Lost: Season Four

Yes! Right behind Jin!

Originally Posted by Slime

Yes! Right behind Jin!

LOL! Nice
I didn't notice that... That episode was a little depressing, they tricked us!!
Grr, but atleast Sun had her baby

Originally Posted by AMP1317

LOL! Nice
I didn't notice that... That episode was a little depressing, they tricked us!!
Grr, but atleast Sun had her baby

Yes it was a little misleading, but we didn't really get any true answers (which is typical for LOST). However, it was the first time they used a flashback and flashforward in the same episode (so that may be played out in other episodes as well).

Now I'm not trying to "dismiss kids", but, is Aaron really considered as one of the Oceanic Six? To the public eye, he was born on the island (unless Kate is lying about his age) and not an actual survivor (ok, yes he survived in the womb after the crash), but I just find it a let down that they make that very minor character a survivor. I'd rather like to see Micheal or Walt.


So I bought an issue of TV Guide Magazine and they had a small interview with the cast and two writers of the show. They asked if any of the stars of the show had any questions about the show to the writers Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse. Here's how it went:

Jorge Garcia (Hurley): Is Ben in the coffin?
Cuse: Come on, Jorge!
Lindelof: Seriously! He's just trying to make sure it's not him. It's process of elimination *Laughs* The next question is "Is it Michael?"
Cuse: Before the end of the year, you will know who's in the coffin.
Lindelof: And Jorge will definitely know before anyone else.

(Nothing to say here)

Yunjin Kim (Sun): Is Aaron actually one of the Oceanic Six?
Cuse: We're not officially saying yet. We want the audiance to engage in an active debate about who the Oceanic Six are.
Lindelof: Following [Sayid's] episode, we got several inquiries about "Is Ben a member fo the Oceanic Six?" He could've assumed the identity of somebody on the plane with no surviving family. Who the actual Six are is very much in play throughout the end of the [March 13] episode. We'll confirm or deny after that.

I hated hearing this. Ben almost fooled the survivors that he flew in here on a hot air balloon, so it's quite possible he can fool the rest of the world he was on the plane (but that just means he'll be in the public eye and it will be harder for Mr. Whitmore to get his hands on him).

Josh Holloway (Sawyer): Is it Jack's turn with Kate?
Cuse: *Laughs* That doesn't sound very romantic, but I guess we get the underlying meaning. The Jack-Kate situation remains unresolved and probably will be for awhile.
Lindelof: We will say we haven't seen the last of Sawyer and Kate this season. Not by a long shot.

(nothing to say here)

Henry Ian Cusick (Desmond): It's 2004 on the frieghter. What year is it in Penny's world? What year is it when the Oceanic Six get home?
Lindelof: It's not really about what year it is in the outside world, it's about how many years elapsed between the time that we're watching on the island and the flash-forwards. That's one of the fun games the audience is playing: "Gee, Aaron looks like he's about 18 months old. What does that mean?"
Cuse: There are some growth issues when you go on or off the island. But I can't say more about that.
Lindelof: You're already said enough.

Hmmm. Since LOST has a lot of references from books and scientists, I wouldn't be surprised if it makes references to old movies as well. My father once told me of an old film where people are "forever young" on the mountain, but once they get off the mountain, the years that have passed will catch up with them. This may explain about Aaron and Walt's sudden growths. Rose will die if she leaves the island (the island won't be able to sustain her cancer anymore). And who knows, some other people may grow a few extra grey hairs (like Sayid ).

Evangeline Lilly (Kate): Did Michael reach the mainland? Go home? Come back to rescue us?
Cuse: The good news is that Evie will get all of her answers in [the March 20] episode.
Lindelof: Well, most of them.
Cuse: Those questions form the basis for that episode.

If my theory on time is right, I'm certain that Walt did leave the island. it's hard to tell for Michael (and any other older survivors because not much changes when we hit a certain age). We'll just have to wait until tommarow (it seems like it will be a Michael episode).

Holloway: Sawyer needs a freakin' haircut! Since I'm living with Hurley, can he cut my hair?
Lindelof: *Laughs* That episode's a casualty of the strike.

(nothing to say here).

-BGS

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

So now the dog can even see "mirages". Is there any way to see the V cast videos? Oh, and where is the dog anyways? I know he isn't that much of an important character (hehe, but he's "more important" than the extras He has a name) but I didn't see him in the season premiere.

-BGS

His name is Vincent

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

Ah, but the first time we met Mr. Whitmore, he was very smug saying "this one sip of alcohol is worth more than what you can earn in a year". And then he goes on saying, he's too good for his daughter (when I believe Desmond was asking Mr. Whitmore's permission to ask for Penny's hand in marriage). So it sorta brings back the question: Why is he soo pissed off at Desmond? At first it seemed like Desmond was trying to prove to Mr. Whitmore that he's good enough for his daughter to beat him at his own boat race, and then Mr. Whitmore was find with him getting in contact.

Now I don't know what order these things go in, but here are a list of events:

-Desmond breaks up with Penny (for what reasons? We don't know)
-Desmond goes into the Military
-Desmond goes to Oxford to find Daniel Farraday(sp?)
-Desmond gets sent to military prison, and then released (I forgot why he was sent)
-Desmond asks Mr. Whitmore for Penny's hand in marriage
-Desmond goes in Mr. Whitmore's race
-Desmond gets stuck on the island.

-BGS

Maybe Desmond changed time somehow, and somehow changed his standing with Whitmore?

Anyway last night's episode was good.
I think

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Ben set up Karl and Danielle, he never liked them anyway

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Originally Posted by Mike87

Anyway last night's episode was good.
I think

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Ben set up Karl and Danielle, he enver liked them anyway

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Well Juliet knew about the Sanctuary and nobody shot at her. My guess is that some of Mr Whitmore's men have already come onto the island undetected (another boat perhaps?). Either that, or (for some odd reason) the rest of "The Others" (maybe the original inhabitants of the island, not the new ones like Juliet) killed them off.

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-BGS

Lost is back! LOST IS BACK! :DDDD

Honestly, I've got to say that this past episode was my favourite this Season. I absolutely love the character of Ben Linus, and this episode showed us different sides of him.

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In the beginning, when we started his flashforward subplot, he seemed a little odd. Ben, as a character, is generally a guy who wins his battles through mental manipulation. He's a man of words, so I was pretty confused and pissed at the writers for characterization inconsistency when he went no-mercy on the guys he met in the desert. I was all ready to make an annoyed review for this episode, until I saw the rest of it of course.

We eventually come to learn about why Ben in the future did not use his words and old bag of tricks to win over the desert guys. This episode was the first time Ben's words actually failed him. For the entire series, Ben's been able to get anyone to do anything he wants. That all changed when he tried to save Alex- he pretended he didn't care about her, in an attempt to make the mercenaries pity her. They don't and they kill her, thus "changing the rules" (as Ben would say). He immediately turns to ruthless violence (ie summoning the monster) to get revenge on them for killing Alex, who we come to find he really did care a lot about.

But this kind of annoyed me too, because by then Ben was more of a sympathetic character than an antagonist. Sure he was a killer and an all-around jerk, but we've learned that he's not a totally cold-hearted villain stereotype.

Ben was again portrayed as a guy who we all love-hate in the last scene, when he threatens to kill Penelope. So, once again, we've got no idea whether we the viewer are supposed to pity or despise him.

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By the way, another note on the final scene of this week's episode:

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Anyone notice the fairly cheap lighting trick they did? I got pretty excited when I was able to point it out, but it was a little heavy-handed.

Ben's face was never for more than a second in complete light and complete darkness. It was always spot almost nearly in half- one half bathed in light, the other bathed in shadow. It wasn't just a coincidence, having to do with the fact that there was only one light source in the room- because there were times when Widmore's face was either in full light or full dark. It was I guess symbolic again of the complicated character, neither full antagonist or protagonist, always destined to be half "light" and half "dark" in the show.

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So yeah, this week's episode was completely amazing. I wasn't too fond of the one before the hiatus and was skeptical about whether or not I would be able to get hooked again, but OH MAN am I hooked now.

Long live Lost :3

Last night's episode was okay, I enjoyed the previous one better.

It's starting to go downhill for me now...
It seems like they're rushing it all of a sudden. They just kill off a character, like that, and I mean... I dunno I hope it gets better.

My dad just bought season 1 of the lost series. And I must say, There are tons of connections I forgot about. Like that Claire was supposed to raise her baby, and not jack and kate. I wonder if something will go wrong, like the baby will turn evil or something becuase she didn't raise him. also, I'm curious how they ended up with her baby. And we know that some people decided to stay on the island, like sawyer. So maybe the ocianic 6 said that they were the only survivors of the flight so that the rest of the oceanic survivors could stay and protect the island. It's obvious that the island has special properties, so maybe later on we will find out what these properties are, more specificly, and why they need to be protected.

Originally Posted by zeldask8r

My dad just bought season 1 of the lost series. And I must say, There are tons of connections I forgot about. Like that Claire was supposed to raise her baby, and not jack and kate. I wonder if something will go wrong, like the baby will turn evil or something becuase she didn't raise him. also, I'm curious how they ended up with her baby. And we know that some people decided to stay on the island, like sawyer. So maybe the ocianic 6 said that they were the only survivors of the flight so that the rest of the oceanic survivors could stay and protect the island. It's obvious that the island has special properties, so maybe later on we will find out what these properties are, more specificly, and why they need to be protected.

Oh I thought the baby was Kate's son... I thought she had gotten pregnant?
Hmm I guess I learned something new!

Originally Posted by AMP1317

Oh I thought the baby was Kate's son... I thought she had gotten pregnant?
Hmm I guess I learned something new!

Unless the dramatic music "DUn Dun DUuUUN" and her naming her child "Aaron" as a coincidence to the only other character named Aaron on the island, was just a way to throw us off, then I'd believe you. But I honestly don't think so

In the court room she had to lie about being pregnant and saying that the kid is hers (eventhough it has more blood connection to Jack, it being his step-nephew)

As for Aaron not being raised by anybody else but Claire, there's something astew(sp?) about it all. The psychic Claire met in Australia told her to go to LA (from his facial expression, he predicted the airplane crash, and her survival), and now Ghost-Charlie told Hurley to tell Jack that he's not suppose to raise him.

Now I just want to know where Claire is...is this how she disappeared? And who exactly is her father?

I've mentioned this before, but I think the Smoke monster is able to take form of anybody you've met in the past. It would sorta explain why we see all these appearances and why we always hear a strange whispering sound before a mysterious person/animal appears.

Maybe the original inhabitants of the island are immortal and have some powers of their own...

-BGS

I've mentioned this before, but I think the Smoke monster is able to take form of anybody you've met in the past. It would sorta explain why we see all these appearances and why we always hear a strange whispering sound before a mysterious person/animal appears.

i.e: Yemi(Eko's brother)

Originally Posted by BGS

Maybe the original inhabitants of the island are immortal and have some powers of their own...

Well, this episode basically cinched that you're right.

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We finally got us some answers about Richard. We not only know that he hasn't aged in about 20 years- now we know it's been as much as forty.

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As for the whole scene inside the cabin-

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Anyone else think it was surprising when we saw Christian Shepherd? I hadn't known he was going to be in this episode, so I was all... waitWHAT.

Also, I think Locke seeing him might mesn he is in fact not a hallucination. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't we pretty much learn earlier that if someone has a hallucination, no one but the person it is for can see it? (ie, that episide with Hurley's imaginary friend, what's-his-name.) Although my memory could just be failing me.

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Also, I have a theory about Desmond-

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I think he's pretty much as good as dead at this point. He said in this episode, "I am never setting foot on that island again as long as I live" or something to that effect.

To me that seemed like foreshadowing, to the "he's as good as gone" end. :<

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Originally Posted by Lly

Well, this episode basically cinched that you're right.

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We finally got us some answers about Richard. We not only know that he hasn't aged in about 20 years- now we know it's been as much as forty.

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I was estatic to see Richard Alpert back. Why? I heard that ever since the actor signed a contract with the TV show Cane, he wasn't allowed to be on LOST (which would explain his absence from the series for a little while). Well since Cane got cancelled, I suppose he's free to return.

I still believe that the very original inhabitants of the island (meaning Richard Alpert and all the people he lead) are the smoke monster (one and the same), and they can blurt out images of people in one's past. If this is true, then it seems that the smoke monster passes judgement on people. Richard Alpert passed judgement on a young Jon Locke, and the smoke monster itself passed judgement on the Eko.

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As for the whole scene inside the cabin-

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Anyone else think it was surprising when we saw Christian Shepherd? I hadn't known he was going to be in this episode, so I was all... waitWHAT.

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Ah, so that was Christian Shepherd holding Aaron in the previous episode (I didn't get a clear view of who it was in the night time). When she said "dad?" I thought she meant another man (as in, a man that grew up with her, and loved her mother). It was hard for Claire to accept Christian as her biological father, so I didn't think she'd call him by that name.

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Also,