Theory as to why SSBB was boring after SSE

Originally Posted by TheBuzzSaw

I will consider answering that once you tell me what tactics "break" the game online.

Any practice that causes the game to become unbalanced.

Note that I accept that these games inherently have some lack of balance; but some of the ways people play only compound this.

I suppose if you don't have many, if any people to play with, then naturally, the game will begin to get boring upon completing SSE.

That being said, Brawl is still loads of fun, but then, I have a whole family to play with it, as well as Wi-Fi...

Originally Posted by Artemicion

Any practice that causes the game to become unbalanced.

Note that I accept that these games inherently have some lack of balance; but some of the ways people play only compound this.

Any practice that causes the game to become unbalanced??? Winning is naturally unbalanced. For there to be a winner, there has to be a loser. You answered too vaguely.

I hate it how people somehow idiotically equate playing to win as not having fun.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

I hate it how people somehow idiotically equate playing to win as not having fun.

Exactly.

Yup, I really suffer while winning. It is so depressing.

If the player is gonna spam 24/7, he should expect them to quit.

If my opponent is stupid enough to allow me to spam 24/7, I'm going to spam 24/7 until they stop being so stupid and stop me from doing so.

And some characters have like only one good attack. Like how Samus' ZAir is amazing, but the rest of her moveset is extremely lackluster; so I'm going to use that more than any other move most likely (I don't play Samus, though ).

And what is wrong at all with spamming? If your opponent is dumb enough to allow you to spam all match then it works. If your opponent stops ♥♥♥♥♥ing about you spamming and starts to actually stop you, then spamming mindlessly WILL NOT WORK.

In what way AT ALL is spamming even bad? Sure it might be boring to watch Falco SHDLing all match, but if it increases your chance of winning, then it would be absolutely stupid to NOT do that.

Any practice that causes the game to become unbalanced.

Like what? Selecting Meta Knight/Snake/Falco/Wario/D3/ICs? Be more specific please

In what way AT ALL is spamming even bad? Sure it might be boring to watch Falco SHDLing all match, but if it increases your chance of winning, then it would be absolutely stupid to NOT do that.

Why would winning in an online match matter? Its only for fun, and if my opponent or me spams, I really don't have any.

^Except it's almost impossible to win a match off of ONLY spamming one move, unless you're MK and win by DAir camping or planking for 8 minutes. Which most people will only do as a last resort (since it's incredibly boring).

The point of those lasers is to make you approach and limit options. If you approach, HE CAN'T SPAM LASERS WITHOUT GETTING PUNISHED.

Yeah. But even if I win easily in a match in wich the opponent only spammed, I didn't had any fun, and just wasted my time.

Except most people will stop mindlessly spamming when they realise that they're losing because of it. And if they don't they're just stupid opponents that you would have easily destroyed, anyway.

Originally Posted by Quin

Yeah. But even if I win easily in a match in wich the opponent only spammed, I didn't had any fun, and just wasted my time.

But how am I to gage whether you are having fun during a match? What if I don't spam but just play really well otherwise? I've had many players quit out on me just because they were losing. It's like, they only come online to win. That sure doesn't sound like "fun" to me.

Originally Posted by TheBuzzSaw

Because it's extremely selfish, obnoxious, and hypocritical. It wastes people's time.

I'm glad as more modern games come out, they implement penalties against players who quit out all the time.

Well, it's extremely selfish, obnoxious, and hypocritical to do nothing but spam as well.


People who do nothing but spam bother other people.
If you are going to bother somebody who got the game to have fun, they have the right to quit.
Most people don't have fun when you insult them by spamming.

Melee just had this..."feel" to it that made me love it so much. Brawl doesn't have this "feel" and I agree, Brawl got boring for me the day after I beat the SSE, even though I had friends to play with.

Maybe it's just that the fighting and action in Melee was so swift and fast and in Brawl is was so heavy and slow.

Maybe it's just that the fighting and action in Melee was so swift and fast and in Brawl is was so heavy and slow.

While Brawl does seem a tad slower, the main problem, at least for me, was the tripping.

Originally Posted by Tigerboi

It's a fighting game. Sounds like you're looking for fun in the wrong place.

Originally Posted by Hero Dude

Well, it's extremely selfish, obnoxious, and hypocritical to do nothing but spam as well.


People who do nothing but spam bother other people.
If you are going to bother somebody who got the game to have fun, they have the right to quit.
Most people don't have fun when you insult them by spamming.

Worst.

Post.


EVER.

Behold the analogy: A The Titans vs. Patriots.

The Patriots are winning by doing the same play over and over because the titans are too stupid to adapt or counter act it. The head coach sees that it's working so decides not to change strategies. BECAUSE IT'S WORKING.


Halfway through the game, the Titans get angry and leave the field.

You support this logic.

Well, it's extremely selfish, obnoxious, and hypocritical to do nothing but spam as well.


People who do nothing but spam bother other people.
If you are going to bother somebody who got the game to have fun, they have the right to quit.
Most people don't have fun when you insult them by spamming.

How is it selfish, obnoxious, and hypocritical?

It bothers me when I play someone so stupid that they don't even think to try and counteract my strategy, and even worse when they COMPLAIN about my strategy without even attempting to stop it themselves.

Well, it's extremely selfish, obnoxious, and hypocritical to do nothing but spam as well.


People who do nothing but spam bother other people.
If you are going to bother somebody who got the game to have fun, they have the right to quit.
Most people don't have fun when you insult them by spamming.

A tad? Melee: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfk2vgePkZs

Brawl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qNSUi-UNKw#movie_player

^*looks at above posts*
Wow. That train got derailed.

As responding to the original question, maybe the reason it's boring to play by yourself is because its a MULTI-PLAYER GAME intended for TEMPORARY AMUSEMENT.

You want to have fun with brawl, take your Wii to a random place that has a TV you can hook it up to. (along with 4 controllers)

try it. I did it at college.

anyhow,

they see me trolling
they lolzing
well da mods trying to catch me posting dirty

When I was single, I loved doing open searches for other players like that. The dorms are the best .^_^