Is There A New Video Format on the Horizon?

I just wondering what people think, since the price for the Blu-Ray is going down, and some movies are going down, Do you think something new is coming? I'm asking this because my step-dad is wondering if he should purchase a Blu-Ray, or wait for another technology to come. One thing is my step-dad always thinks he knows what he's talking about (even though half the time he's wrong anyway) and he thinks something new is coming. I think he should go out and buy a Blu-Ray and not wait, it's a good time to buy one, and you never know it could take more than just a few years for a new format to come out. So what do you think?

They're like $99, go for it - it's not like there's much use getting quality above 1080p. Just make sure you have a HDTV, else it's redundant!

I think blu-ray and HD are both wastes of time and money. Syre there is a difference in the picture, but really, how detailed do you need it? People have survived fine this whole time with normal TVs. in fact, I don't even like blu-ray, it seems too real. Things move ina way they shouldn't move on a TV, I find it more distracting than a regular TV.

Originally Posted by Mattocks

I think blu-ray and HD are both wastes of time and money. Syre there is a difference in the picture, but really, how detailed do you need it? People have survived fine this whole time with normal TVs. in fact, I don't even like blu-ray, it seems too real. Things move ina way they shouldn't move on a TV, I find it more distracting than a regular TV.

We do have a HDTV so what the heck?
Plus, when i watch my movies i want things to look little more natural, and im the kind of guy that likes their movies with some good special features and since most companies are starting to put all of the good features on the
Blu-Ray instead of DVD (which is unfair marketing imo, but smart to the company) might as well go for it.

Originally Posted by Shock&Money

We do have a HDTV so what the heck?
Plus, when i watch my movies i want things to look little more natural, and im the kind of guy that likes their movies with some good special features and since most companies are starting to put all of the good features on the
Blu-Ray instead of DVD (which is unfair marketing imo, but smart to the company) might as well go for it.

Well if you can apreciate that sort of thing, get a PS3. I'm not a fan of the system either, but it is the cheapest blu-ray player on the market as far as I know.

Originally Posted by Mattocks

Well if you can apreciate that sort of thing, get a PS3. I'm not a fan of the system either, but it is the cheapest blu-ray player on the market as far as I know.

Shows what you know. When it comes to a home theater system Blu-Ray is the only way to go. And there is a lot of good players out there that start at 100 bucks so there ya go.

Originally Posted by Dark Wyrm

Shows what you know. When it comes to a home theater system Blu-Ray is the only way to go.

Not really it doesn't. I don't know a whole lot about home entertainment. I know enough to talk about it, but I wouldn't consider my self an expert, hence why I stated "as far as I know". Now if we were talking about food, or lacrosse, or some other things, that would show what I know.
And I disagree. I'm perfectly content with just regular deffinition, so I could easily do a home theatre without it.

Originally Posted by Mattocks

I think blu-ray and HD are both wastes of time and money. Syre there is a difference in the picture, but really, how detailed do you need it? People have survived fine this whole time with normal TVs. in fact, I don't even like blu-ray, it seems too real. Things move ina way they shouldn't move on a TV, I find it more distracting than a regular TV.

if everyone had this attitude we'd still be using video cassettes and record players.

yes there is, in 10-20 years, blu-ray will be entirely obsolete...

FYI that new format is called NAND, it's been around for something like 29 years... it hadn't been comercially viable until lately, and won't be commercially viable for movies(at least at bluray capacity) for another 3-5 years at least.

720p video(3hours) is presently viable, though more expensive, at the media level(about $10)
and don't worry about upgrade costs, most cellphones, most non-apple digital media players(apple doesn't like giving people options if it costs them money) and computers already have the port built in to support this technology.


FYI, I'm basically talking about those little memory cards on cameras, the cost to produce them is dropping rapidly.

Originally Posted by Mattocks

Not really it doesn't. I don't know a whole lot about home entertainment. I know enough to talk about it, but I wouldn't consider my self an expert, hence why I stated "as far as I know". Now if we were talking about food, or lacrosse, or some other things, that would show what I know.
And I disagree. I'm perfectly content with just regular deffinition, so I could easily do a home theatre without it.

Not really. You want true uncompressed surround sound, the only format that does that is blu-ray. And one a home projector, you wouldn't want a standard def set up, its looks horrible.

Originally Posted by Dark Wyrm

Not really. You want true uncompressed surround sound, the only format that does that is blu-ray. And one a home projector, you wouldn't want a standard def set up, its looks horrible.

you have a legitimate point there. Your average user has a $2000 audio set up and superb hearing to match it and the difference in source quality is HUGELY discernible, especially since all the original recording equipment was perfect as well...

I mean it'd be horrible to compress audio to the point where it's not noticeable worse to your lay man(or someone one or two deviations above)...

FYI uncompressed audio is around 1000kb/s
uncompressed video is... up to 40,000kb/s

so yes, your assertion that... umm what was your assertion? that a file couldn't be saved identically to another medium? If data wasn't stored to a harddrive, tape drive, SSD, compact flash, music DVD, or some other format, how was it setup to be usable on bluray under mass production?

FYI people(myself included, I have a fair share of flac files) have had UNCOMPRESSED FLAC PLAYING DMPs FOR A FEW YEARS NOW... not entirely viable because of how huge the files are but...

Originally Posted by Dark Wyrm

Shows what you know. When it comes to a home theater system Blu-Ray is the only way to go.

wat
I'd rather have a HTPC over a Blu-Ray player any day of the week

Originally Posted by nighthawkx

FYI uncompressed audio is around 1000kb/s

wat
1411kbps = 176.375kb/s

Originally Posted by Mattocks

I think blu-ray and HD are both wastes of time and money. Syre there is a difference in the picture, but really, how detailed do you need it? People have survived fine this whole time with normal TVs. in fact, I don't even like blu-ray, it seems too real. Things move ina way they shouldn't move on a TV, I find it more distracting than a regular TV.

Have you ever given HD a reasonable shake? Your "things moving in a way they shouldn't move on a TV" only occurs if you jack up the Hz.

Originally Posted by nighthawkx

FYI people(myself included, I have a fair share of flac files) have had UNCOMPRESSED FLAC PLAYING DMPs FOR A FEW YEARS NOW... not entirely viable because of how huge the files are but...

FLAC is compressed, it's just lossless.

Originally Posted by Danger

wat
I'd rather have a HTPC over a Blu-Ray player any day of the week

I'd rather have an HTPC with a Blue-Ray player any day of the week. (since when are they mutually exclusive?)

Originally Posted by 8bit

FLAC is compressed, it's just lossless.

that's what I get for pulling an allnighter... and you're right and I even KNEW that hahaha

remind me again why it matters if it's compressed if it's lossless, is there anything wrong with storage efficiency other than the fact that it requires slightly more processing power to decompress? I'm NOT being sarcastic here.

Originally Posted by Danger

1411kbps = 176.375kb/s

the flac file I had playing at the moment had a bit rate just over 1000kbits/s

Not likely.

There is a new resolution in the workings called Super Hi-Vision (7680 × 4320 pixels), but it won't be out for quite some time. An uncompressed 20 minute video took up about 4 TBs (terabytes) on one of its first promotional videos by NHK. That would hardly fit on a Blu-Ray. However, I believe it's still in prototype stages, as it is hardly practical. I must point out, however, that we're talking about a resolution that probably won't be introduced to the mainstream public until 10 to 15 years from now (at the very least).

I think it's safe to say as far as video format goes, Blu-Ray will be in the spotlight for some time. So go ahead and buy yourself a Blu-Ray player.

Originally Posted by nighthawkx

the flac file I had playing at the moment had a bit rate just over 1000kbits/s

as 8bit said

Originally Posted by 8bit

FLAC is compressed, it's just lossless.

Bitrate = bits per second
if a file is less bits, then bits per second is lower. You said uncompressed, not compressed or lossy/unlossy.

Originally Posted by nighthawkx

remind me again why it matters if it's compressed if it's lossless

For me it doesn't matter because you're the one who claimed it had a much higher bitrate than it had.

Originally Posted by nighthawkx

that's what I get for pulling an allnighter... and you're right and I even KNEW that hahaha

remind me again why it matters if it's compressed if it's lossless, is there anything wrong with storage efficiency other than the fact that it requires slightly more processing power to decompress? I'm NOT being sarcastic here.

The compression isn't as good as an OGG Vorbis, MP3, or ACC, (bigger file size) but the quality is equivalent to that of a raw WAV file.

Buy one. They look absolutely fantastic, providing you have a good tv. I bought my HDTV a few days ago, so I could finally see what all this hype was about blu-ray players, and HD picture. I put I Am Legend into my ps3, and my mind was blown. It looks so good. But, if you're like Mattocks, and you're not really into detail as far as picture goes, they're also far more durable than standard DVD's, so they're likely to last you longer.


And as far as a new format coming, i'd doubt it happening anytime soon.