Paper Zelda

..I accidentally voted no. My vote was actually yes. I like the concept and it would take us back to the 2D days.

Originally Posted by TheBattler

Have you even played the Paper Mario series or understand the premise?

Of course, I have both the original and TYD, and love them both. The premise is just standard RPG stuff. The styling was just to resemble the original mario RPG, but they took it a step further and made it the central theme resembling a pop-up book.

Originally Posted by Metropalis

i Ditto your opinion :p

you know why? well paper mario is 2d correct? so why the f*** would he even mention wind waker

Paper Mario was intentionally designed to be childish and cartoonish as it was made to resemble a pop up story book and plays on how mario rpg looked since it was played with an isometric viewpoint. The wind waker is also childish and cartoonish, but not because it follows a theme set by an older game in the series, but because they figured making the game look like an anime drawn by a retarded lemur would be just so much more awesome than styling it similar to TP or OoT. I know the fans of TWW will cry and piss, but The Wind Waker was crap. Even if it had a good story, the styling was ridiculous and embarrassing. Its basically what the Lord of the Rings would be like if it starred the teletubbies.

I think an RPG Zelda may be kind of cool, but I don't think the whole paper thing is cool.

I was thinking maybe something like Super Paper Mario in a Paper Mario World, take out Mario, add Link. ?

Originally Posted by UltraLight

NO! As cute as that would sound, Nintendo seriously needs to stop appealing to younger audiences. Keep the realistic art, please.

Paper Mario doens't just appeal to young kids.

Most young kids I know hardly know what Paper Mario is. If they do they don't posses the skills necessary to beat the games.

Originally Posted by Navi the Fairy

Most young kids I know hardly know what Paper Mario is. If they do they don't posses the skills necessary to beat the games.

Much less be able to read and appreciate its dialogue.

Yeah thank you Tonchiki.
A lot of kids I know don't even read video game dialogue anymore. Even my own brother who is 12 doesn't read anything. I can't watch him play games because he will simply skip all the words. He doesn't like me watching either because I always tell him to slow down so I can read it. 'tis a shame.

I'm sure if there was a Paper Zelda it would be a bit more challenging and deep then the Paper Mario titles we know... because it is still Zelda, right?

This thread made me start replaying The Thousand Year Door. I noticed something: the towns in that game actually have more depth than Twilight Princess. If the only way I can get great towns back is to play a Paper Zelda, then sign me up. It's fun to entertain the thought of running around as a paper Link in a paper world. I'm sure the music would be great: it would consist of classic Zelda tunes remixed in that distinct Paper Mario feel. I'm not sure how a Hyrule field would fair, but an entire field isn't needed for scope. The original Paper Mario's scale felt big to me, and that was simply because everything was connected; you could go any place by foot OR take the pipes. In a sense, Paper Mario's overworld was just a series of connected rooms. That's fine by me; it worked. I'm sure a Zelda could work that way, too.

I just don't think they'd be able to create a paper zelda and still keep the same zelda feel that we all know and love.... I think it would be the first stepping stone to ruining the zelda series.

But hey, I could be wrong, they could surprise me and it'd be awesome.

Originally Posted by Midna Fan

the first stepping stone to ruining the zelda series.

People said that about Wind Waker.

I think being really different is the only way they can save the Zelda series.
And really, wanting Nintendo to make a Paper Zelda game is unrealistic, but as for the idea itself, I'd be all for it (which is why I want to try making one). You can't deny that seeing the world of Zelda portrayed like Paper Mario would be incredibly interesting and fun.

Originally Posted by UltraLight

NO! As cute as that would sound, Nintendo seriously needs to stop appealing to younger audiences. Keep the realistic art, please.

I dunno, Wind Wakers Graphic style was more pleasing to my eyes.

Originally Posted by Protagonist

I dunno, Wind Wakers Graphic style was more pleasing to my eyes.

10-20 years down the road, that will definitely be true. Twilight Princess went for a more real (as close to real as Zelda gets) art style, and in doing so, made itself subject to dating faster. Wind Waker is very stylized; a look that could almost be called timeless. WW's cartoon look will keep a much longer appeal than TP's; already TP looks muddy and bland by comparison.

Same thing with the Paper Mario games. They contain timeless looks because of how unique they are. Hence why a Paper Zelda would turn me into a fanboy zombie.

I like WW AND TP graphics! Oh my god the worlds gonna implodify! Seriously though, both were good in their own rights. WWs whole atmosphere was kind of toony, not just the graphics. The story, characters, even the music were all toony. This gives the viewer/gamer the ability to have pure fun with the game, since it's not to serious they can somewhat distance themselves from it. Mind you that doesn't neccasarily mean Child orientated. Now, TP was the exact opposite, much like MM in a sense. It is a much more serious atmosphere. It drags you along emotionally with each scene, like a good drama movie.

Originally Posted by UltraLight

NO! As cute as that would sound, Nintendo seriously needs to stop appealing to younger audiences. Keep the realistic art, please.

well wind waker is a awesome game and it doesn't have realistic graphics,and I don't think that the graphics matter that much.the game play is what matters to me.

I accept:Mario has always been a much more flexible game than zelda. Mario has a formula much like the usual Zelda, save the damsel in distress ect. ect. ect. But Zelda has been somewhat rigid in terms of gameplay.

@UltraLight:

Why do people always associate a friendly and cute art style as being for children? I'd say Paper Mario is a more grown-up game than the traditional Mario games. Not only do you need to have some reading comprehension skills, but many of the jokes will only be humorous if you're at least 14+ years of age.

Another example is Conker's Bad Fur Day. I would never consciously lend this game to anyone under 17, despite it's deceiving art style. Their are few games that can match Conker's Bad Fur Day when it comes to adult humor. It even contains blood and gore, almost as bad as Gears of War.

Twilight Princess isn't any more "adult" than Wind Waker. All Zelda games are aimed at a general audience and none of them are "dark".

An art style is an art style, and not much more.

Originally Posted by Joe

@UltraLight:

Why do people always associate a friendly and cute art style as being for children? I'd say Paper Mario is a more grown-up game than the traditional Mario games. Not only do you need to have some reading comprehension skills, but many of the jokes will only be humorous if you're at least 14+ years of age.

Another example is Conker's Bad Fur Day. I would never consciously lend this game to anyone under 17, despite it's deceiving art style. Their are few games that can match Conker's Bad Fur Day when it comes to adult humor. It even contains blood and gore, almost as bad as Gears of War.

Twilight Princess isn't any more "adult" than Wind Waker. All Zelda games are aimed at a general audience and none of them are "dark".

An art style is an art style, and not much more.

You make a good point with Mario (though I don't really like the conkers comparisson to be honest). But I greatly disagree that none of the zelda games are dark. Majora's maskand TP both show great elements on deep thought and dark atmosphere, and that's a good thing. They make the game more enjoyable from a estetic point of view. Just becuase the games are general doesn't mean they all have the same universal light heartedness as WW.

Originally Posted by Abyss Master

You and I used to be a part of that younger audience.

In fact, if they hadn't catered to the young audience in the first place, I wouldn't be playing games today (most likely). I won't condemn Nintendo for allowing kids to play video games. Children could play the original LoZ, afterall.

They could not, however, play Mortal Kombat for the SNES.

I played Mortal Kombat for the SNES when I was not much older than seven. I am a perfectly respectable member of human society and have so far refrained from punching anybody's head off with their own fist. In fact, I found it more fun at the time than LoZ, which was much too confusingly directionless for me at that age (although, oddly, I really liked AoL...)