Japanese Brawl Tier List

S:MetaKnight,Snake,Falco
A:R.O.B,Diddy,Marth,Pit,Fox
B:Mr. Game & Watch,Wolf,Toon Link
C:Ice Climbers,Olimar,Sheik,Zero Suit Samus,Pikachu,Lucario
D:Kirby,King Dedede,Mario,Lucas,Wario,Charizard
E:Zelda,Ike,Donkey Kong,Ness,Link,Luigi,Yoshi,Pokemon Trainer,Squirtle,Ivysaur
F:Sonic,Bowser,Samus,Captain Falcon,Jigglypuff,Peach
G:Ganondorf

Wow, this is different from our tier list. I have way more nitpicks about this list than our American list.

Discuss.

lol at fawks.

Nobody likes Ganondorf, for obvious reasons.

Meh I may still main Ganondorf just to give myself a challenge. =P I like challenging myself.

lol at G&W.

Originally Posted by Linkey

lol at G&W.

G&W is high tier. On every list.

but yeah, this list sucks. Fox above wolf? shiek over toon Link?

DeDeDe in the mid?

what the hell are they doing over there? This list is terrible.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

G&W is high tier. On every list.

He's too low on this one.

I expected no less from Metaknight and Snake (duh).

Dedede should be higher, and the same goes for Game & Watch.

I feel that they assume too little of Wario as well.

Why does Charizard get his own special slot away from the other two pokemon?

And also:

Originally Posted by Alucard777

lol at fawks.

Yoshi should be in S or A

Originally Posted by Lord Golbez

S:MetaKnight,Snake,Falco

*sneezes*

Japanese players don't play to win, they play for show.

Example. It looks like these guys are ****ing amazing, but if you notice they both rarely use their shields at all, and shields are possibly more important than attacks.

Explains why Dedede is so low, his style is Chain-Grabbing and Back airing off the stage

When you play like that, you don't need to shield. They both barely stayed on the ground long enough for it to matter. I need to play like that Fawks. Mmm, I can taste the Melee.

Originally Posted by linkey

He's too low on this one.

I just looked again. Yeah, he is. It took my five minutes to realize that G&W was better than fox.

Originally Posted by Toon Flink

Explains why Dedede is so low, his style is Chain-Grabbing and Back airing off the stage

Throws are why d3 is so good.

throws.

Bair.

Side b.

All you need to know with d3 for the most part.

It's hilarious that they seem to think that Zamus is better.

btw, golbez, where did you find this list?

Originally Posted by Alucard777

When you play like that, you don't need to shield. They both barely stayed on the ground long enough for it to matter. I need to play like that Fawks. Mmm, I can taste the Melee.

That match was great. I laughed at the consecutively successful N-airs on Fox's part. That move is easily shield thrown.

Originally Posted by Twilight Kitty

Yoshi should be in S or A

Naaa!

Originally Posted by Lord Golbez

Wow, this is different from our tier list. I have way more nitpicks about this list than our American list.

Hehe. Well, you have to remember that the Japanese play with a single character in their tournies, so there's a tendency for players to learn only ONE character; therefore, the metagame evolves differently for them as it does for us. What makes sense to you might not make sense (or even apply) in Japanese Smash.

That said, you guys may be right for all I know. I don't generally make a point of keeping up with the metagame, instead focusing on my characters only, so I don't generally know how accurate tier lists are; I just trust that those making them know what they're doing.

However, it's something to think about.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

I just looked again. Yeah, he is. It took my five minutes to realize that G&W was better than fox.




Throws are why d3 is so good.

throws.

Bair.

Side b.

All you need to know with d3 for the most part.

It's hilarious that they seem to think that Zamus is better.

btw, golbez, where did you find this list?



That match was great. I laughed at the consecutively successful N-airs on Fox's part. That move is easily shield thrown.

Someone posted in on Smashboards. No one said it was wrong so I posted it here.

Japanese Fox vids and tier list! - Smash World Forums

Japanese players are way more aggressive and flashy than we are. Characters that take more patience (Ganondorf, Bowser, Samus) and spacing (Peach) to use aren't favored in Japan. This is why Sheik and Fox rank so highly over there. American are way more campy, so we view the list differently.

Character's like Peach are easily high tier IMO, and Ganondorf is also better than we give him credit for.

We're campy because brawl is campy. I've watched Japanese videos, they really don't do anything spectacular with any of those characters that I haven't seen stateside.

I've noticed more players on ZU using Yoshi, and those people are quite good with him (Shadow Seeker, xlr8, and Verxis just to name a few). In fact they seem better with him than with other characters, which is why it's surprising to me that he's not higher up.

I'm guessing that some people in some countries play very differently then us, and thus the list is very... different?

Where did you get this list anyway?
Edit: Nevermind.

Originally posted by Lord Golbez
Character's like Peach are easily high tier IMO, and Ganondorf is also better than we give him credit for.

Based on if they do actually play for show more, it would make sense that Ganon's at the bottom. He's not the kinda guy you use to make a flashy fight; he's the guy you look for three or four single hits with and get the KO.

I hear he's moving up in the tiers for America, though, which makes me happy. I still love using him.