SSB4 Character Ideas

So, what are some people's ideas for characters they'd like to see in the next SSB?

I have a few in mind:
- Daisy
- Meowth (replacing Jigglypuff)
- Infernape (replacing Charizard)
- Dixie Kong
- Eliwood and/or Ephraim

Daisy could have flower moves that DIFFER from Peach's girly stuff. She could also use sports equipment since she's only in the Mario sports and party games.

Standard B: Flower Ball (from Mario Superstar Baseball)
Side B: Poison Flower (same effect as Lip's Stick)
Down B: Flower Bomb (a flower powered ground pound, basically, since ground pounds are used in the Mario Party games a lot)
Up B: Daisy Copter (kind of a combination between Peach's parasol and Snake's Up B. I thought of this since flowers have been known to spin in some Mario Party mini games)
Final Smash: Flower Power (Daisy magically makes huge flowers shoot up and then back down all over the stage. They send opponents flying when they hit)

Daisy's A moves could be something like using her in that one 2vs2 mini game in Mario Party 8. What was it called? They're fist fighting each other and whoever wins faces each other at the top unless they're on the same team. xP

Meowth could have these:

Standard B: Pay Day
Side B: Faint Attack
Down B: Fury Swipes
Up B: Night Slash
Final Smash: Last Resort (couldn't think of anything else lol)

He'd obviously attack with his claws when A is used.

Infernape would be an awesome replacement for Charizard. Charizard wasn't that great of a character anyway. Infernape would be fast, do some damage (he wouldn't be a powerhouse though, nor heavy), and maybe have decent recovery.

Standard B: Mach Punch/Fire Punch (either could work, though Mach Punch would make more sense)
Side B: Flame Wheel
Up B: Rock Climb
Down B: Switch Pokemon (obviously lol)
Final Smash: Triple Finish, obviously. XD

Infernape's A moves would be comprised of his awesome fighting and karate style. :3

I haven't thought about Dixie Kong or the FE characters I listed. I'd just like to see them. xP

Oh ho ho ho ho.

Super Smash Brothers character ideas.

Well, I've been playing Mega Man X lately, and I've come up with a Mega Man idea. It's not finished because I want Mega Man to play like Mega Man X as well as the original Mega Man, with some flashes of Mega Man from the Capcom Vs games. Unfortunately, I suck at the original Mega Man games, and I suck at the Capcom Vs. games, so I have some ways to go.

=MEGA MAN=

Character Quirks
-Mega Man doesn't have a "run." He has a dash. Tapping the control stick forward twice will make him dash like he does in Mega Man X. One can make him dash from a standstill, as well as dash while he's moving, and one can interrupt a dash with...another dash, making him look really weird.
-Mega Man can't duck.
-Mega Man has a "midair dash" instead of a midair jump. He can dash very quickly in any of the 4 directions in the air once. This is from Mega Man X2.
-If Mega Man kills an enemy, one can make him taunt and he gains a new Buster shot based on the opponent he just killed. For example, killing Bowser gives him the flamethrower from Mega Man X.

Moveset
-The A button controls the Buster, as well as a few of his other moves. He can move around while charging the Buster, as well as firing it. The regular shot does 1% damage and no hitstun. Charging it for 1/4 of a second makes the shot larger, makes it do 7% damage, some hitstun, and it can pass through multiple enemies. Charging it for a full 1 second makes the shot very large, do 15% damage, some knockback, and pass through multiple enemies.
-The B button controls Rush, although using B forward or B backward will change Mega Man's current shot.
Down A: Baseball Slide
-From the original Mega Man games
Forward/Back B: Change shot
-This only works if Mega Man has killed enemies and has new shots
Up B: Super Adapter
-Mega Man and Rush combine and he gains a Jet Pack
Quartercircle Forward B: Hadoken
-It's not nearly as powerful as the Hadoken in Mega Man X, though.
Dragon Punch B: Shoryuken
-It's not nearly as powerful as the Shoryuken in Mega Man X2, though.

Lloyd Irving
I've always wanted to see him in a smash bros game.
B Demon Fang
Up B Tiger Blade
Down B Hurricane Thrust
Side B Sword Rain
His A moves would just be similar to his A moves in Symphonia. Due to the battle system in Symphonia, it would be pretty easy. I always like new third party support in the Smash series.

play super smash flash on one more level.com. it has mega man and Lloyd.

That's not an official game. Besides, we're talking about SSB4 here, not online fan games.

Originally Posted by electricut

play super smash flash on one more level.com. it has mega man and Lloyd.

I guess you have to unlock lloyd?

I'm not saying it's official, just the it might be worth playing 'cause of all the awesome characters in it. anyway, some final fantsy: crystal chronicles characters would be nice.

and yeah, you unlock him.

I say megaman or zero should be character.

Zero, should be in it too. Also, I wante them to add more than one pokemon trainer. in fact, I want them to add on for each generation, each one with the starters of its generation. I realize that this is a lot to ask but I'm sure the Idea is not so bad. The movesets shouldn't end up being so similar.

Originally Posted by electricut

play super smash flash on one more level.com. it has mega man and Lloyd.

It's a cute game, but the whole point of fantasizing about Super Smash Brothers 4 is that SSB4 will be a polished gaming experience with all of the physics we're used to.

Originally Posted by Ty

Lloyd Irving
I've always wanted to see him in a smash bros game.
B Demon Fang
Up B Tiger Blade
Down B Hurricane Thrust
Side B Sword Rain
His A moves would just be similar to his A moves in Symphonia. Due to the battle system in Symphonia, it would be pretty easy. I always like new third party support in the Smash series.

=LLOYD IRVING=
-Does very tiny damage per hit, but can do large combos and do...moderate damage.
-Medium-light weight, medium mostly everything, but he is fairly quick on his feet.
-He has only a couple of kill moves, so Lloyd often has to "hard kill" enemies, meaning he hits them in such a way that they have no way of recovering.
-Lloyd has amazing recovery, so often-times, the opponent has to hard kill him.

Character Quirks
-Shield is not like other Smashers. Lloyd holds up his sword like he blocks in Symphonia. He takes 1% damage from all attacks, but can block indefinitely but only from the front and is vulnerable from the front and back.
-Has only one jump
-Has a very limited aerial moveset
-Has fairly limited aerial movement
-His attacks link into each other. You can link 3 normal attacks and then 3 smash attacks and special attacks into each other, and depending on which one comes next, the smash attack and special attacks change.
-Specials change in the air (Smash attacks can't be used in the air)
-Has a Tech Point meter underneath his percentage. Every smash and special attack uses 1/4 of the bar. Lloyd regenerates TP over time.
-Back roll is very fast, but forward roll (he sort of jumps over a small distance) is a bit slow.

Character Moveset
-His A attacks are exactly like his Symphonia moves. They are usually performed in combos of 3. Holding A will make Lloyd run up to the closest enemy and attack them, as if you were playing in Automatic mode.
-He only has two attacks in the air
Forward Smash: Sonic Thrust
-L1: Sonic Thrust
-L2: Supersonic Thrust
Down Smash: Sword Rain
-L1: Sword Rain
-L2: Sword Rain: Alpha
-L3: Sword Rain: Beta
Up Smash: Tiger Blade
-L1: Tiger Blade
-L2: Tiger Rage
Neutral B: Demon Fang
-If Lloyd is in the air, he throws the Demon Fangs downward. This gives him a boost upward.
-L1: Demon Fang
-L2: Double Demon Fang
-L3: Demonic Chaos
-Forward B: Tempest
-L1: Tempest
-L2: Omega Tempest
Down B: Beast
-Raging Beast should be Lloyd's primary kill move. It acts like Yoshi's hip drop in the air.
-L1: Beast
-L2: Raging Beast
Up B: Rising Falcon
-This move, being L3, can come at the end of most combos. To recover, Lloyd can go Demon Fang -> Omega Tempest -> Rising Falcon, or he can go Tempest -> Double Demon Fang -> Rising Falcon
-L3: Rising Falcon
Throws: Team Attack
-When you "grab" an enemy, you freeze them, and then you have a short amount of time to call in one of your allies.
-Pressing just A will make Sheena come in and use Demon Seal
-Pressing forward will make Presea come in and use Deadly Destruction
-Pressing down will make Genis appear and use Thunder Blade
-Pressing up will make Zelos appear and use Light Spear
-Pressing back will make Regal appear and use Mirage
-Pressing B will make Raine appear and use Photon
Final Smash: Judgment
-Collete appears and uses Judgment
(For those of you wondering where Kratos is, he would be Lloyd's Assist Trophy).

Isaac is all I ask for.

Should have powerful earth-based psynergy in both A and B moves, combined with swordplay, he could also use Djinn.

I would rather die (not really) before seeing Charizard being replaced by Infernape, all fourth generation Pokemon suck.

agreed. I mean, half the third generation ones sucked. nintendo should've taken the hint.

Wow, Battler, you went all out there. Nice, I like it!
The only thing I would like changed if he were to be put in the game, is his final smash. I think it would be better suited if it were Falcon Crest.

Originally Posted by Crystal

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Infernape would be an awesome replacement for Charizard. Charizard wasn't that great of a character anyway. Infernape would be fast, do some damage (he wouldn't be a powerhouse though, nor heavy), and maybe have decent recovery.

Standard B: Mach Punch/Fire Punch (either could work, though Mach Punch would make more sense)
Side B: Flame Wheel
Up B: Rock Climb
Down B: Switch Pokemon (obviously lol)
Final Smash: Triple Finish, obviously. XD

Infernape's A moves would be comprised of his awesome fighting and karate style. :3

I guess I'll list the quirks Infernape would/could have too.

- Infernape can control Flame Wheel's direction, allowing him to go up down, sideways or any which way with it, but for a limited time. Makes for good recovery, perhaps.
- Won't last as long in water as other characters for obvious reasons
- He's not heavy, so he'd be easier to KO than some other characters.
- Fairly limited aerial movement
- Only one or no meteor smashes (down aerial would probably be one if any at all)
- Fast runner, slow walker
- Good jumper since he's a monkey, haha
- Is defenseless after using Rock Climb

Stats
Power: ***
Speed: ****
Weight: **
KO Ability: ***
KO Difficulty (how easy it is to KO him): **

Infernape would probably be a middle weight, but not quite as heavy as characters like Link and such. I mean look at him lol.

Originally Posted by Ty

Wow, Battler, you went all out there. Nice, I like it!
The only thing I would like changed if he were to be put in the game, is his final smash. I think it would be better suited if it were Falcon Crest.

Er, you know what, I sort of made a mistake and forgot to say

"Hey man, I have a Lloyd Irving moveset, too. I don't think he'll ever be in Smash 4, but I think you'll like my moveset"

But uh, yeah thank you. I wanted to make Lloyd's Final Smash the Falcon's Crest, but all the official artwork of him shows him using swords that aren't the Material Blade. And he needs the Material Blade in order to use the Falcon's Crest. And I wanted Collette in there, somehow.

Although what would be a really cool effect would be for Lloyd to "equip" the Material Blades when he breaks a Smash Ball, and then it would make sense for him to use Falcon's Crest.

And if you think that's "all out," ha ha, I have a very in-depth character description and moveset. Here, I'll post Lloyd's in-depth moveset:

========================LLOYD IRVING========================
Character Theme:
Emblem:
Entrance: Rheiards
-A Rheiard flies in and Lloyd jumps off and lands onto the stage.

1: Lloyd Irving
-Red shirt, white accents, black pants, brown belts and suspenders, brown hair.
2: Lloyd Wilder? (RED TEAM)
-Pink shirt, white accents, white pants, black belts and suspenders, red hair
3: Lloyd Sage? (BLUE TEAM)
-Blue shirt, white accents, blue pants, brown belts and suspenders, white hair
4: Noishe Irving? (GREEN TEAM)
-White shirt, green accents, white pants, green belts and suspenders, green hair
5: Cress Alving?
-White shirt, orange accents, black pants, brown belts and suspenders, yellow hair
6: Dad
-Purple shirt, light purple accents, purple pants, light purple belts and suspenders, dark red hair
7: Yggdrassil
-White shirt, golden accents, white pants, golden belts and suspenders, yellow hair
8: Emil
-Blue shirt, golden accents, black pants, black belts and suspenders, yellow hair

Alternate Costume 1: Aargh, Me Hearties
Alternate Costume 2: Nobleman
Alternate Costume 3: Beach Boy
Alternate Costume 1: Musou no Mousha

Equipment 1
Equipment 2
Equipment 3

Character Statistical Description:

Character Specific Mechanics:

Techs
-Lloyd's Smash and Special attacks are marked with levels
-Lloyd can link his attacks by level. He can start with a lower level, then he can link attacks by higher level.
-Certain attacks change depending on what order they are used. For example, Tiger Blade will become Tiger Rage if it is used second.
Limit
-If Lloyd gets to over 120%, then he activates his limit. For about 5 seconds, Lloyd has super armor.

Character Inputs:

Standing:
Walking:
Running:

Crouch:
-Lloyd reduces his height by about half.
Crawl: None

Jump:
-Lloyd has only ONE JUMP
-OH NO

Glide: None
Wall Jump: None
Wall Cling: None

Ledge Grab:
-Lloyd has a slightly harder time grabbing the ledge than others. His grab reach is lessened, due to carrying two swords.
Tether: None

Shield:
-Lloyd holds his sword and fist up inverted, with his arm raised and pointing upward and forward. He takes 1% of damage from any attack to the front and no knockback, but is vulnerable from the back.
Sidestep: Guardian
-Lloyd uses Guardian, which protects him from any and all attack while keeping his position. This is very interesting compared to a sidestep, because enemies who hit him up close get pushed back, not the shielder.
-The con is that Guardian is a bit laggy at the end, so Lloyd needs to have great prediction to take advantage of pushing the enemy backward.
Roll Forward: Jump
-Lloyd jumps forward and, presumably, over his enemy for a forward roll. He cannot jump off the ledge doing this.
Roll Backward: Dash Back
-Lloyd's backward roll is VERY fast, and he moves a fair distance away.
-Lloyd jumps away backward with his sword up in defensive position.
Aerial Dodge:
-Unlike most of Lloyd's other movements, this is just plain average and similar to the majority of the Smash cast.

Swim:

Character Moveset:

Jab: Right Sword Swing, /%
Jabx2: Sword Spin, /%
Jabx3: None
Jab Hold: Semi-Auto, /%
-Lloyd runs up to the closest enemy and begins to perform his Jab combo
Jab Multi: None

Over Tilt: Left Heavy Slash In, /%
Over Tilt 2: Right Sword Swing, /%
Over Tilt 3: Left Heavy Slash Out, /%
Downward Tilt: Sword Stab, /%
Downward Tilt 2: Right Sword Swing
Downward Tilt 3: Sword Stab
Upward Tilt: Jumping Upward Swing, /%
Running Tilt: Left Heavy Slash, /%
Running Tilt 2: Right Sword Swing, /%
Running Tilt 3: Left Heavy Slash Out, /%

Over Smash: Sonic Thrust, /%
Over Smash (L2): Supersonic Thurst, /%
Downward Smash: Sword Rain, /%
Downward Smash (Lv2): Sword Rain: Alpha, /%
Downward Smash (Lv3): Sword Rain: Beta, /%
Upward Smash: Tiger Blade, /%
Upward Smash (Lv2): Tiger Rage, /%

Neutral Aerial: Horizontal Swing, /%
Neutral Aerial 2: Vertical Swing, /%
Forward Aerial: None
Downward Aerial: None
Backward Aerial: None
Upward Aerial: None

Grab: Unison Attack
-Lloyd swings both his swords at the opponent, and freezes himself and the opponent for about 2 seconds
Pummel: Call In Sheena, /%
-Sheena jumps in, and then performs Demon Seal, knocking the enemy at a forward and low trajectory.
Forward Throw: Call In Presea, /%
-Presea appears and performs
Downward Throw: Call In Genis, /%
-Genis appears and uses Thunder Blade.
Backward Throw: Call in Regal, /%
-Regal appears and performs Mirage, moving forward in front of them, then doing a spinning backward kick, sending them flying.
Upward Throw: Call in Zelos, /%
-Zelos appears and performs Victory Light Spear.
Special Throw: Call In Raine, /%
-Raine appears and performs Photon the opponent.

Ledge Attack: , /%
Danger Ledge: , /%

Neutral Special: Demon Fang, /%
-Lloyd slashes from the ground up, releasing a wave of energy forward that travels along the ground for a very long distance at medium speed.
-In the air, Lloyd fires it downward, giving him a boost upward about equal to his jump
Neutral Special (Lv2): Double Demon Fang, /%
Neutral Special (Lv3): Demonic Chaos, /%
Over Special: Tempest, /%
Over Special (Lv2): Omega Tempest, /%
Downward Special: Beast, /%
Downward Special (Lv3): Raging Beast, /%
Upward Special (Lv3): Rising Falcon, /%

Neutral Smash Special: None, /%
Over Smash Special: None, /%
Downward Smash Special: None, /%
Upward Smash Special: None, /%

Final Smash: Holy Judgment
-Collete appears and performs Holy Judgment, while Lloyd is free to attack.

Character Taunts:

Over Taunt: I'll give you my name...
-Lloyd stands still and points his right sword forward saying "I'll give you my name if you give me your's."
-Lloyd is immune to all damage and knockback while saying this.
-This taunt can cancel into itself.
-However, if the opponent taunts while he taunts, then he will take 15% damage and good knockback.
[b]Downward Taunt:</b]
Upward Taunt:
Special Taunt: Taunt
-Er, Lloyd performs his "Taunt" that he does in Tales of Symphonia, the one that activates when you have the EX Skill Taunt.

Victory Taunt 1:
Victory Taunt 2:
Victory Taunt 3:
Victory Taunt 4:
Special Victory Taunt:

Yeah, that's a good point. And really, It wouldn't make sense if he had the material blade. Though, if his final smash were to use someone else, I would rather it be Genis and Indignation Judgement since its definately the best move in the game.

I have someone in mind....

Simon Belmont

B special moves would be:

Neutral: Throwing Dagger
Left or Right: Cross
Down: Holy Water
Up: Uses his whip to grap ledges. (similar to ZSS)

Almost all "A" and Smash attacks would use the whip. (maybe a few jump kicks)

Final Smash: The whip would transform into the Morning Star chain whip, akin to the old Castlevania games. Pulsing with energy it would deal massive damage. One drawback would be that Simon would only be able swing it straight ahead.

Costumes

default: His traditional warrior garb that he wore in the first Castlevania
2nd: The red and gold armor from "Simon's Quest"
3: The blue armor he wore in "Super Castlevania"
4: his black costume and red hair from "Castlevania Chronicles"

Nintendog
-This moveset stems from a challenge given to me by a user on GameFAQs. I'm down for any moveset challenges if ya'll have one. I've done them all: Mega Man, Nintendog, Crono, Sukapon, Hello Kitty...
-He would probably be the lightest character, but he takes -2% damage from all attacks. In fact, some attacks do no damage to Nintendog. However, Mario's uncharged, fresh forward smash would OHKO Nintendog from the middle of Final Destination at 60%.
-He is also the smallest character in the game, and many attacks simply fly over his head.
-Damage-wise, Nintendog would do a medium amount of damage compared to other characters.
-His recovery is pretty good.
-He would be a ground based character.
-Nintendog would be very quick on his/her feet.
-Matches with Nintendog would be a bit drawn out, as Nintendog has many tricks to do damage on the enemy, and he can recover health and takes less damage from attacks.

=Character Quirks=
-Can crawl
-Can wall cling, but slides down when they cling
-Can wall jump
-Has only one jump
-Nintendog has a million "costumes," which are basically the different breeds one can unlock in the Nintendog games.
-Having Nintendog for a total of 4 seconds (just having him walk around the stage) will refresh his attacks, so that they do full damage and knockback again. When he completes the 4 second total, he will briefly wag his tail very quickly.

=Character Moveset=
-To grab enemies, Nintendog plafully bites an enemy's arm and the opponent has a special animation for his grab; they try to swat him off and shake their arms intensely.
-Nintendog has a variety of biting and pawing moves. Many of his moves do only a bit of knockback, so that he can perform combos fairly well. But all of his moves have a playful edge to them.
Neutral Special: Pet
-Hold the B button to make a hand appear over Nintendog's head.
-Use the control stick to move the hand around on Nintendog's body to pet him/her.
-Petting him recovers health. The longer and slower the strokes, the more health he recovers.
Forward Special: Bark
-Nintendo barks. This is basically the same as Mewtwo's downward special in Melee.
-The bark can also reflect projectiles, so I guess you could say it's a combination of Mewtwo's downward and forward specials in Melee. But the bark would make projectiles do damage to enemies.
Downward Special: Dig
-Nintendog will dig in the ground and create a hole in the ground, similar to a pitfall. Anyone who jumps in will be stuck for a short amount of time. Nintendog can only have one pitfall at a time.
Upward Special: Disc Throw
-Hold B and Up to make a hand appear over Nintendog's head.
-Releasing B will throw the Disc.
-Using the control stick will allow you to aim the disc and throw it in an arc.
-Nintendog will jump after the disc and bite it.
-In the air, Nintendo can perform his move over and over and over, but he begins to fall faster and faster every time it's used.
-The disc does damage and passes through enemies, and Nintendog's face does damage and knockback to enemies.

Thankfully, I made a post in an SSB character thread in the Clan areas, so I can just copy the post in there. This character is from the manga series, Claymore.

Originally Posted by Kami Tsurugi

Clare!

Down B: Charge Yoki: She charges Yoki in different each individual limb (Yoki is the demon energy found in Yoma, Claymores, and Awakened Beings in the manga, Claymore) until they awaken (turn into a monster form). Both her legs awaken at once, just like in the manga, then her left arm, ending with her right arm, but there is a way to cause the right arm to awaken early. As she uses more Yoki, her attacks get stronger. This is what she looks like when she's awakened all her limbs:

Obviously, it's the woman, not the lion guy.

Also Note: When she has fully awakened, press Down B again and either her comrades Jean or Galatea will come in and use a technique learned in Volume 7 that will reverse Clare's awakened state and bring her back to normal. You may want to do this because her speed when her legs are awakened should rival Super Sonic.

Neutral B: Windcutter: She uses makes a 360 degree slash all around her at an incredible speed. You won't even see her draw.

Side B: Quick Sword: She will focus Yoki into her right arm, then do a move similar to when Link would do his neutral A combo and start stabbing at the enemy in SSB and SSBM only with more power and much faster. She can also move while doing this. Doing this enough times or maintaining it for a long time will cause the right arm to awaken prematurely

Up B: Mega Jump: A piece of debris will randomly appear under her and she will kick off the debris while releasing Yoki into her legs. Not so much thought into this one. It was either that, or have one of her comrades suddenly appear and toss her up.


Final Smash: Claymore Special: Each Claymore that has a signature attack will come up to the enemy, which will be frozen in place, and perform that special attack. The last one will cause the enemy to go flying, possibly breaking walls if the stage is one of those custom stages that is basically a box.

Originally Posted by Kami Tsurugi

Thankfully, I made a post in an SSB character thread in the Clan areas, so I can just copy the post in there. This character is from the manga series, Claymore.

Then we might as well add Astro Boy, Haruhi Suzumiya*, Goku and mother ****in' Sailor Moon in ****in Super Smash Bros. 4. I mean, I am very sure they are own by Nintendo and have first appeared in a video game.


*Oh wait...



Don't get too ****in' happy. She's bottom (F) tier. I played against her (level 9)with Gannondorf and I slaughtered her despite he's not even my main. Then, to be fair, I played as her against Meta Knight and Snake. She is horrible.

Anyways, at this point, I don't know if there ever be a Super Smash Bros. 4. I mean, they gave us orchestra music, 30+ characters including Solid Snake, Haruhi, and Sonic, third party help and the works. What else you want from The Smash Bros. Series.