Nintendo DSi

No thanks. I'll wait till the DS2 comes out, or until my DS Lite breaks.

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Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

The DSi for all practical purposes is the DS2. It's technically more of a DS Color, but the point of the matter is, get comfortable with the system. It's going to be Nintendo's main portable for the next three or so years going forward.

I disagree, the dsi is the third upgrade and it came out right after the psp 3000, which was the third and last uprgrade to the psp. So, after the psp2 comes out then the DS2 will emerge. The dsi will probably be replaced within the next two years depending on the sucess and release date of the psp2.

Originally Posted by linksmolecules

I disagree, the dsi is the third upgrade and it came out right after the psp 3000, which was the third and last uprgrade to the psp. So, after the psp2 comes out then the DS2 will emerge. The dsi will probably be replaced within the next two years depending on the sucess and release date of the psp2.

Well judging from Nintindos previous history with handhelds. I say we have 3-4 years until the DS2. So I think Mr. Wonderful is right in his assessment.

How good do you think the graphics of the DS2 will be?

Probably around early PS2 graphics.

Originally Posted by Black Dog

Probably around early PS2 graphics.

That would be pathetic by the time the DS2 comes out.

Originally Posted by Eternal Paradox

Well judging from Nintindos previous history with handhelds. I say we have 3-4 years until the DS2. So I think Mr. Wonderful is right in his assessment.

Huh, the ds was released in 2004 and has already been upgraded twice since. There is no way to dsi will remain for another four years without an upgrade. The ds lite was released two years after the first, so if you look at nintendo's recent past they upgrade their handhelds about every two years.

Whenever a console comes out, a handheld it released ten years later with just as good graphics.

GameCube and PS2 were released in late 2001/early 2002, so we'll prolly see a "DS2" in the next two or three years.

Originally Posted by linksmolecules

Huh, the ds was released in 2004 and has already been upgraded twice since. There is no way to dsi will remain for another four years without an upgrade. The ds lite was released two years after the first, so if you look at nintendo's recent past they upgrade their handhelds about every two years.

The DSi is more then a slight cosmetic upgrade though like the other two though. Read Mr. Wonderful's posts. The CPU and RAM are both much higher then they are on the regular DS's, there is no reason for them to come out with a DS2 for awhile now.

Originally Posted by Eternal Paradox

Well judging from Nintindos previous history with handhelds. I say we have 3-4 years until the DS2. So I think Mr. Wonderful is right in his assessment.

~blink~ which previous history are you looking at?

looking at GBA runs VS DS runs specifically (information pulled from release dates on Wikipedia):

The GBA overall (SP included) ran 2001-2004 for a total of 3 years before it was overshadowed by the DS...though the micro came out in 2005, making it 4 or 5 years...
The DS has run from 2004-2009+ for 5+ years.

The original Advance version ran 2001-2003 for 2 years.
the SP version ran 2003-2004 for 1 year before the DS came out.
the micro was released in 05, and didn't do so well, being released after the DS.

the original DS version ran 2004-2006 for 2 years before it was replaced by the Lite
Lite ran 2006-2009 for 3 years.
DSi 2009+

when you look at the numbers...previous history says they're overdue for a new handheld system altogether. hopefully they've learned their lesson from pissing off the fans with the DS release so soon after the SP release / the poor sales from the Micro overall. but I don't see the DSi lasting that long or getting upgrades, being the second upgrade of a system that's already had a such a long run. I'd bet they're going to replace the DSi with a completely new handheld system in about 2 years.

NES released in 1983
GB released in 1989

SNES released in 1990
GBA released in 2001

N64 released in 1996
DS released in 2004

The average time between the releases of the hand held in comparison to the console it equals is about 8 or 9 years. The PS2 was released in 2000, so it is coming pretty close for a handheld version of it.

Originally Posted by wolfen

The DS was released in 2004, which is ten years after the N64. If you look at the releases of consoles and the handhelds that equal their graphical power, a handheld comes out a decade after its console. The PS2 was released in 2000, so the time for a handheld equaling the PS2 is close.

Patterns, PATTERNS!!! They're everywhere I tell you. The Maturity Zelda games pattern, the "handheld graphics to last console" pattern.

Make soo much sense!

Originally Posted by wolfen

The average time between the releases of the hand held in comparison to the console it equals is about 8 or 9 years. The PS2 was released in 2000, so it is coming pretty close for a handheld version of it.

I know the PSP can't handle PS2 games, but games like Dissidia look really close to the way they do. If the PSP2 rumor is true, then that is the system that will give us those graphics.

Originally Posted by squall24

I know the PSP can't handle PS2 games, but games like Dissidia look really close to the way they do. If the PSP2 rumor is true, then that is the system that will give us those graphics.

I would say that the best looking PSP games look better than most PS2 games, and some of the mid-generation to late-generation games as well. If either Nintendo or Sony actually did a hardware upgrade as much as they could for ~$200, I would expect a Wii/Xbox level handheld. Heck, look at the (soon to be given another significant hardware revision) iPhone. Some of its specs are in line with or above last generation console specs.