to learn it. I could tell you some words, like 'hello' and 'good-bye': konnichiwa (sp? I'd check but my dictionary is upstairs: lazy right now) and sayonara. I know a bunch of vocab, if you wanna know more just PM me or something. I can't do sentences though (I can do ____ of ____ , like "nozomi no daiya" means "diamond of hope", that's it).
This is a page I found on an anime site, read it if you want the basics: http://www.pojo.com/dragonball/japaneselessons1.shtml
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Ive already taken Japaneese 1 at my school. im goin gto take Japaneese two next year. Ill scan some some begiinwers stuff once im able to. Ill scan you all the beginner hiragana stuff.
Ill post some basic words right now こんにちは Konnichiwa= Hello well im kinda rusty..eeek i better freshen up over the summer
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I found this:
http://www.japanese.about.com That should help. EDIT: Oh, yeah Gerudo Kitten posted this some time ago. Should help. Basic Japanese Hello, Good Afternoon-Konnichiwa Good Night- Konbawa (As you can imagine, 'A's are pronounced as a Short 'A' Thanks- Doumo Thanks alot- Doumo Arigatou (Or, if your going extremely polite- Doumo Arigatou Gozaimasu, don't forget, in Japanese, if a U is after a S, its silent, yet form your mouth if you were to say 'u'.) Goodbye-Sayounara See you later- Dewa mata Pronouns (Dai-meshi) I- Watakushi/Watashi I (used by boy student)- Boku We- Wataku****achi/Wata****achi You- Anata You (Pl.) Anatatachi/Anatagata You (For less than a colleague)- Kimi You(Pl.)-Kimitachi She-Kanojo They (Pl. of she)- Kanojora He- Kare (Keep in mind that in Japanese, E is pronounced as a Long A. They (Pl. of He)- Karara It- Sore Those- Sorera This- Kore These- Korera That- Are Those (Pl. of that)- Arera Self Introduction How do you do- Hajimema****e Nice to meet you- O-ai deki-te ureshii desu Let me introduce myself- Jiko-shoukai sase-te kudasai My name is...- Watashi no namae wa ... desu Please call me...- .... to yon-de kudasai I am ... years old- Watashi wa ...... sai desu ( I'll get to the numbers soon) I have 4 members in my family- Watashi wa yo-nin kazoku desu I'm from ...- Watashi wa ..... shusshin desu I live in ...- Watashi wa ... ni sun-de i masu My hobby is ....- Watashi no shumi wa ... desu Questions for Conversing May I ask your name- O-namae wo kiite-mo iidesu-ka What is your name- O-namae wa nan-desu-ka How do you write your name- O namae wo oshie-te kudasai How old are you- Nan-sai desu-ka Where do you go to school- Doko no gakkou-ni itte imasu-ka What do you do- O-shigoto wa nan-desu-ka Where are you from- Shusshin wa doko-desu-ka Do you speak English- Eigo wo hanashi-masu-ka What is your hobby-Shumi wa nan-desuka Do you like ....- .... wa suki desu-ka I don't speak Japanese well Pardon- Nan desu ka/ Nan to ii ma****a-ka I don't understand- Wakarimasen Could you speak more slowly- Motto yukkuri hana****e-kure-masuka Once more again- Mou ichido onegai-shimasu Could you please say that in simpler language- Motto yasashii kotoba de itte-kure-masuka Please say it in English- Eigo-de itte-kudasai (More, but too lazy to type all of em) Numbers (Kazu) Sorry I Only know limted numbers. I'm still learning too. 1- Ichi 2- Ni 3-San 4-Shi 5-Go 6-Roku 7-Sichi 8-Hachi 9-Ku 10-Ju 100-Hyaku 1,000-Sen 10,000-Man 100 Million-Oku Trillion/Billion- Chou. Oh and all curse word filters cover s*it. I forgot about about that.
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Thanks for your help guys, everything is helping me to learn, except the only troubling part now is remembering all the characters, but I shoud be fine. Again, thaks fo ryour help!
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2-ni 3-san 4-si/yon 5-go 6-roku 7-nana/siti 8-hati 9-ku/kyuu 10-zyuu doru-dollar sento-cents en-yen nan-how many 20-nizyuu 30-sanzyuu 40-sizyuu/yonzyuu 50-gozyuu 60-rokuzyuu 70-nanazyuu/sitizyuu 80-hatizyuu 90-kuzyuu/kyuuzyuu 100-hyaku 200-nihyaku 300-sanbyaku 400-yonhyaku 500-gohyaku 600-roppyaku 700-nanahyaku 800-happyaku 900-kyuuhyaku 1000-sen/issen 2000-nisen 3000-sanzen 4000-yonsen 5000-gosen 6000-rokusen 7000-nanasen 8000-hassen 9000-kyuusen #-ban I'm not disagreeing with you on the numbers...Wolf... I'm just going by what is on my japanese textbook...
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I know simple words
Dozo- here you are aragato-thanks sayanora-goodbye yeah, see simple. My friend and I are trying to learn, it's not the easiest language in the world if you get what I mean.
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A friend of mine and I are learning little bits of Japanese at a time, because we can't take Japanese until college over here.
![]() Pronunciation: You pronouce all the vowels. Japanese people also have an accent that makes the "r" sound like "L". For emaple: The name "Kirara" sounds like "Kee-la-la." I am a girl. Watashi wa shoujo des. I think Japanese is in a Subject-Object-Verb order, compared to the Subject-Verb-Object order in English. And now some random words: Watashi no mono: Mine samui:cold itami: pain hora: hey desuru: Hatred Watashi ha anata ga suki: I like it Watashi ha sore ga kirai: I don't like it Anata wa: you suki: like inu: dog ko: child koinu: puppy (literally "dog child") neko: cat kistune: fox akuma: evil spirit baka: fool osuwari:sit okami: wolf shi: death shi ni: death to; die kastuga: win ningen: human keitai: cell phone kudarai: ridiculous Jan-Ken-Pon: Rock-Paper-Scissors na: vegetable yuki: snow kanpai:cheers namida: tear kanpai: cheers toboe: howling hige: whisker tsume: claw kiba: fang tanuki: raccoon kiseki: miracle That's all I've got at the moment. I also know an impressive array of Japanese curse words and insults and such, but I don't think the mods would appreciate me posting it here.
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I hope this helps some:
Tora- tiger Neko- cat Nekomimi- kitty ears Koneko- kitten Nyan-nyan- kitty Nyako- kitty Nyaa- meow Ame- rain Yuki- snow Sabishii- Alone, lonely Itai- Painful Youkoso- Welcome! Mochiron- indeed, of course Yaro- bastard Muko- damn you! Yareyare- Oh my goodness Sugoi- Wow/amazing/awesome/terrible Ao(i)- blue Kon- Dark blue/ navy blue Chotto...- A little (inconvenint). Nice way to say no. Fuyu- Winter Sukoshizutsu tabemasu- nibble (literally, to eat little by little) Anou…- um… Ne?- Right? Ya know? Isn’t it? Bijin- Beautiful women Chikan- Pervert Oshiri- Tus Ganbatte!- Go for it!/ hang in there Mo ichido onegaishimasu- one more please Konichiwa- hello/ good afternoon shishou - martial arts master. ohisashiburi - long time no see! okaeri - welcome home. gomen - sorry! itadakimasu - thanks for the food. shihan - another word for master or instructor. sensei - teacher or instructor. -chan - some little kid or child. deer senbei - biscuits of deer. takoyaki - dumplings made w/ bits of octopus meat. oba-san - aunt, young women. baka - idiot. shishou - martial arts teacher ohisashiburi - long time no see okaeri - welcome home itadakaimasu - thanks for the food shihan - word for master or instructor sensei - teacher or instructor -chan - child/friend -kun - teenager, young adult -san - adult -sama - master -dono - used in the era of samurai. never use it to address a client or superior. very formal to address one's master. stick to -sama. gan - face guro - black ganguro - black face kono mushikera me! - you insect! shi-tappa - henchmen kono san-****a - you third rate hack burei-mono - insolent fool sasuga ni - your skill is as expected ta-su-ke-te! - HELP ME! gomenasai! - I’m so sorry! otaku - anime/manga fan manga-ka - person who creates manga yume - dream moshi wake arimasen - i have no excuse for my self warui! - my bad! nihongo - Japanese in Japanese kono akutou me! - you villain! ore ni nakasero - leave it to me soko made me! - this is as far as you go! kono kari wazettai ni kaesu - I swear I’ll return this favor kondo wa zettai ni makenai! - this time, i'm not going to lose zettai ni makenai - i'm not going to lose aku wa horobu - evil will always perish taberuzo! nomunzo! - i'm going to eat! i'm going to drink o-sho-yu - soy sauce so-su - sauce shio - salt kosho - pepper sato - sugar ichigo - strawberri gochiso sama - i've had a feast, thank you waribashi/ohashi - chop sticks you break in half gohan kudasai - may i have a bowl of rice please okawari! - seconds please! ittai nan nanda, kono mushi wa!!! - there's a bug in my soup!!! either there really is a bug, or you put it there to avoid paying the bill geh! senkou da! - watch out! its the teacher! shi koku da! - i'm late! hai! - yes! iie! - no! shukada wa inu taberae ma****a - my dog ate my home work tetsuya ****eiranode, shinuhodo nemui... - i did an all nighter and i'm dead tired. sensei, kibun ga waru inode, hoken****su ni ittemo iidesukda? - teacher, i don't feel so well, could i go to see the school nurse? sensei, sono kotai, machigatte imasuyo - teacher that answer's wrong ote - shake neko-chan - kitty neko - cat wan-chan - doggy inu - dog kora! - hey! totte koi! - fetch! osuwari! - sit! esa wo yaru - give them their food neko nade goe - cat petting voice sampo no jikan - time for a walk [fido], tasuke wo tsurete koi! - fido, go get help! baka wa kaze wo hikanai - idiots can't catch colds yuki-daruma tsukurou! - let's make a snow man! oooh, samui! - oooh, it's cold (cold) furueru hodo samui - i'm so cold i'm shivering (colder) shinu hodo samui - it's deathly cold (coldest) sabu - cold (slang) yuki-gassen da! - it's a snow ball fight! nanika atatakai mono tabeyou - lets eat something warm onna- a woman or female musume- a girl, daughter me- female, weak migite- right hand migichu- left hand onnaoya- a mother gin- silver gin'iro- silver color -iro- color mikazuki- crescent moon chojo- the eldest daughter nakanaka- very quiet kin'iro; kojiki- golden color joshu- a female; woman kodomo- a child yako- going by night kon'ya- tonight anki- learning by heart youke- dawn jame- heavy rain makkura- pitch black harusume- spring rain shonen- lad; youth; young boy kakudo- angle shojo- little girl yuki- snow hatsuyuki- the first snow of the season fubuki- snowstorm kumo- cloud kuro-- black; dark yukiguni- snowy country shirakumo; hakaun- white clouds aozora- blue sky an'un- dark clouds sekimen- to blush makkuro- jet black kikyo- returning to the capital; bellflower makka- deep red chichi- father nashi- a master; owner jikkei- a real elder brother kyodai- brother deshi- a pupil; disciple; apprentice montei- a student; dsciple kokoro- the heart; mind shujin; aruji- the master; owner shufu- the mistress of a house nipponto- Japanese sword (also known as a katana) monka- a pupil; disciple token- swords hoseki- a jewel; precious stone kire- kill
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Concentrate on learning the hiragana and katakana before moving onto stuff like Grammer and Kanji. Its like in english, where would you be without the alphabet?
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All you guys are lucky who are taking it in high school! Neither of the two high schools I went to offered it! And I got shut out of it last year! Next year I FINALLY get to take it though, so I'm really looking forward to it.
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The Quick and Dirty Guide to Japanese This is the best, especially because it provides simply, easy explanation and usage of conjugation, as well as lots of different words. Sentence structure is usually: Subject-Object-Verb It can sometimes also be: Object-Subject-Verb Wa = Subject marker/tag Ga = Object marker/tag Wo (usually pronounced "o") = Direct Object marker/tag When writing "wa" as a Subject marker/tag, always use は ("ha") Hope this helps!
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There's more to learning a language than vocab, guys. Listing huge vocab lists does not help anyone learn a language if they cannot speak/write correctly and know the proper grammar. I can say Nihao Ma, but that doesn't mean I speak Chinese.
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So You Want To Learn Japanese.
You've eaten at a few Japanese restaurants, seen some anime, hosted an exchange student, and had a Japanese girlfriend. And now, somewhere in the back of your tiny brain, you think that Japanese would be a good language to learn. Hey, you could translate video games! Or Manga! Or even Anime! Pick up Japanese girls, impress your friends! Maybe you'll even go to Japan and become an anime artist! Yeah! Sounds like a great idea! So you head down to the library, pick up some books with titles like "How To Teach Yourself Japanes In Just 5 Seconds A Day While Driving Your Car To And From The Post Office" and "Japanese For Complete And Total, Utter Fools Who Should Never Procreate". Hey, you already know a few words from your manga collection/girlfriend/anime. Excited and impressed with your new knowledge, you begin to think: "Hey. Maybe, just maybe, i could do this for a living! Or even major in Japanese! Great Idea, Right? WRONG. I don't care how many anime tapes you've watched, how many Japanese girlfriends you've had, or books you've read, You don't know Japanese. Not only that, majoring in the godforsaken language is NOT fun or even remotely sensible. Iraqi war prisoners are often forced to major in Japanese. The term "Holocaust" comes from the Latin roots "Holi" and "Causm", meaning "to major in Japanese". You get the idea. And so, sick of seeing so many lambs run eagerly to the slaughter, I have created This Guide to REAL TIPS for Studying Japanese. Or, as is actually the case, NOT studying it. This should be an obvious. Despite what many language books, friends, or online tutorials may have told you, Japanese is NOT simple, easy, or even sensical (Japanese vocabulary is determined by throwing tiny pieces of sushi at a dart board with several random syllables attatched to it). TheJapanese spread these rumours to draw foolish Gaijin into their clutches. Not only is it not simple, it's probably one of the hardest language you could ever want to learn. With THREE completely different written languages (none of which make sense), multitude of useless, confusing politeness levels, and absolutely insane grammatical structure, Japanese has been crushing the souls of the pathetic Gaijin since it's conception. Let's go over some of these elements mentioned above so you can get a better idea of what I mean. The Japanese Writing System The Japanese writing system is broken down into three separate, complete, and insane, parts: Hiragana ("those squiggily letters"), Katakana ("those boxy letters") and Kanji ("roughly 4 million embodiments of your worst nightmares"). Hiragana is used to spell out Japanese words using syllables. It consist of many letters, all of which look completely different and bear absolutely no resemblance to each other whatsoever. Hiragana were devloped by having a bunch of completely blind, deaf, and dumb Japanese people scribble things on pieces of paper while having no idea why they were doing so. The resulting designs were then called "hiaragana". The prince who invented these characters, Yorimushi("stinking monkey-bush-donkey") was promptly bludgeoned to death. But don't worry, because you'll hardly use Hiragana in "real life". Katakana are used only to spell out foreign words in a thick, crippling japanese accent, so that you'll have no idea what you're saying even though it's in English. However, if you remember one simple rule for Katakana, you'll find reading Japanese much easier: Whenever something is written in Katakana, it's an English word! (note: Katakana is also used for non-english foreign words. And sound effects, and Japanese words). Katakana all look exactly the same, and it's impossible, even for Japanese people, to tell them apart. No need to worry, because you'll hardly ever have to read Katakana in "real life". Kanji are letters that were stolen from China. Every time the Japanese invaded China (which was very often) they'd just take a few more letters, so now they have an estimated 400 gazillion of them. Kanji each consist of several "strokes", which must be written in a specific order, and convey a specific meaning, like "horse", or "girl". Not only that, but Kanji can combined to form new words. For example, if you combine the Kanji for "small", and "woman", you get the word "carbeurator". Kanji also have different pronounciations depending on where they are in the word, how old you are, and what day it is. When European settlers first came upon Japan, the Japanese scholars suggested that Europse adopt the Japanese written language as a "universal" language understood by all parties. This was the cause of World War 2 several years later. Don't worry, however, since you'll never have to use kanji in "real life", since most Japanese gave up on reading a long, long time ago, and now spend most of their time playing Pokemon. Politeness Levels Politness Levels have their root in an ancient Japanese tradition of absolute obedience and conformity, a social caste system, and complete respect for arbitrary heirarchical authority, which many American companies believe will be very helpful when applied as magaerial techniques. They're right, of course, but no one is very happy about it. Depending on who you are speaking to your politeness level will be very different. Politeness depends on many things, such as age of the speaker, age of the person being spken to, time of day, zodiac sign, blood type, sex, whether they are Grass or Rock Pokemon type, color of pants, and so on. For an example of Politness Levels in action, see the example below. Japanese Teacher: Good morning, Harry. Harry: Good Morning. Japanese Classmates: (gasps of horror and shock) The bottom line is thatPoliteness Levels are completely beyond your understanding, so don't even try. Just resign yourself to talking like a little girl for the rest of your life and hope to God that no one beats you up. Grammatical Structure The Japanese have what could be called an "interesting" grammatical structure, but could also be called "confusing", "random", "bogus" or "evil". To truly understand this, let's examine the differences between Japanese and English grammar. English Sentence: Jane went to the school. Same Sentence In Japanese: School Jane To Went Monkey Apple Carbeurator. Japanese grammer is not for the faint of heart or weak of mind. What's more, the Japanese also do not have any words for "me", "them", "him, or "her" that anyone could use without being incredibly insulting (the Japanese word for "you", for example, when written in kanji, translates to"I hope a monkey scratches your face off"). Because of this, the sentence "He just killed her!" and "I just killed her!" sound exactly the same, meaning that most people in Japan have no idea what is going on around them at any given moment. You are supposed to figure these things out from the "context", which is a German word meaning "you're screwed". When mostAmericans think of Japanese people, they think: polite, respectful, accomadating. (They could also possibly think: Chinese). However, it is important to learn where the truth ends and our Western stereotyping begins. Of course, it would be irresponsible of me to make any sweeping generalizations about such alarge group of people, but ALL Japanese people have three characteristics: they "speak" English, they dress very nicely, and they're short. The Japanese school system is controlled by Japan's central government, which, of course, is not biased in any way (recent Japanese history textbook title: "White Demons Attempt To Take Aaway our Holy Motherland, But Great And Powerful Father-Emperor Deflects Them With Winds From God: The Story Of WW2"). Because of this, all Japanese have been taught the same English-language course, which consists of reading The Canterbury Tales, watching several episodes of M*A*S*H, and reading the English dictionary from cover to cover. Armed with this extensive language knowledge, the children of Japan emerge from school ready to take part in international business and affairs, uttering such remarkable and memorable sentences as "You have no chance to survive make your time", and adding to their own products by inscribing english slogans, such as "Just give this a Paul. It may be the Paul of your life" on the side of a slot machine. Secondly, all Japanese people dress extremely well. This fits in with the larger Japanese attitude of neatness and order. Everything has to be in it's correct place with the Japanese, or a small section in the right lobe of their brain begins to have seizures and they exhibit erratic violent behavior until the messiness is eradicated. The Japanese even FOLD THEIR DIRTY CLOTHES. Sloppiness is not tolerated in Japanese society, and someone with a small wrinkle in their shirt, which they thought they could hide by wearing a hooded sweatshirt over it (possibly emblazoned with a catchy english phrase like "Spread Beaver, Violence Jack-Off!"), will be promptly beaten to death with tiny cellular phones. Lastly, the Japanese are all short. Really, really short. It's kind of funny. Not ones to leave being tall to the Europeans or Africans, however, the Japanese have singlehandedly brought shoes with incredibly gigantic soles into style, so that they can finally appear to be of actual human height, when in reality their height suggests that they may indeed be closer in relation to the race of dwarves or Hobbits. Japanese culture is also very "interesting", by which we mean "confusing" and in several cases "dangerous". Their culture is based on the concept of "In Group/Out Group", in which all Japanese people are one big "In" group, and YOU are the "Out" group. Besides this sense of alienation, Japan also produces cartoons, and a wide variety of other consumer products which are crammed into your face 24 hours a day, seven days a week. The Japanese also like cock fighting monsters that live in your pants, taking baths with the elderly, and killing themselves. Japanese food is what some people would call "exotic", but what most people call "disgusting", or perhaps, in some areas, "whack". Japanese food evolved in ancient days, when the main staple of the diet was rice. People got so sick and tired of eating rice, in fact, that they ate just about anything else they could find, from seaweed to other Japanese people. This has led to the creation of such wonderful foods as "Natto", which I believe is a kind of bean but tastes like battery acid, and "Pocky", which is a stick with different frostings on it, the flavors of which include Sawdust and Strawberry. Despite this variety of foods, however, the Japanese have succeeded in making every single thing they eat, from tea to plums, taste like smokey beef. As if learning the language wasn't hard enough, Japanese classes in America tend to attract the kind of student who makes you wish that a large comet would strike the earth. There are a few basic type of students that you'll always find yourself running into. These include The Anime Freak, The Know It All, and the Deer Caught In Headlights. The Anime Freak is probably the most common, and one of the most annoying. You can usually spot a few warning signs to let you identify them before it's too late: they wear the same exact Evangelion shirt every day, they have more than one anime key chain on their person, they wear glasses, they say phrases in Japanese that hey obviously don't understand (such as "Yes! I will never forgive you!"), they refer to you as "-chan", make obscure Japanese culture references during class, and usually fail class. You have to be extremely careful not to let them smell pity or fear on you, because if they do they will immeadiately latch onto you and suck up both your time and patience, leaving only a lifeless husk. Desperate for human companionship, they will invite you to club meetings, anime showings, conventions, and all other sorts of various things you don't care about. The Know It All typically has a Japanese girlfriend or boyfriend, and because of this "inside source" on Japanese culture, has suddenly become an academic expert on all things Japanese, without ever having read a single book on japan in their entire lives. You can usually spot Know It All's by keeping an eye out for these warning signs: a cocky smile, answering more than their share of questions, getting most questions wrong, questioning the teacher on various subjects and then arguing about the answers (a typical exchange: Student: What does "ohayoo" mean?,Teacher: It means "good morning", Student: That's not what my girlfriend said...), being wrong, talking alot about Japanese food and being wrong, giving long, unnecessarily detailed answers which are wrong, and failing class. The Deer Caught In headlights are those students who took Japanese because either a.) they thought it sounded like fun, b.) they thought it would be easy, or c.) they just need a couple more credits to graduate. These students wear a mask of terror and panic form the moment they walk into class till the moment they leave, because all they can hear inside their head is the high pitched scream their future is making as it is flushed down the toilet. They are usually failing. Although many of Japanese-language students are smart, funny, hard working people, none of them will be in your class. If you can get past the difficulty, society, and classmates, you will probably find Japanese to be a fun, rewarding language to learn. We wouldn't know, however, since no one has ever gotten that far. But hey, I'm sure You're different. Author's Note:This whole essay, although sprinkled with truisms here and there, is a joke and should be taken like one. I'm actually a Japanese major myself, and even if I've given it a bit of a hard time, I love the Japanese language, and I think everyone should give it a try. You should just be ready for a whole lot of pain. HAPPY LANGUAGE LEARNING! Here are some of my links that I use: http://www.thejapanesepage.com/howtowow/index.php http://members.aol.com/writejapan/ http://www.jfet.org.uk/FS1.html http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~jwb/japanese.html http://genki.yousei-ziploc.com/ ..oh, and I agree with Eijiro - definately learn kana first.
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