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Old 10-02-2007, 05:18 PM   #1
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American or Japanese Cartoons?

I always wonder what all your opinions are nowadays on Anime and cartoons. Even if you don't watch as much TV now, what is your choice and why?
I personaly like American cartoons the best? Why? ANIME IS TAKING OVER THE WORLD! FOR GOD'S SAKE, DO SOMETHING!
But seriously, anime-like shows are now taking up most of our lineblock and have NO STORY whatsoever. Old school cartoon lovables include Spider-man, Ghostbusters, The Tick, Pinky and the Brain, ect. I've only liked about 3 animes, and they're DBZ, Bleach, and Bobobo.
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Old 10-02-2007, 05:20 PM   #2
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They're both the same, but one of them has a bigger community of basement dwellers and annoying nerds. Guess.
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Japanese cartoons. Why? Elfen Lied, Naruto, and...that's it. .
But SpongeBob is the best cartoon ever. Period.
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Old 10-02-2007, 05:22 PM   #4
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Both sides are good, and I don't really prefer one over the other. I have to say I've seen more Japanese made cartoons recently than American made ones. Still, I don't prefer one over the other.

I think anime tends to revolve more around action, and cartoons revolve more around comedy. Like some of my favorites:

Bugs Bunny: American made comedic cartoon.
Naruto: Japanese made action cartoon.

I might be wrong on this, though, and am sorry if I am.
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Old 10-02-2007, 05:27 PM   #5
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They're both the same, but one of them has a bigger community of basement dwellers and annoying nerds. Guess.
I think that sums it up nicely.
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The oldies? American cartoons.

These days? Japanese of course.

Only a few American cartoons are now hand drawn, rest is all flash or 3D.
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It doesn't matter, it's still all animation.
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I like Japanese cartoons nowadays, but that is because recently Nick and Disney cartoons have gone down the tubes. If they start making good American cartoons, that means cartoons, not computer animated or whatever they use, then it could be a toss up.
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I don't consider computer animated shows cartoons. That's a whole different group altogether.
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Wow, this is a harder question than I thought. I love animes like One Piece, Bleach, etc., but I also love american shows like Korgoth of Barbaria, South Park (would South Park count?), Venture Bros., etc. Japan specializes in the action department and America rules in the comedy field, but there are exceptions. In the end, I would have to side with Japanese animation, but it was a hard desission.
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I like Japanese cartoons nowadays, but that is because recently Nick and Disney cartoons have gone down the tubes. If they start making good American cartoons, that means cartoons, not computer animated or whatever they use, then it could be a toss up.
80% of all anime is computer animated, mind you, same as American cartoons. Like popular hits such as Naruto and One Piece.
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I hate how in america majority of cartoons are focused at kids, and lack mature content. Most american cartoons also lack good artistic style (shows like fairly odd parents, spongebob, Edd ed and eddy, fosters home for imaginary friends, etc) they all have horribley unrealistic art styles. Anime has much more mature content. Awesome fighting, ocasional blood and gore (depends what your watching) actual plot, most american cartoons plots don't carry over from episode to episode, making the plots short, simplistic, and very un-in depth. Anime almost always carries the story over from episode to episode, so the plot is deeper, and more plot twists can acur.

One other thing I have always dis-liked is how cartoons lack adult language. I'm not saying little timmy turner should say the F word, or he should curse alot. Just that, If you got shot by a lazer and your arm was smoking and an ugly alien (mark) shot it at you, you wouldn't say "owch!" you would say "damn you!" or something like that. Also, its terrible when You hear adults stub their toe and yell "oh crud!" or "dangit!" when in real life, most adults would say "crap! that hurts!" or "damn that hurt!". anyway, I like how anime has more realistic art and has more mature themes.

(all things posted above are generalizations. In some instances this may not be true)
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thats completely untrue. Anime is hand drawn by the artists. for instance, masashi kishimoto draws the manga for naruto. Then, he has his animation team use do things like shading and textures. the artists usually just does alot of rough sketchs. Masashi Kishimoto directs the anime, he dosn't draw every single cell indevidually by hand, that would take a lifetime. They use computers at the end of to add the color and to crop the images so they fit on your TV screen.

Computer animation is when there is no drawing involved. most computer animators use software to great computer generated images, large studios like pixar do this. They also use clay models to sculpt what the characters will look like. This method uses little to no Hand drawing except possibly concept art. Everything you see on your screen is completely rendered by a computer. Its a completely different style of animation
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Yeah, but what do my kids get to watch? Cartoons are meant to target kids. Put all the cartoons you describe late at night when kids are asleep. I don't want that kind of crap in their heads. Most cartoons late night are more adult mature, even on kids channels.
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thats completely untrue. Anime is hand drawn by the artists. for instance, masashi kishimoto draws the manga for naruto. Then, he has his animation team use do things like shading and textures. the artists usually just does alot of rough sketchs. Masashi Kishimoto directs the anime, he dosn't draw every single cell indevidually by hand, that would take a lifetime. They use computers at the end of to add the color and to crop the images so they fit on your TV screen.

Computer animation is when there is no drawing involved. most computer animators use software to great computer generated images, large studios like pixar do this. They also use clay models to sculpt what the characters will look like. This method uses little to no Hand drawing except possibly concept art. Everything you see on your screen is completely rendered by a computer. Its a completely different style of animation
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80% of all anime is computer animated, mind you, same as American cartoons. Like popular hits such as Naruto and One Piece.
I am aware of that, however I was talking more so of the stuff like Jimmy Neutron and Finding Nemo. Those specific ones I mentioned are ok, but there are a lot of bad ones out there with cheap jokes. At least that's what I think...I loved the disney classics like Aladdin, Little Mermaide, The Lion King, and even Mulan. I believe Mulan was the last classic disney movie.
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I hate how in america majority of cartoons are focused at kids, and lack mature content. Most american cartoons also lack good artistic style (shows like fairly odd parents, spongebob, Edd ed and eddy, fosters home for imaginary friends, etc) they all have horribley unrealistic art styles. Anime has much more mature content. Awesome fighting, ocasional blood and gore (depends what your watching) actual plot, most american cartoons plots don't carry over from episode to episode, making the plots short, simplistic, and very un-in depth. Anime almost always carries the story over from episode to episode, so the plot is deeper, and more plot twists can acur.

One other thing I have always dis-liked is how cartoons lack adult language. I'm not saying little timmy turner should say the F word, or he should curse alot. Just that, If you got shot by a lazer and your arm was smoking and an ugly alien (mark) shot it at you, you wouldn't say "owch!" you would say "damn you!" or something like that. Also, its terrible when You hear adults stub their toe and yell "oh crud!" or "dangit!" when in real life, most adults would say "crap! that hurts!" or "damn that hurt!". anyway, I like how anime has more realistic art and has more mature themes.
This goes along with my belief that American cartoons are about comedy, more than action and story. Shows like Fairly Odd Parents and Ed, Edd, and Eddy are just supposed to make you laugh. Even older one like all the Loony Toons. There isn't supposed to be much story, just comedy.

So I guess it's better to ask what you like your cartoons to have: action or comedy oriented.

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thats completely untrue. Anime is hand drawn by the artists. for instance, masashi kishimoto draws the manga for naruto. Then, he has his animation team use do things like shading and textures. the artists usually just does alot of rough sketchs. Masashi Kishimoto directs the anime, he dosn't draw every single cell indevidually by hand, that would take a lifetime. They use computers at the end of to add the color and to crop the images so they fit on your TV screen.

Computer animation is when there is no drawing involved. most computer animators use software to great computer generated images, large studios like pixar do this. They also use clay models to sculpt what the characters will look like. This method uses little to no Hand drawing except possibly concept art. Everything you see on your screen is completely rendered by a computer. Its a completely different style of animation
I can tell the difference between computer animated and cartoons. Anyone who watched both types of animations should be able to tell just by looking.

Come to think of it, I can't give a quick answer on how I coul tell, should anyone ask. I just can.

Edit: Actually, The Alladin series was a Disney cartoon series with cintinuity, and a nice blend of action and comedy. So my belief doesn't fit everything.
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I don't see what all the fuss about computer animation is. Anyone remember Beast Wars or ReBoot? Mhm. There goes your argument, right there. =/

I don't particularly like one more than the other. I love certain animes, but generic cartoons include quite a few unforgettable shows. Either way, though, computer animation is your friend. It makes things better.
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I don't see what all the fuss about computer animation is. Anyone remember Beast Wars or ReBoot? Mhm. There goes your argument, right there. =/

I don't particularly like one more than the other. I love certain animes, but generic cartoons include quite a few unforgettable shows. Either way, though, computer animation is your friend. It makes things better.
The key word there is 'remember' Really you're right...there is nothing wrong with computer animation, it's the low quality stuff being produced by it now... cartoons are low in quality too. I miss the good old days when there were a lot more cartoons...and fewer computer animations (now they are taking over America...AHHH!) and all was higher quality. When I say higher quality I am talking about movies/ shows that have a story that interests you, but isn't completely based on stupidity.
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I like both. But, I do miss the good ole' days of american cartoons when most everything was of high quality. Now all we get is crap, with the exceptions of a few cartoons.

As for japanese cartoons, I like most of the ones I watch, but for everyone i like there are like 4 i don't.

Both have their advantages and disadvantages, neither is superior than the other.
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Yes, those were good, Skyland for example though isn't.

And japanese cartoons are hand drawn, but they use computers to make it high quality and not grainy like you'd see in most 80's and 90's anime. Or they use a tablet.

The difference is when there are corners being cut using, most widely known for example, Flash. It's far too easy to just draw and arm and then rotate it and or replace the hand on it rather than draw out an arm moving or hand opening/closing.
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