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Old 05-09-2007, 06:03 PM
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AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

I'm not an expert at computer specs and I plan to buy a new computer thats more than what I need but not a monster one that has the best of everything. I pretty much know what I want to get except the processor.
First off, I would like to know what you all think would be the better performance of the processors I have stated on the title. An AMD 4200 or a core 2 duo 1.86. I don't know much about processors. Any recommendations would be fine. Plus, what would be better, an AMD or Intel?
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Old 05-09-2007, 07:10 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

Stick with the AMD. My dad just got a PC with that same processor and its powerful. Even my much older AMD 3000+ is pretty strong ... runs all my media, does whatever I need without lag (I record game video with SnagIt8, convert movies and music, and edit video to a degree).
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Old 05-09-2007, 08:04 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

You can't exactly have everything sort out just besides your CPU.
Your CPU and motherboard...

I'd go with Intel, the Core Duo series is really kicking ass at the moment. Good overclockers and they run pretty damn cool too.

I'd pick up one of them and a nice ASUS motherboard to boost.
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Old 05-09-2007, 09:42 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

Core 2 Duo is the way to go at the moment.
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Old 05-10-2007, 09:18 AM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

I'm running an Intel Core 2 Duo (2.4GHz) and I'm a very happy customer.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:29 AM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

I have a 3.4 Ghz Core 2 Duo and it works great. If you already have your motherboard, it should say if it's compatible with AMD or Intel; only one will work.
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:05 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

if you're planning on overclocking, go the core 2 duo route.
also get the e6320 over the e6300 double the l2 cache but the same price.

single threaded performance puts it a little ahead of the athlon x2 at stock, multithreaded performance usually goes to the athlon though. both are neck and neck at stock.


also, what is duel core? is that where the cores fight each other until one dies?


as for who is better, AMD or intel... as a company, I'd say AMD based on their business practices. Intel has the better product out right now though.
basically intel kicked AMD's ass up until around 1998 in terms of products, then in 199 AMD came back in and basically dominated Intel on the whole up until q2 2006(save for a brief period before the launch of the athlon x2) now Intel has the performance crown.

AMD usually offers their products at a better value, more bang/$ but there are exceptions. If you're overclocking definitely go the intel route if you have a moderate budget. If not then AMD likely has the better solution for the cost(overall)
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Old 05-10-2007, 03:09 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

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I have a 3.4 Ghz Core 2 Duo and it works great. If you already have your motherboard, it should say if it's compatible with AMD or Intel; only one will work.
are you referring to a 3.4Ghz Pentium D(those suck big) or a C2d which you overclocked? which board out of curiosity and which CPU?
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:05 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

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I have a 3.4 Ghz Core 2 Duo and it works great. If you already have your motherboard, it should say if it's compatible with AMD or Intel; only one will work.
Yes, I know only one will work and I have not chosen everything. I'm just asking which would do better.

So I'll probably go with the Intel, maybe a better one. However, one more question. How does the intel core 2 due 1.86 match up today? Is it old? Should I get a newer one?
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:16 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

here, take a look

X-bit labs - April Confrontation: AMD and Intel Start the Price War (page 3)

the two are almost neck and neck. if you aren't overclocking I'd personally advise you go for the athlon. Also under typical use the athlon is more energy efficient.

but it comes down to which one better fits your use and which one is cheaper.

you meant 5200+ right?
Newegg.com - AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ Windsor 2.6GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor - Retail
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 Conroe 1.86GHz 2M shared L2 Cache LGA 775 Processor - Retail

the 5200 is above the e6300/e6320 but not by a ton. 5200 should be cheaper though as motherboards made for it cost less.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:29 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

Uh, no nighthawk, I meant 4200 but thanks for the information anyways.
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Old 05-11-2007, 03:31 AM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

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Uh, no nighthawk, I meant 4200 but thanks for the information anyways.
Where are you buying the CPU from?
Surely you can pickup a better CPU for not much more money.
They're so cheap.
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:18 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

Okay, this is what I have so far for my computer:

Computer case and power supply: Ultra UV Wizard Blue ATX Mid-Tower Case with UV Reactive Clear Side, Front USB, FireWire Ports and Ultra X-Finity 600-Watt Blue SLI-Ready Power Supply

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz / 2MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB / Conroe / Dual-Core / OEM / Socket 775 / Processor
(or maybe a 2.13 E6400)
Motherboard: EVGA nForce 680i SLI NVIDIA Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / SLI / Dual Gigabit LAN / S/PDIF / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID

Memory/RAM: OCZ Dual Channel XTC 2048MB PC5400 DDR2 667MHz Gamer Memory (2 x 1024MB)

CPU fan: Ultra / Fire / Socket 775 / P4 3.8Ghz / Copper Core / CPU Fan

DVD Burner: Lite-On Super-Multi LH20A1H / 20x DVD±R Burn / 16x DVD±R Read / 8x DVD+RW / 6x DVD-RW / 8x DVD±R DL / 12x DVD-RAM / Internal / Black&Beige / DVD Burner with Lightscribe

Update later...
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Old 05-12-2007, 05:11 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

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Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 1.86GHz / 2MB Cache / 1066MHz FSB / Conroe / Dual-Core / OEM / Socket 775 / Processor
(or maybe a 2.13 E6400)
Motherboard: EVGA nForce 680i SLI NVIDIA Socket 775 ATX Motherboard / Audio / PCI Express / SLI / Dual Gigabit LAN / S/PDIF / USB 2.0 & Firewire / Serial ATA / RAID
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also get the e6320 over the e6300 double the l2 cache but the same price.
Don't forget that. It's a pretty good point.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:17 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

if possible get the e6320
should be the exact same price, but it has the full 4mb l2 cache

just reiterating that...

also don't bother with a i680board if you don't need a ton of it's RAID features i650 will suffice. The exception to this would be if you need full 16x SLI for a dual 8800GTS/X SLI setup. If you're trying for dual 8600s - DON'T the 8600s SUCK compared to the 8800GTS 320mb. the 8800GTS 320mb is a fair deal faster than dual 8600GTSes and uses less power and is cheaper.
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:10 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

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if possible get the e6320
should be the exact same price, but it has the full 4mb l2 cache
Alright, done, and it does not cost any more.


also don't bother with a i680board if you don't need a ton of it's RAID features i650 will suffice. The exception to this would be if you need full 16x SLI for a dual 8800GTS/X SLI setup. If you're trying for dual 8600s - DON'T the 8600s SUCK compared to the 8800GTS 320mb. the 8800GTS 320mb is a fair deal faster than dual 8600GTSes and uses less power and is cheaper.[/QUOTE]
Alright, I've changed to a i650. I don't plan on getting a monsterous SLI setup but I might just put 30 more dollers to get a i680.

As for a graphics card, how about just starting out with this:

EVGA GeForce 7600 GS / 256MB GDDR2 / SLI / PCI Express / DVI / VGA / HDTV / Video Card
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Old 05-16-2007, 02:43 AM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

A better question is, will you be gaming on your PC?
If you are, your going to want more than a 7600GS.
If your not, that'll do fine.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:10 PM
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A better question is, will you be gaming on your PC?
If you are, your going to want more than a 7600GS.
If your not, that'll do fine.
Yes, I do want to game on my PC. I thought a 7600GS would be decent for a start but I would like a recommendation. Not more than $140.

But I do know that a 7600GS would be alot better than that abomination called Geforce FX 5200 I got for this PC.
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Old 05-16-2007, 03:58 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

I'd atleast go for a 8600GTS, it's brand new technology. DirectX 10 and it's pretty fairy priced.

Compare the specs:
Video Card Comparison - GPUReview.com

EVGA GeForce 8600 GTS 256Mb
If you can't buy it now, I'd wait and save up. You'll thank yourself in the long run. The 7600GS just can't handle even todays games, the 8600GTS will and should be okay for next-gen games.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:44 PM
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Re: AMD Athon 64 X2 4200(duel core) or intel core 2 duo 1.86 ghz E6300?

Go with the AMD. It's an allover better brand, plus that specific make is 2.2 GHz, 400 MHz more than the Intel. Customer satisfaction according to Newegg is also 3% higher. I bought an AMD processor as well, though I haven't built the rest of the computer to see how it'll work. I'll let you know later how the processor is. Oh, and for the person who asked, multicore processors are basically two processors in one that run simultaneously, speeding up the overall computer speed.
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