Nintendo DSi

Originally Posted by Leinator

Well, not really. You can't play SNES or NES games on it, which is a huge plus for me. You can't watch videos

You can already do all that on a computer for free. The DSi is more expensive than the Lite, which was the same price as the Phat. I'm not trading in my Lite either because it's only around a year old so it works fine, I have a 3 year warranty for it, and I have stickers and a carrying case for it.

Originally Posted by Triforce of the Gods

You can already do all that on a computer for free. The DSi is more expensive than the Lite, which was the same price as the Phat. I'm not trading in my Lite either because it's only around a year old so it works fine, I have a 3 year warranty for it, and I have stickers and a carrying case for it.

Well, I'm not telling you you have to, I'm just pointing out the advantage of the console to those who criticize it as a pointless upgrade.

Also, you can emulate DS games on the computer for free too, so under that logic, there's no point in buying any DS at all. The point is portability, and until now, the PSP was the simplest, safest, cheapest portable emulation/homebrew solution. Now, it's the DS. I'd say the Ipod touch comes close, but its hardware capability is nothing in comparison to the DSI.

Originally Posted by Leinator

Again, I point out the magnitude of having the SD card slot and the ease of hacking and emulation. I can more or less guarantee it will be hacked and emulated within months of today. SD cards go up to 64 Gb now, that's more than enough for the entire SNES, NES, and GBA ROM library, all on a handheld with no need for expensive card readers and system modification.

Also, the DS has the ability to play video, if anyone has ever tried a GBA flash cart installer with one of the DS video players they have floating around on the net. A player made specifically for SD card installation can't be that far away either.

I understand the pure appeal of being able to use the old GBA cartidges you paid money for, I still have a few (although I also still have my SP.) Regardless, this really doesn't matter to someone who sold theirs or doesn't play them, an emulator is a much cheaper and more convenient option.

Plus, as several have pointed out, there are so many homebrew possibilities with expandable memory. The DS is on par with the PSP now, which has a truly incredible homebrew/emulation community.

There's a big difference between 133Mhz and 333Mhz, and a platform that is already realized and matured in the homebrew community. Yes, it will allow you to do some really cool things six months to a year from now, but saying that it is NOW the same isn't correct.

Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

There's a big difference between 133Mhz and 333Mhz, and a platform that is already realized and matured in the homebrew community. Yes, it will allow you to do some really cool things six months to a year from now, but saying that it is NOW the same isn't correct.

Well, the DS homebrew community is already fairly strong, it just requires micro-SD, moonshell-loaded flash cards and the willingness to manage and update your home-brew player. All they have to do is transfer what they've accomplished on microSD through Slot-1 to the DSi's SD port. I imagine the wait will be far less than 6 months.

And yeah, I'm not claiming that the PSP is an inferior, I prefer the PSP for homebrew and emulation, but the DS is very capable, and the pure ease of just transferring some files to an SD card makes it a strong competitor, in my opinion.

i might get a DSi if i have to replace my DS Phat...but the lack of GBA port is a bit sad...i love that...

Originally Posted by Leinator

Well, the DS homebrew community is already fairly strong, it just requires micro-SD, moonshell-loaded flash cards and the willingness to manage and update your home-brew player. All they have to do is transfer what they've accomplished on microSD through Slot-1 to the DSi's SD port. I imagine the wait will be far less than 6 months.

And yeah, I'm not claiming that the PSP is an inferior, I prefer the PSP for homebrew and emulation, but the DS is very capable, and the pure ease of just transferring some files to an SD card makes it a strong competitor, in my opinion.

I was referring more to ruining custom firmware (which would be more extensive) off of the DS, not the current SD card solutions.

The DSi
Looks good, Camera seems to have a decent quality
SD slot (im not good with the tech stuff ^^')
Music sounds very sweet
DSi Shop HOT DOG
Aaaaand...if forgot some other stuff... ^^'

Thats my Opinion Byye! *Poofs*

Originally Posted by The Poe Ghost

The DSi
Looks good, Camera seems to have a decent quality
SD slot (im not good with the tech stuff ^^')
Music sounds very sweet
DSi Shop HOT DOG
Aaaaand...if forgot some other stuff... ^^'

Thats my Opinion Byye! *Poofs*

The camera is 0.3 mega pixels. Its not very good quality. The capability for it to play music is solely for messing around with it, it doesn't playback very well. The only thing that seems good, is what Leinator is saying, the possibility just use emulators and other things on it.

I"m not sire what I think about the Dsi. I've always liked the fact of the Downloadable games. The camera is something not needed but adds a bit of awesomeness to the Dsi's features. The music idea is cool but you have to go nut and change all files to files called AAC. Pictochat hasn't changed one bit. The browser is what you need if you're ever traveling without a comouter. You can get the browser by downloading it off the Dsi Shop. That depends if you have Wi-fi.

~bellum~

Originally Posted by Ben

The camera is 0.3 mega pixels. Its not very good quality. The capability for it to play music is solely for messing around with it, it doesn't playback very well. The only thing that seems good, is what Leinator is saying, the possibility just use emulators and other things on it.

I believe the inner camera is .3 MP, the outer one is 3MP.

Nope, both are 0.3MP

Originally Posted by John

Nope, both are 0.3MP

I based my facts off nothing, anyway.

Originally Posted by wolfen

I normally like to watch my movies and TV episodes in one sitting. Imagine going into a movie theater three times for one movie.

Imagine going to the movie theater as many times as you want to for the same movie.

Originally Posted by Ben

If you have a Lite, no. If you don't have a DS at all, yes. Then again, the loss of the GBA Slot is kinda big. The music (The ability to put music on it to listen to) quality isn't that great, its only to mess around with. The photo quality isn't that great either.

Weird, the sound quality with a m3 simply was great according to a friend.

Originally Posted by Jοe

For less money, you can purchase an outdated PSP and run custom firmware on it.

Which is blockier, though.

Has anyone mentioned the DSi's new texture?

No more sweaty hand problems ! (not for me at least)

I don't understand why nobody has said it yet: Why the heck is this thread in technology and not General Gaming?

Because the DSi itself is a form of technology, not a game.

Originally Posted by toile98

I"m not sire what I think about the Dsi. I've always liked the fact of the Downloadable games. The camera is something not needed but adds a bit of awesomeness to the Dsi's features. The music idea is cool but you have to go nut and change all files to files called AAC. Pictochat hasn't changed one bit. The browser is what you need if you're ever traveling without a comouter. You can get the browser by downloading it off the Dsi Shop. That depends if you have Wi-fi.

~bellum~

The browser is slow, and takes a while to load things.

Originally Posted by fratey

Weird, the sound quality with a m3 simply was great according to a friend.

If you personally haven't heard it, than its just as good as me saying it's bad. I haven't heard it either, but from what I've heard its not that great. Guess we'll just have to wait.


EDIT: Which reminds me. For you Pokemon fans, no more importing Pokemon from GBA games on a DSi. =/

Originally Posted by Ben

Which reminds me. For you Pokemon fans, no more importing Pokemon from GBA games on a DSi. =/

Anyone who would go to the trouble to do so, did so as soon as Diamond/Pearl were released.

I find it annoying that people complain that the DS is only beating the PSP because of the marketing despite the PSP being better, despite the fact that the DS has a vastly superior library of games. The control system makes it possible to make games that would be impossible on the PSP, and I imagine this new camera will be used in innovative new games too like Another Code for the original DS.

Originally Posted by John

There won't be many DSi only titles.

The DS is 4.5 years old, and this is the second major revision to it.

As such, the vast majority of DSes that will ever be sold are DS Lites and "Phats", with the DSi coming in a distant third. Developers would be foolish, to say the least, to target the smallest possible market.

You might see a few games that have bonus features for the DSi, but that's about it.


And, of course, I own all the GB/GBA games I want to (save one, admittedly) and losing the ability to play them so that I can buy them again is not a thrilling proposition.

Do you have any type of GBA? Then you can play your old games and still get a DSi without buying them on DSi Shop. Besides, I know there were plenty of great games for all of the GBs, but you have to admit, they're old!
Now, about you saying the DSi won't sell as much. Well, I say nobody can judge, since it is to early in the life span. Plus, Gamestop said the total numbers of DSi preorders were more than the DS Phat, and that's not including other stores that took preorders for the DSi. And you have to admit, the numbers of DS Lite units are slowly going to stop selling since the DSi was released.

Originally Posted by SixaxiS

Because the DSi itself is a form of technology, not a game.

Well then, I guess the PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii discussions should all be here too, because it's technology.