SSBB Boring after Subspace Emissary

Originally Posted by Jeff

They're not glitches.

Yeah, wavedashing is so an intentional gimmick.

Ironically, it's also semi-possible in Brawl, through a different glitch.

HNNNNNG.

Wavedashing is NOT a glitch.

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I have also seen Fox fall through the center of Pokemon Stadium. The floors are supposed to be solid surfaces.

A glitch violates the physics in a way the software never intended.

If any character air dodges into the ground, he or she will slide along the ground ... The wavedash is a particular variation of this slide. ... It consists of three parts: jumping, air dodging, and sliding. If you examine each component individually, it should be quite apparent that all three were clearly intended physics of the game.

Originally Posted by man_with_taboo

I mean, wavedashing was discovered a few months after Melee came out.

No it wasn't. Melee didn't even have a proper competitive scene until several years after its release, and even then wavedashing wasn't discovered right away, and even then wasn't even widely known/used until around a year after that.

Originally Posted by Mirren

There's nothing as game-breaking as Wavedashes in Brawl, that's why there's hasn't been massive use of one specific technique.

Hmm, I don't think wavedashing is as dominating in Melee as you think, few characters find it useful and fewer need it. The really really dominating Melee tech is SHFFLing, if anything. Every character absolutely needs this at high level play. Wavedashing probably was the one thing that changed the game the most, though.

Originally Posted by Mattsy

Melee's was fast (this is where people get confused, because Brawl's physics are slow, and Melee's fast).

(Yes, I'm a tourneyfag arrrgh get away the light it burns)

No, Melee's metagame was not fast (geez, if anything, Brawl's is much much faster, Melee's barely ever moves and was really slow when it did consistently, the competitive scene was really small for almost half its life [see response above]). Actually I find it pretty humorous; Brawl has a fast(-ish?) metagame but slow gameplay, while Melee has/had a slow metagame but fast gameplay.

And no, you're not a tourneyfag. Actually attend a meet or a tourney or something before claiming so plz.

Originally Posted by The Goron Moron

Part of my reasoning is that sometimes the controls are 'out of reach' (I play on the GCN controller. Shield and C stick feel out of reach.) or because I cannot react fast enough to execute things. SSBB is a fast metagame.

The metagame doesn't mean what you think. It's defined by the techniques and playstyles used at high level play; the speed of the metagame's movement is based on emerging techniques and playstyles and how much they affect high level play. More techniques and playstyles emerging faster and affecting high level play = fast metagame. No/few new techniques or styles = slow metagame.

The awesomeness of the GCN controller is an argument for another day. To sum it up, though, the GCN controller is absolutely perfect in every way and you suck at videogames.

Originally Posted by The Goron Moron

everyone here is hardcore

LOL. No. The majority of people here are casualfag scrubs who like to think they're good and whine about everything, especially Stony. LOL GUISE ONLINE MATTERS AMIRITE.



Oh, by the way, EzloSpirit, you're seriously missing out. There's a whole new world of multiplayer gaming awaiting you if you think the Subspace Emissary is it. I've been playing just the regular Brawl mode every day since the game's release over a year ago now, and am far from being bored by it; if anything, I feel like I'm just starting. That's probably more hardcore/tourneyfaggish (lol) than most players, but hot damn it's awesome.

I can see why the GCN is perfect and frankly, I can agree with that. Maybe I am just holding it differently.

And according to the world, yes I do suck at videogames. Thank you for noticing.

lol yeah, that part was mostly in jest, don't take it too personally. The GCN controller is ****ing perfect though, there will never ever be a game controller better than it, at least not one that can be used for all game types.

Originally Posted by e_alert

lol yeah, that part was mostly in jest, don't take it too personally. The GCN controller is ****ing perfect though, there will never ever be a game controller better than it, at least not one that can be used for all game types.

No no no. Jest or not, it is true.

If I fail at Brawl, then it means I fail at videogames in general. Or at least it seems like that to me.

Hahah, nah, I have an uncle who is absolutely horrendous at Brawl, but for some reason he can handle Mario Kart Wii quite well.

Both games played with the GC controller, mind you.

Originally Posted by Abyss Master

Hahah, nah, I have an uncle who is absolutely horrendous at Brawl, but for some reason he can handle Mario Kart Wii quite well.

Both games played with the GC controller, mind you.

*Sigh* Maybe I am your uncle...

Except I don't own Mario Kart Wii, but I have many other Mario Karts...

Originally Posted by EA

No, Melee's metagame was not fast (geez, if anything, Brawl's is much much faster, Melee's barely ever moves and was really slow when it did consistently, the competitive scene was really small for almost half its life [see response above]). Actually I find it pretty humorous; Brawl has a fast(-ish?) metagame but slow gameplay, while Melee has/had a slow metagame but fast gameplay.

And no, you're not a tourneyfag. Actually attend a meet or a tourney or something before claiming so plz.

I meant the stop having fun guy but thanks for going seriuz buzniz on my ass :>

Originally Posted by The Goron Moron

I can see why the GCN is perfect and frankly, I can agree with that. Maybe I am just holding it differently.

And according to the world, yes I do suck at videogames. Thank you for noticing.

As you can see, this is widely considered the proper way to hold a gamecube controller. Your left index finger is already RESTING on the shield button, and the c-stick is just as easy to use as any of the buttons are around the right thumb. It's pretty easy and simple to use, and there is really no excuse, or reason, to say the shield button and c-stick feel out of reach. Even with small hands, holding it this way makes everything easy. The only other "rumored" way to hold the controller is with the "claw technique", which is almost unusable with 90% of the games made for the gamecube. Meaning - this picture is how you hold a a gamecube controller. I have no idea how you could try to hold it any other way.

Sucking at brawl doesn't make you suck at videogames. I am a "ok" brawl player, but compared to the upper echelon, I am merely practice fodder. I don't suck, but I am not overly good at it either. Maybe you are no good at brawl: Ok then. I am sure you are good at something I am not good at, and vice versa.



On a last note: TGM - Grow some balls. I know your female and all, but you need to stand up for yourself. Stop just taking it and agreeing, and start telling people to f off. You will feel much better about yourself.

Originally posted by The Goron Moron
Yeah, wavedashing is so an intentional gimmick.

EA's post says otherwise, and he's right.

Originally posted by e_alert
Hmm, I don't think wavedashing is as dominating in Melee as you think, few characters find it useful and fewer need it. The really really dominating Melee tech is SHFFLing, if anything. Every character absolutely needs this at high level play. Wavedashing probably was the one thing that changed the game the most, though.

Yeah, that's a much better way of putting it.

On the topic of me being right, I'd just like to add that Mario Kart Wii sucks.

Well, not to further get off topic, but I'm starting to feel the same way after playing Excitebots. It's what Mario Kart Wii should've been.

Originally Posted by e_alert

On the topic of me being right, I'd just like to add that Mario Kart Wii sucks.

Even then it's off-topic

But yeah, what they said.

Originally Posted by Lady Ranny

Oh yeah I forgot about event matches! I completed all of them already though...

Still, everything else is so much fun.

u didnt mention that awrd thing where you beat events and get an unlockable prize

Originally Posted by e_alert

lol yeah, that part was mostly in jest, don't take it too personally. The GCN controller is ****ing perfect though, there will never ever be a game controller better than it, at least not one that can be used for all game types.

Standard fighting games would like to have a word with that statement. That D-pad is absolutely awful, which makes it pretty bad for a normal directional input fighter like KoF or SF.

D-pad rules for Tekken.

I've had it for a year and I haven't even completed the subspace emissary. I actually find that boring lol.

I just play 4 player brawl against level 9's, and it never gets boring.

Originally Posted by Ven Strife

I've had it for a year and I haven't even completed the subspace emissary. I actually find that boring lol.

I just play 4 player brawl against level 9's, and it never gets boring.

I agree. I too find subspace kind of boring. Iprefer playing brawls with my friends. Never gets boring to me.

Subspace Emissary is just something Nintendo put in as a new, more "fun", way to get the characters. I found it pretty unique, but the majority of people who buy brawl play multiplayer against friends/CPUs or Online.

Originally Posted by Toon Flink

Subspace Emissary is just something Nintendo put in as a new, more "fun", way to get the characters. I found it pretty unique

Unique? Nah.


Still pretty fun tho.