For All Of You Who Refuse to Embrace Greatness: Windows 7 to Include Windows XP Mode

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

I feel sorry for anyone who buys a Dell.

Dell's are not that bad, really.

I'm using a Dell right now.
This was my dads laptop, he gave it to when he bought a HP.

It's been in use for about 5-6 years now.

Originally Posted by Wolf O'Donnell

Dell's are not that bad, really.

I'm using a Dell right now.
This was my dads laptop, he gave it to when he bought a HP.

It's been in use for about 5-6 years now.

Trust me, once you start studying hardware a little, you'll figure out why Dell is awful.

You missed my point about the TV though. Everyone knows Wal-mart gets faulty or lower quality things then Radioshack or Stables.

All I'm saying is, that for how reliable Apples products it makes you wonder how it happens. Compared to other computer companies. All the research I have done points to high quality control. Are all these researchers stupid?

All I'm saying is, in the words of Steve Jobs, We don't ship "Junk"

It doesn't make them perfect. But for a lot of people they have the upper hand in life span and quality. Not just my opinion. Google around. If it isn't higher quality control, then I don't know what it is!~

Originally Posted by fratey

Trust me, once you start studying hardware a little, you'll figure out why Dell is awful.

Please tell.


No, seriously, I want to know.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

You had bad luck with a Mac then. My fathers Apple laptop is almost 10 years old and the only thing it's needed to have replaced is the hard disk in the battery.

Oh, not me, but others. You see, power failures after three years are common. Even Macbook owners agree with this.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

My facts are silly? How are they? It wouldn't be fanboyism it would be fangirlism. If your going to insault me then at least get my gender right.

I'm not insulting anyone here. Fanboyism is the word here, so I use it. Sorry if it offends you, but I'm not going to butter it up for you.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

And I never said my dad was perfect. But believe me, he can't put a computer together in such a manner that it will run "slower" then it should. It wouldn't run at all if he did something wrong.

Here you shine with your computer knowledge again.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

I still don't get how my facts are "silly". I did my research. I did a report like this many times in school. Most people seemed to agree with me.

Yet you didn't show us any facts.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

But, if it isn't that there hardware is of higher quality. How come Apple computers tend to last a lot longer then most PCs on the market?

Again, you should learn to separate between Apple vs PC and Apple vs Dell vs IBM vs HP etc... My IBM thinkpad will most likely last longer than a unibody macbook. ;3

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

Not all, most. Are you saying Alien Ware has the same quality hardware Dell uses and they still charge you a 4000 dollar price tag anyway?

Alienware = Dell. Anything else?

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

EDIT. Since when did I say I was trying to prove Macs are more powerful? For photo editing and web design they probably do.

Which is lies and slander, darling. PC > Mac for photo editing, I'm sorry, but that's life.

Originally Posted by Wolf O'Donnell

Please tell.


No, seriously, I want to know.

Overpriced and pieces literally fall off the case. The average doesn't break, but then there's the case that I would pick Apple over Dell in most cases.

For the record, I know Dell = Alien Ware. Which actually proves my point. If dell is so crappy. Why would they sell Alien Ware for higher if it had the same quality parts?

I don't want to just show facts. Because what I'm saying should make since. I know power supplies fail after a year, those are cheap to replace.

Computer knowledge? All I'm saying is he didn't build it wrong. GOOGLE IT. There are test that show Macs that are specced the same run Windows Vista better (SOMETIMES) then a PC with the same specs.

I don't know why, I just said it might be because Apple has higher quality control on there parts. If that isn't it. Then its just something about that big shiny apple logo on the back, isn't it? Hmm. I wonder what it could be!~

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

For the record, I know Dell = Alien Ware. Which actually proves my point. If dell is so crappy. Why would they sell Alien Ware for higher if it had the same quality parts?

It's a brand thing. Brands take higher.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

I don't want to just show facts.

Oh, I know you don't.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

Because what I'm saying should make since. I know power supplies fail after a year, those are cheap to replace.

Mine has lasted 4 years so far and still working. Heavy usage here, darln'.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

Computer knowledge? All I'm saying is he didn't build it wrong. GOOGLE IT.

Sure, what's your father's name?

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

There are test that show Macs that are specced the same run Windows Vista better (SOMETIMES) then a PC with the same specs.

IT RUNS BETTER SOMETIMES? :O:O:O
Now that can be because a Mac IS a PC! Duh. Why would I want something that sometimes runs better, sometimes run worse (basically, just as good) for between 60-250% more? That's the key point.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

I don't know why, I just said it might be because Apple has higher quality control on there parts. If that isn't it.

Apple has quite good control, but not as good as you want to make them.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

Then its just something about that big shiny apple logo on the back, isn't it? Hmm. I wonder what it could be!~

Oh, I wonder who is getting sad that her 'facts' get broken down!~

I was being sarcastic. I don't want to make them seem better then they are. I'm not sad. Being a smart ass wont get you anyone, sir.

All I'm saying is its pretty obvious that Apple does something different then most computer companies with hardware. I don't know what it is, but its something.

All I did was say that might be the case (the hardware thing) and people start being smart asses and attacking me. I might just move on to another community where people will actually TRY something before they bash it and respect my theories. I don't understand how my facts are "silly". They make perfect sense.

And as for my fathers name. Why do you need to know that? He sells computers from his home. do you got 1000 dollars handy for a computer? You better live close to me because he only sells to locals.~

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

I was being sarcastic. I don't want to make them seem better then they are. I'm not sad. Being a smart ass wont get you anyone, sir.

All I'm saying is its pretty obvious that Apple does something different then most computer companies with hardware. I don't know what it is, but its something.

going to skip this part since it's so boring to reply to...
And you're right - they do that elitism thing quite well.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

All I did was say that might be the case (the hardware thing) and people start being smart asses and attacking me. I might just move on to another community where people will actually TRY something before they bash it and respect my theories.

Yeah, I'd definitely say that I loved Macs (check earlier post) if I never tried them before, amirite?

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

I don't understand how my facts are "silly". They make perfect sense.

Really? Most of your points were lies. Right now, I'm using a cheaper, better, and lighter laptop than most Macbooks.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

And as for my fathers name. Why do you need to know that? He sells computers from his home. do you got 1000 dollars handy for a computer? You better live close to me because he only sells to locals.~

You told me to google it~

Originally Posted by fratey

Trust me, once you start studying hardware a little, you'll figure out why Dell is awful.

Used to be bad.

Again, if one must buy pre-fab'd then one could do much, much worse than a modern Dell.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

You missed my point about the TV though. Everyone knows Wal-mart gets faulty or lower quality things then Radioshack or Stables.

Nope, they get the exact same product. They charge less because they abuse their workers to make up the difference.

All I'm saying is, that for how reliable Apples products it makes you wonder how it happens. Compared to other computer companies. All the research I have done points to high quality control. Are all these researchers stupid?

Apparently. You ever seen these studies first-hand?

All I'm saying is, in the words of Steve Jobs, We don't ship "Junk"

iMac cases were reacting with air and producing a deadly air-borne toxin. What is that, if not "Junk"?

It doesn't make them perfect. But for a lot of people they have the upper hand in life span and quality. Not just my opinion. Google around. If it isn't higher quality control, then I don't know what it is!~

Google isn't a source.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

Example. I man buys a Sony TV from Wal-mart and it breaks in 2 months.

His brother bought THE SAME Sony TV from Radioshack and its still going.

That is statistically insignificant even if Wal-Mart received slightly more defective products.

Originally Posted by John

Apple recently had a recall because the plastic on their laptops was reacting with oxygen to produce a deadly toxin.

Wow, that sucks.

Apple gets its hardware from the same Chinese factories that every other computer manufacturer does. Their quality is exactly the same as all the others.

What's more, the hardware you get is substantially weaker than what you can get for a PC.

Their software quality is all over the place, too. OS X is better than Windows in some ways, worse in others, etc.

Have you ever heard of "Calvin and Jobs?"

Ugh. Smart asses. I never said Google was the source. The sites you find from google are the source. I'm pretty sure Apple fixed all those problems.

And for people that have USED Macs would know about Apple quality. Its a shame people started attacking me because I made ONE comment about quality.

I don't know if the way the people get treated here is part of humor. But I don't think I'll be sticking around. So, as fun as its been. Another community waits for me. Maybe topics wont get derailed by silly and rude comments when I post a possibility or opinion.~ ^^

This topic is misleading. By "Embrace Greatenes" I thought you meant I could run Mac on my PC.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

Ugh. Smart asses. I never said Google was the source. The sites you find from google are the source. I'm pretty sure Apple fixed all those problems.

But random sites from Google aren't a good source.

What you want are statistical studies. Please cite some of those if you're going to argue that Apple has better longevity.

And yes, they did fix the problems, same as Dell fixed theirs.

And for people that have USED Macs would know about Apple quality. Its a shame people started attacking me because I made ONE comment about quality.

One erroneous comment, that's the problem.

Macs aren't better quality. In terms of longevity they're bang-on average. In terms of power they're heavily inferior, and in terms of price they're dead worst.

I don't know if the way the people get treated here is part of humor. But I don't think I'll be sticking around. So, as fun as its been. Another community waits for me. Maybe topics wont get derailed by silly and rude comments when I post a possibility or opinion.~ ^^

Who's been rude?

Disagreeing with someone is not the same thing.

I'd rather you not leave, you just happened to step on a land mine while not wearing any armour.

Howling Wind, you should talk to Lady Ranny I'm sure you two will get along great!


Still no need to switch to something that can run a virtual version of XP when I already have the real thing.
A new OS is almost always an unnecessary upgrade, I don't see how my computer will benefit from it. But it is nice to know that when I put together a new computer I don't need to go look around for XP.

New OSes are actually pretty good investments. You get far more features, better program compatibility, better hardware compatibility and a massive upgrade in security.

Okay, suppose I don't leave. Does that mean when I post something simple about quality people wont jump on me and use smartypants comments like "hahaha your funny?"

Because I really don't want to put up with it if I don't have to. Sure, in speed Macs are slower then a PC. But if you looks at a Apple Laptop and one from Dell or HP you would be crazy to not see which one looks more solid.

Sony on the other hand has great laptops!~ ^^

And I'm not leaving because "People dissagree with me" like people are saying on my profile. I just think this place moves to fast for me anyway.

And I'm not leaving because "I'm WRONG" Because it's my opinion and more then one person agrees with me. Just not the people here apparently, maybe some of you have never even used Macs before.

I just thought I would clear that up before I leave.

See this?

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/First-Lo...-Unibody/589/3

Build quality.

No, I'm not WRONG. People just don't understand what I'm saying. Maybe because I don't explain things very well. I didn't ask for this to be turned into so silly debate of people (maybe even never used Mac) posting all the reasons why this this and that. All I did was make one comment.

Talk about derailing topics ><

EDIT. If you want to see how I found out Apple lasts longer then most PCs, besides the fact that we own macs that outlived there IBM/IBM cloned buddies, go to the Apple discussion forum and look around.

Originally Posted by Howling Wind

Because I really don't want to put up with it if I don't have to. Sure, in speed Macs are slower then a PC. But if you looks at a Apple Laptop and one from Dell or HP you would be crazy to not see which one looks more solid.

Outside apperance is probably the worst way to judge the quality of a computer. :/.

See this?

http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/First-Lo...-Unibody/589/3

Build quality.

Which mentions nothing about the relative quality of the Macbook to other laptops.

EDIT. If you want to see how I found out Apple lasts longer then most PCs, besides the fact that we own macs that outlived there IBM/IBM cloned buddies, go to the Apple discussion forum and look around.

There's an old saying: "The plural of 'anecdote' is not data." It means, in essence, that personal experience is meaningless when it comes to figuring out most things.

I've had an ASUS motherboard fry the instant I turned it on, does that mean that ASUS is a bad company with crappy products? Not at all. It just means I was unlucky.

As I said, I've owned pre-built PCs that lasted a decade and were still going strong. My Grandma has a pre-built that's well into its teens with no issues (other than having very, very old hardware).

I've seen plenty of Apple products just break, including iPods, iMacs, and Macbooks.

However, none of this is proof of anything.

Originally Posted by fratey

I love how multiplatform that OS is.

WHY CAN'T I PLAY LITTLE BIG PLANET ON MY 360? BAAAWWWWW

Originally Posted by Dom

WHY CAN'T I PLAY LITTLE BIG PLANET ON MY 360? BAAAWWWWW

WHY CAN'T I PLAY SKATE ON MY PS3 BAWWWWW- oh wait