Nintendo DSi

Who has one, and who likes the improvements compared to the DS/DS Lite?

(if this is the wrong section, feel free to move it of course)

personally, i don't see alot of use in the camera, but you can make some hilarious edits to the pictures

I'll get one at monday... the DSi seems to be pretty good. I like the editing funciton for the camera. Looks pretty funny

Eh, the DSi isn't worth your money. Why would you even bother paying for a new handheld (Note: it's not really new, it just has more added multimedia) that is not even compatible with Gameboy Advance games?

New built-in camera vs. collection of Advance games - easy pick.

You can buy advance games in the DSI VC.
I ordered it. I guess I get it sometime next week

Originally Posted by Qnez

You can buy advance games in the DSI VC.
I ordered it. I guess I get it sometime next week

What now? Print money?

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Lollipop

Eh, the DSi isn't worth your money. Why would you even bother paying for a new handheld (Note: it's not really new, it just has more added multimedia) that is not even compatible with Gameboy Advance games?

New built-in camera vs. collection of Advance games - easy pick.

Meh, i can always use my old DS or AdvanceSP for Advance games.

Whenever something new and expensive is unleashed, i will, nay i MUST have it!

btw, it's not just the camera. the screens are slightly bigger, the sound and lighting is much improved, the time it takes to charge the battery is cut in half and lasts twice as long.

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

Meh, i can always use my old DS or AdvanceSP for Advance games.

Whenever something new and expensive is unleashed, i will, nay i MUST have it!

btw, it's not just the camera. the screens are slightly bigger, the sound and lighting is much improved, the time it takes to charge the battery is cut in half and lasts twice as long.

If you don't care about the backwards compatability, then why even care about the new DSi at all? If a bigger screen really is what turns you on, then I'd suggest to acquire a PSP - a much better handheld. The "time it takes to recharge" and "it has a camera" arguments are downright out of question.

Having two different kinds of Nintendo DS's is ridiculous.

Dude, PSP fails bigtime compared to the Nintendo DS series, and they only grow to become even better and more successful, meaning more profit for Nintendo. (This is a fact)

Even Sony announced that the PSP wasn't as much a success as they'd originally hoped.

In terms of gameplay, the PSP would be better, yes. But in terms of quality, the Nintendo DS exceeds PSP by far.

what i mean to say is, a PSP breaks easily...

Not to mention that the PSP was nearly a 100$ more expensive than the DS at the time they were both released.

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

Dude, PSP fails bigtime compared to the Nintendo DS series, and they only grow to become even better and more successful, meaning more profit for Nintendo. (This is a fact)

Even Sony announced that the PSP wasn't as much a success as they'd originally hoped.

In terms of gameplay, the PSP would be better, yes. But in terms of quality, the Nintendo DS exceeds PSP by far.

what i mean to say is, a PSP breaks easily...

Not to mention that the PSP was nearly a 100$ more expensive than the DS at the time they were both released.

The DS was never as good as the PSP. The only reason the DS sells so well is simply because of the biased audience, Nintendo's orientation and the fact that it moreover appeals to casual gamers such as yourself. The DSi is just another marketing strategy of Nintendo to rip people off by making few minor improvements. Arguing that the PSP breaks easily and costs 100€ more than the DS just makes up for the fact that you don't know anything about the handheld.

While those tools may keep your laughably small brain occupied, I am spewing out chunks of lung from disgust and uncongeniality for Nintendo.

It's just hard for me to trust a member who has a Zelda-related avatar and keeps posting addictively in the LoZ section of Zelda Universe.

Originally Posted by Lieutenant Lollipop

The only reason the DS sells so well is simply because of the biased audience, Nintendo's orientation and the fact that it moreover appeals to casual gamers such as yourself.

What's wrong with that? It proves Nintendo is better at marketing strategies and commercials. Sony doesn't do **** to make the PSP sell better, they just keep making retarded new games of which more than half are based on (or just total copies of) existing PS2/PS3 games. Nintendo continuously works on improvements to their gaming systems which in turn causes more people to buy their products.

You just proved my point instead of your own!

I'm not buying it, mainly because i have no money and because i don't like the DSi...

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

Dude, PSP fails bigtime compared to the Nintendo DS series, and they only grow to become even better and more successful, meaning more profit for Nintendo. (This is a fact)

The good Lieutenant here has a very good point.

As a pure gaming platform? Sure. The PSP does not, in my opinion, have an outstanding game library. I play DS games far more often than I play PSP games.

However. The PSP was not designed purely as a gaming console. If you've ever actually used one before, you must have known this.

Even Sony announced that the PSP wasn't as much a success as they'd originally hoped.

This is also true. But the PSP faces far more competition than the DS, it seems to me - it has to compete with the iPod when it comes to music, compete with digital cameras as a camera, things like this. The PSP is not purely a gaming system. The DS is.

In terms of gameplay, the PSP would be better, yes. But in terms of quality, the Nintendo DS exceeds PSP by far.

As far as I see it, the only major thing that caused this situation is how Nintendo's marketing strategy just worked, and Sony's fell flat on its face.
I wouldn't even agree with the gameplay part - I much prefer the majority of DS games. However, the PSP just does more, and does it reasonably well to boot.

what i mean to say is, a PSP breaks easily...

So...? Don't be careless with it.
If you're that concerned, you could always invest a few euros/whatever in a solid case. Problem solved.
(And the PSP's screen is, in general, far more reliable than a DS's touch screen)

Not to mention that the PSP was nearly a 100$ more expensive than the DS at the time they were both released.

That is the past. You can now get a PSP-3000 for considerably less than a brand new DSi, and it's only a little more costly than a DS Lite.

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

What's wrong with that? It proves Nintendo is better at marketing strategies and commercials. Sony doesn't do **** to make the PSP sell better, they just keep making retarded new games of which more than half are based on (or just total copies of) existing PS2/PS3 games. Nintendo continuously works on improvements to their gaming systems which in turn causes more people to buy their products.

You're right. But what you're failing to mention are the systems themselves. I like both, perhaps equally. I really enjoy a fair number of DS games, whereas the PSP has just a few major titles that I truly liked (Locoroco (2), Daxter). But I use the PSP for a far wider variety of things. With the camera, it takes decent pictures. It's an okay music player. Videos are of a very good quality for a handheld. And bonuses like Skype support on the newer models increase those options even more.

I won't be buying a DSi, myself. Perhaps in the distant future if the price decreases dramatically and I'm in one of my spontaneous 'feel like buying a new console' moods. But I am not terribly impressed that Nintendo are beginning to borrow ideas from competitors and using their huge, newly-founded customer base to sell those 'new innovations' to.

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

What's wrong with that? It proves Nintendo is better at marketing strategies and commercials.

What's wrong is your logic: larger sales doesn't equal better console. It just shows how it generally appeals to people. Your common sense really made my scepticism turn inside-out.

Sony doesn't do **** to make the PSP sell better, they just keep making retarded new games of which more than half are based on (or just total copies of) existing PS2/PS3 games.

I don't know where you are getting any of this, but name me five titles that are total copies of former installments on either the PS2 or PS3. The DS and Wii both have more remakes/ports in their library than original current-generation games. If any company is making copious amounts of copies of previously released games, it's Nintendo. But I can perfectly imagine you enjoying Cooking Simulator, Carnaval: Kermis Games and AllStar Cheerleader.

Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Pikmin 1 (Remake)
Mario Power Tennis (Remake)
Silent Hill (Remake)
Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat (Remake)
Eternal Darkness: Sanityl's Requiem (Remake)
Battalion Wars (Remake)
Odama (Remake)
Luigi's Mansion (Remake)

This is just a small line-up of ports/remakes that popped up in my head. These are just fewer examples of Wii games. I'm not even getting started on the DS's library.

Nintendo continuously works on improvements to their gaming systems which in turn causes more people to buy their products.

What improvements? Sony's consoles have better graphics, online, and even a bigger selection of multimedia installed. As for games: the DS is an exception to that rule, but what the Wii has been releasing the past half year is nothing more but a handful of mediocre games. Good thing a new Tales game has been confirmed for the Wii.

PSP plays music, movies, and games...

I have a PSP, i hardly ever use it. wanna know why?

I hardly ever listen to music (practically never), i have a DVD player for movies, and do not feel obliged to re-buy movies just to watch them on my teensy-tiny PSP-screen (compared to my TV), and as for the games part, i have a PS3, Wii, a DS/DSlite/DSi, and some other outdated consoles i don't use anymore.

This makes the PSP rather useless to me and possibly many other people who are in the same situation as me. People didn't want to buy a PSP because there are so many less expensive items which can do just the same. If Sony wanted the PSP to be a bigger success, they could've easily dropped the price a bit (alot actually)

Alot of people don't think things through. They'd rather buy 4 low-priced items, instead of a 250$ "tiny" PSP

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

i have a DVD player for movies

I'd like you to pack a DVD player in your backpack every time you walk out.

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

and do not feel obliged to re-buy movies just to watch them on my teensy-tiny PSP-screen (compared to my TV)

Who says you should rebuy them?

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

and as for the games part, i have a PS3, Wii, a DS/DSlite/DSi, and some other outdated consoles i don't use anymore.

Okay.

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

This makes the PSP rather useless to me and possibly many other people who are in the same situation as me.

What makes the DSi useful then, compared to your already existant DS?

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

People didn't want to buy a PSP because there are so many less expensive items which can do just the same.

Tell me a handheld console that can play Liberty City Stories.
PSP HAS LOTS OF UNNECESSARY MULTIMEDIA
BUT I LIKE THE DS CAMERA LOL

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

Alot of people don't think things through. They'd rather buy 4 low-priced items, instead of a 250$ "tiny" PSP

Says the one who buys both a DS and a DSi...

First of all, why are the two of you on a Nintendo-biased forum with that kind of talk?

Says the one who buys both a DS and a DSi...

That's two low-priced items compared to the PSP

Tell me a handheld console that can play Liberty City Stories.

Liberty City stories was a near-exact copy of GTA 3. And you know that later on, they made a PS2 version of the game right? That's because the PSP version didn't sell enough!

I'd like you to pack a DVD player in your backpack every time you walk out.

Why would I want to watch movies when I walk out? I can watch movies when I'm home, which would be the only appropriate time or place to decently watch movies anyway.

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

First of all, why are the two of you on a Nintendo-biased forum with that kind of talk?

It's not Nintendo-biased, it's Nintendo-based. Zelda is what brought us here together, we're a collectivity of Zelda fans; not necessarily Nintendo fans. Most of us have signed up here because they have played Ocarina of Time and fell in love with at a young age, others because it was their first video game ever. Mostly, you'll get confronted with the former.

On another note, we don't have to be supporters of Nintendo to post on a Zelda forum. That'd be silly.

I think we can now officially conclude you lost this two-page argument, Sixaxis.

And if you're into hacking, and pirating games, and R4 cards, then you're **** outta luck. NDSi gon' lock that **** out so guess what? NO MORE R4 CARDS FOR YOU!!! I find it funny that people call the original DS a gimmick but ****in' look at the DSi!

It's not really an argument. It's some people saying "I don't need it, therefore it's stupid." and some people saying "I kind of like it, I might buy it, so it's okay", and then the first group jumps on them and tries to rape them so they'll see their point of view, but the second group is filled with people with Down's Syndrome, so I don't really care.

I'll probably grab one when/if I replace my old DS. Otherwise, it's pretty alright, but I don't care enough.

1. What's the difference between a DS and a DS Lite?
2. What's the difference between a DS Lite and a DSi?