Official SSBB Tier List

Originally Posted by Lord_Insizor

Does anyone main Sonic here? So many players online play him, and they always fail. All this hype about him being in it was short lived I suppose.

I somewhat main Sonic. Like I know how to use him pretty good, and I put up good fights with him. Yea he's probably the crappiest KO'er in the roster, but I manage to keep up with my oponents.

Well, he leaves a lot of room for the player to create mindgames (i.e. with the bite). His air maneuverability is very good, allowing him to time and control his aerial attacks with perfection. He also has several combos with one of his most spammable move: Dair. He also has his good killing options, so he's good in that department. He is also great at punishing opponent mistakes by using bite or a simple Fsmash.

His tourney results also reflect how good he is :3

Toon Link should be close though, he has the tools to make it higher.

Are the characters withing the tiers in any specific order or is it just more or less arbitrary?

Originally Posted by Sailboat

Are the characters withing the tiers in any specific order or is it just more or less arbitrary?

The order is more significant (and heavily debated) up near the top. As you descend, the order matters less and less.

Toon Link and Ike must advance. Bowser must go down!

Apart from those, I mostly agree.

Originally Posted by TheBuzzSaw

The order is more significant (and heavily debated) up near the top. As you descend, the order matters less and less.

Great. Move Captain Falcon up a little. I don't see how he's that bad.

Originally Posted by CPU0

Toon Link and Ike must advance.

Very much agreed.

Originally Posted by Sailboat

Great. Move Captain Falcon up a little. I don't see how he's that bad.

Take him to a tournament.

Naw man, tournaments are kinda.... um...

for fags. Plus, I would never dare trying without my DeDeDe, Peach or Ice Climbers. I'm WAY better with those guys.

Originally Posted by Sailboat

Naw man, tournaments are kinda.... um... for fags.

Then why do you care about the tier list?

Hey man, Falcon has some positive qualities. If someone's good enough with him, they have a degree of potential to take on anyone.

Originally Posted by Sapphire dragon

Silly Golbez, tiers are for queers!

I WANTED TO SAY THAT!

At least I know we think alike.

Originally Posted by Sapphire dragon

What are your reasons for saying that Wario's better?

I personally like his power. His range is bad, but if you're fast enough, that shouldn't matter. It seems most of the top tier characters are balanced, while the others have some insanely good qualities, yet horrible drawbacks. My guess is that most people don't bother to try and practice to compensate for that, and pass those characters off as bad ones.

Personally, I HATE balanced characters. Nothing special about them, nothing outstanding that can be used as an advantage in battle.

Originally Posted by Lord_Insizor

Does anyone main Sonic here? So many players online play him, and they always fail. All this hype about him being in it was short lived I suppose.

I use Sonic a lot. Partly because I grew up loving him (clear your minds). He's fast, but his range is horrible and I can't seem to knock anybody more then 5 meters with a Smash attack. I know I sound hypocritical to what I wrote above, but I think there are things that certain people cannot compensate for, while other people can (and vice-versa). I can't compensate for a lack of power. Someone else might not be able to compensate for a lack of speed, therefore they need a fast character, and can somehow compensate for bad power where I can't.

Originally Posted by TheBuzzSaw

Then why do you care about the tier list?

Because it's just something that's cool to know. I like playing the game, I play it a lot and I'm fairly good, but since I don't own a Wii I just like to know where the characters I use stand. I don't even see why they matter, I just like to know them.

Originally Posted by Jeff

Hey man, Falcon has some positive qualities. If someone's good enough with him, they have a degree of potential to take on anyone.

Yup. That's noted in the disclaimer to the list. The tier list is not some omniscient scroll of wisdom that will always predict the winner. It simply ranks how the characters rank competitively.

Yeah, that's why I especially don't like how a lot of people bash it as being some biased list when a lot of it is simply determined how well the characters do on the competitive scene.

I disagree to Link's placement. He's a bad character, however, not that bad. His fsmash, when both hit, does sick damage. He can arrow cancel for fast projectile damage rackup, and jabcancelling allows combos. He also can glidesmash and has a quite good edgeguard as long as you are careful.

Meh. Another tier that has absolutely no effect on me (except for those who are idiots and put me down because more than half of the players I use are from the middle down).

Originally Posted by Buzz

Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, but those opinions are all wrong until they start attending competitions (and winning).

*Sneezes*

Pardon me. I'm allergic to bull.

Originally Posted by WALL•E

Meh. Another tier that has absolutely no effect on me (except for those who are idiots and put me down because more than half of the players I use are from the middle down).



*Sneezes*

Pardon me. I'm allergic to bull.

Quit thinking everyone hates you because you use low tier characters. There's plenty of people that use low tiered characters. People are aggravated with you because you keep shoving your opinion down our throats.

Please read the disclaimer before you do anything else obnoxious.

At first, I was a little surprised that Toon Link wasn't placed higher.

On the other end, I'm surprised that Olimar is actually that high. He has excellent ground and pressure games, he has that annoying d-tilt, he can rack up damage pretty quickly, and he has great finishers. But so far, every Olimar user I've seen has been gimped/edgegaurded at fairly low percents.

Originally Posted by TheBuzzSaw

The order is more significant (and heavily debated) up near the top. As you descend, the order matters less and less.

Metaknight at the top? How "public" (I honestly can't think of a better word at the moment) is this list? Does anyone know if this list on on more that just Smash World? It would certainly explain a few things for me. More and more people - both new and old, but mostly new - have been turning to Metaknight. Not that this is much of a surprise. But on several Brawl sites, I've seen huge influxes of people going to Metaknight because (and I partially quote) they want to win.

I'm surprised Snake didn't make the top spot. Also, the placement of Lucas and Ness surprised me--I thought that they had more potential than that.

But yeah, tiers. If you have a main who's middle- or low-tier, I know the temptation is to get flustered and try to defend that character. But really, it should be a badge of pride. Are you capable of consistently kicking the asses of the Meta Knights and Snakes out there with your Yoshi, Mario, Sonic, or Captain Falcon? Then you must be pretty damned good! Perhaps, in a way better than those who must main Snake, R.O.B., Falco, or Meta Knight.