SSB4 Roster (Please read, worked hard)

This is one of my roster attempts, so speak what you wish of it. You may also post your own rosters.


Characters


Unlockable:*


Mario:
-Mario
-Peach
-Bowser
-Luigi *
-Bowser jr. *

Zelda:
-Link
-Zelda
-Toon link *
-Gannondorf *
-Tingle *

Donkey kong:
-Donkey kong
-Diddy kong
-King k. rool*

Mother:
-Ness
-Lucas

Animal Crossing:
-Tom Nook

F-Zero:
-Cap. Falcon
-Samurai Goroh *

Wario:
-Wario
-Mona *

Star Fox:
-Fox
-Falco *
-Wolf *
-Krystal

Pokemon:
-Pikachu
-Mewtwo *
-Pokemon Trainer (Chikorita, Quilava, Feraligatr)
-Jigglypuff *
-Lucario
-Plusle and Minun *

Metroid:
-Samus/Zero suit
-Ridley *

Fire Emblem:
-Marth (Shadow Dragon)
-Ike
-(New lord, or Roy) *

Yoshi:
-Yoshi (With babys from Yoshi's island DS, Switches with down B)
-Kamek *

Pikmin:
-Olimar

Retro:
-Little Mac *
-R.O.B. *
-Ice climbers
-Game and Watch *

Golden sun:
-Isaac

Third Parties:
-Sonic *
-Snake *
-Megaman *


46 Characters....need 4 more so fire away.



Stages

In this section, I will only list new stages.

Desk (SSB 64)
You remember the desk from the opening of the N64 smash? Well this is it!
Master hand can be seen carrying dolls of the characters who are in the fight. There is a cup of pens in the left hand corner wich can be knocked over. Other than that, its a pretty normal stage.

Boxing Ring (Punch-Out!!! Wii)
A boxing ring. Doc luis can be seen in the corner cheering for your character.
Every now and then A character from Punch-Out!!! will jump in the stage and swing at characters.
Just hit him a couple of times depending on the character.

Lakebed Temple (Twilight Princess)
The water dungeon from Twilight Princess!
The fighting takes place in the main central room, and the staircase rotates and alternates between each end of the room, like in TP. The water level also changes levels, and water occasionally flows down the staircase, causing characters to slide down. The big chandelier hanging from the ceiling is at the top.


*In need of stage ideas*




Discuss and Advise.

You didn't list any of the characters I'm hoping for, but oh well. That's a pretty good list anyway. At least you put Ike in. :3

Still, I'd love to see Daisy, Dixie Kong, Meowth, and Infernape (Pokemon Trainer Pokemon).

Lacks Ridley.

IMO ridley would be a better boss. For PT, I was trying to be diverse, I named them in a certain pattern.

Why? Its pretty much the second most important character of the series. Size is also doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by Goober Dude

This is my first roster please don't shunn me. I am not giving reasons for characers or anything like that. This is all up to me. Most of you will likely say it isn't even logical.

Well good way to start off the topic, man. >_>

Mario:
-Mario
-Peach
-Bowser
-Luigi
-Bowser jr.

Bowser jr. is pretty meh. He's a logical choice.

Zelda:
-Link
-Zelda
-Toon link
-Gannondorf
-Skull kid
-Tingle

Okay, Tingle is alright. He's probably the only good choice. Skull Kid, though?

Donkey kong:
-Donkey kong
-Diddy kong
-K. rool

Good choice in K. Rool. He really should have been in Brawl, and he should have been the one to steal DK's bananas, and seeing him team up with Bowser would have been awesome.

Wario:
-Wario
-Waluigi
-Orbulon

Ugh, Waluigi and Orbulon? Why Orbulon? Although, you probably don't want to give a reason. Mona would have been a better choice from WarioWare. And as far as Waluigi goes, he should never be playable until he is playable in an actual Mario game.

Pokemon:
-Pikachu
-Pokemon trainer (Treeko,Charmelion,Feraligatr)
-Pokemon rival (Chimchar,Marshtomp,Venesaur)
-Lucario
-Plusle and Minun

I really don't like your Pokemon Trainer set ups; Charizard is easily the most popular starter ever, why did you take him out? Why are you including Plusle and Minun, and not Jigglypuff?

Metroid:
-Samus/Zero suit
-(Other M character)

Instead of an Other M character, you could have included Ridley.

Fire Emblem:
-Marth (Shadow Dragon)
-Ike
-(New lord, or Roy)

Whatever. Personally, I don't think Fire Emblem deserves 3 character reps (and neitehr does Wario)

Yoshi:
-Yoshi (With babys from yoshis island DS, Switches with down B)
-Kamek

Why are you taking away one of Yoshi's more useable moves? And what would the babies do, anyway? Kamek is a nice choice, I guess, but Mario is littering your roster.

Pikmin:
-Olimar
-(Some pikmin 3 character)

>_> Ok.

Retro:
-Little mac
-R.O.B.
-Ice climbers
-Game and Watch

Little Mac is a great choice.

Advanced wars:
-Will
-Andy

Cool, I guess. Personally, I don't think AW should get two characters. They really could just swap skins for each character, and have them do the same thing. It'd work out okay.

Golden sun:
-Isaac

Awesome.

Third Parties:
-Sonic
-Pac-man
-Megaman

No Snake?

If you noticed snake wasn't there, Its because I don't like him. same with Jiggly.

I also noticed that Captain Falcon, Lucas, or Ness weren't there. >_> Or Kirby, King Dedede and Meta Knight. You don't like them either?

It is fun to play with snake, I just don't feel like he belongs.

Why cut characters, anyway?

And Smash Bros is all about sticking in characters whom you would not see together (please tell me how Samus belongs).

Please leave in Jigglypuff; she's the greatest joke character of all time. You unlock her, you think "WTF did I just unlock?", you use her and she seems really bad, but then you play her and realize she's a good character and has an amazing kill move (which adds to her amazingness).

I know size doesn't matter. In most games, Bowser is big enough to swallow mario whole. I am sure there will be a suitable character in Other M.


@TheBattler: WTF! I forgot to put those in...... Thanks for letting me know.
Which of yoshi's moves did I take away? The babys don't affect his normal b, Just his smashes.

His butt stomp.

Originally Posted by Goober Dude

In most games, Bowser is big enough to swallow mario whole. I am sure there will be a suitable character in Other M.

So...you think it's better for Ridley to be fought maybe four times in a game than for you and your friend to choose Samus and Ridley and have them battle in epic duels?

@TheBattler: WTF! I forgot to put those in...... Thanks for letting me know.
Which of yoshi's moves did I take away? The babys don't affect his normal b, Just his smashes.

You said down b.

Originally Posted by TheBattler

I really don't like your Pokemon Trainer set ups; Charizard is easily the most popular starter ever, why did you take him out? Why are you including Plusle and Minun, and not Jigglypuff?

Because Charizard is the most overrated, fat excuse for a dragon-like Pokemon ever, if you ask me. I used to like Charizard too, but then I started seeing how overrated he really was and how stupid he looks. I mean he's a fat, round, dragon thing with weird arms, fat stubby legs, and odd colors. I don't think orange looks good with blue. His face is fine though.

If I had to choose a Pokemon trainer roster, it'd be Infernape, Grotle, and Piplup.

As for Plusle and Minun, I really don't care if they're in or not, but I would rather have Meowth than Jigglypuff. He's the cooler Pokemon. Perhaps he could even talk like in the anime.

@TheBattler: Oh. Well characters should always be subject to change. Look at mario and fluud. I can't find a pokemon set that looks good on both of them with charizard. The reason jiggly was in the first one is because of his popularity in japan. He isn't so anymore.
As for trainer I was trying to cover all gens because they cant have one for every gen.
Plusle and Minun are cool, and jiggy is queerosexual IMO.

I please ask for ideas, not critisizm.

(I Will be offline for a while to watch LSU play. Don't stop posting ideas.)

Originally Posted by Crystal

If I had to choose a Pokemon trainer roster, it'd be Infernape, Grotle, and Piplup.

Good thing you don't have to then.

Its pretty likely that if PT returns, Charizard return too. Most of the characters are fanservice

Well, I've quoted your post and made my own edits to show you what my idea of the roster would be. The changes are in bold.

Originally Posted by Goober Dude

Mario:
-Mario
-Peach
-Bowser
-Luigi
-Daisy

Zelda:
-Link/Wolf Link
-Zelda
-Toon link
-Gannondorf


Donkey kong:
-Donkey kong
-Diddy kong
-Dixie Kong
-K. rool

Wario:
-Wario
-Waluigi
-Orbulon

Pokemon:
-Pikachu
-Pokemon trainer (Piplup, Grotle, Infernape)
-Meowth
-Lucario
-Plusle and Minun

Metroid:
-Samus/Zero suit
-(Other M character)

Fire Emblem:
-Marth (Shadow Dragon)
-Ike
-Eliwood/Ephraim/Lyn

Yoshi:
-Yoshi (With babys from yoshis island DS, Switches with down B)
-Kamek

Kirby:
- Kirby
- Meta Knight
- King Dedede

F-Zero:
-Captain Falcon

Pikmin:
-Olimar
-(Some pikmin 3 character)

Retro:
-Little mac
-R.O.B.
-Ice climbers
-Game and Watch

Advanced wars:
-Will
-Andy

Golden sun:
-Isaac

I also took out Tingle, Skull Kid, and the third party characters. I really don't think any of them belong. Though Sonic didn't seem that out of place. I suppose he'd be fine. But no one else.

Originally Posted by Quin

Good thing you don't have to then.

What do you mean good thing? Pokemon Trainer sucks right now. if anything, my roster idea would make him better.

Not really, Your combo can sucks hard too competitive wise. They can also improve the current pokemon trainer.

Originally Posted by Quin

Not really, Your combo can sucks hard too competitive wise. They can also improve the current pokemon trainer.

Uh, you're basically contradicting yourself here. First you say they'd suck, now you'd say they would improve the character?

No, you said that the PT you made would improve the current one, but seeing as they could just improve the current one.(which I agree, isn't that good competitive wise)

If nintendo made your team, They can make it just as bad as the current one, or worse.

Yeah, but with the ideas I have for all three Pokemon, they WOULD be better. I never said just throwing in Piplup, Grotle, and Infernape would automatically bring PT up higher on the tier list.

Infernape's moveset:
- Standard B: Mach Punch
- Up B - Rock Climb
- Side B - Flame Wheel
- Down B - Switch Pokemon

Weight class: middle
Power: 2.5/5
Speed: 4/5
Move speed: 3.5/5


Grotle's moveset:
- Standard B: Razor Leaf
- Side B: Tackle
- Up B: Leech Seed
- Down B: Switch Pokemon

Weight class: heavy
Power: 4/5
Speed: 2/5
Move speed: 3/5

Piplup's moveset:
- Standard B: Bubblebeam
- Side B: Surf
- Up B: Waterfall
-Down B: Switch Pokemon

Weight class: light
Speed: 3/5
Power: 3.5/5
Move speed: 3.5/5

Final Smash: Triple Finish (Fire Blast, Solar Beam, Hydro Pump)

Infernape is the fast one with less power, Grotle is the slow and heavy powerhouse, and Piplup is an all around character.

The next smash bros is probably gonna have a different way of playing, so you can't really tell if there gonna be better.
And besides, Nintendo wouldn't care if its gonna be better or not. Fans rather want to play their favorites characters anyway, So this is very unlikely.
And even if they did change PT, It's probably 3th gen pokemon.

Maybe, maybe not. But SSB doesn't take the most popular characters. They take the most important characters and most famous characters. Geno is very popular, so why hasn't he been in the game yet for example? Because he's not important to the Mario series. He only made one real game appearance.

Piplup, Grotle, and Infernape are the most important Pokemon to the newest generation of Pokemon, so they should get a chance now, not the first gen Pokemon. Pikachu should stay because he's the mascot, as for Meowth or Jigglypuff, they're both pretty famous Pokemon.

Originally Posted by Crystal

Because he's not important to the Mario series. He only made one real game appearance.

How the hell would you know? It could be copyright issues.

Piplup, Grotle, and Infernape are the most important Pokemon to the newest generation of Pokemon, so they should get a chance now, not the first gen Pokemon. Pikachu should stay because he's the mascot, as for Meowth or Jigglypuff, they're both pretty famous Pokemon.

When the new Smash Bros comes, Gen 5 probably already exists, so I won't count on it.
Also, Jigglypuff probably never leaves, its one of the original 12.

I also think they should add one more F-Zero character. I don't know much about the series, only played one, but it deserves one more.