Nocturnalism in Humans True , but curable?

Okay... I have all the symptoms of being a nocturnal Human.
You may think it's cool , but it's not.

It is not defined as a disease , ailment , or disorder , but rather , a natural occurrence like homosexuality.

My symptoms are:

I sleep in daytime.
Every time I try to correct my sleeping schedule , it doesn't work ,and I end up with like 3 days without sleep.
Energy drinks do not help me gain sleep after a few hours of wearing off.
Everything I try is useless.



I went to a website , and the website says that I have an internal clock.
This internal clock tells people when to sleep.
Mostlikely , everyone here has a day internal clock , but I have night internal clock.

Trying to correct this is like a daywalker trying to stay awake at night.

They say it's natural , and I cannot control it , because it's who I am.


Does anyone know of any such way to cure this?
or am I stuck like this the rest of my life?

BTW , I am going to bed soon , because it's passed my usual bedtime , which is around 10:00 in the morning.

Yours is 10:00 at night hahaha... damn I suck.

Move to a different timezone. Problem solved.

Thats not going to solve it.

A day walker that moves to an opposite timezone ,will correct his/her self to sleep at night just like he/she did in the old time zone.

However , my Nocturnalness can't be corrected.
If I moved to an opposite Timezone , my sleep will correct itself to be awake at night , and will not solve this issue.

Originally Posted by MagusAlexandros

Thats not going to solve it.

A day walker that moves to an opposite timezone ,will correct his/her self to sleep at night just like he/she did in the old time zone.

Only if they intentionally do so. Otherwise, they continue in their current schedule.

Dude, I've worked 3-cycle rotational shifts (8am-4pm one week, 4pm-12am next week, 12am-8am the week after), and had no problem sleeping. Your body adapts to new schedules easier than you think.

gradually change your bedtime and waking time by 5-10 minutes per week. Set goals for yourself, and dont give up. If you stop trying, you won't get better.

Originally Posted by MagusAlexandros

It is not defined as a disease , ailment , or disorder , but rather , a natural occurrence like homosexuality.

My father is the same way, only because he has to go to work at 1 AM and gets off at 9 AM. So no, it's not a natural occurence. Also, I highly doubt that you were going to sleep at 10 AM whilst you were/are in school. Highly doubtable.

Alsoalso, the last part of your quote is highly debatable. Try not to state theory as fact.

Doesn't this sound a little like the whole gay argument?

They say it's natural , and I cannot control it , because it's who I am.

Doesn't it?!

Thats what this is!

Hey , I am against Homosexuality.
Homosexuality is different than Nocturnalism.

Either way , they can be prayed away.

I should just pray my nocturnalism away =.=
but hey , it could work.
I just think there is an easier way of doing this , because I have little faith.

Jesus says that if I had the faith the size of a mustard seed , I could move a mountain , therefore he calls us people of little faith.
I don't think I could cure my nocturnalism , because I am not faithful enough.
It gets hard to believe in God in times like these.
It gets harder and harder to do things with God , because I keep going away from him.
I am religious , so please don't attack me.

Anyway... All irrelevant .

I really do have a nocturnal pattern. Go do research on "The Circadian Rhythm"
It could very well explain my problem to those who don't understand what I iz goin thru.

Yes , the last three words were mispelled.
And so was that last one before the last period.

HAHAHA I am tired. I need my beauty sleep.

Originally Posted by MagusAlexandros

Hey , I am against Homosexuality.
Homosexuality is different than Nocturnalism.

Either way , they can be prayed away.

I should just pray my nocturnalism away =.=
but hey , it could work.
I just think there is an easier way of doing this , because I have little faith.

Jesus says that if I had the faith the size of a mustard seed , I could move a mountain , therefore he calls us people of little faith.
I don't think I could cure my nocturnalism , because I am not faithful enough.
It gets hard to believe in God in times like these.
It gets harder and harder to do things with God , because I keep going away from him.
I am religious , so please don't attack me.

Anyway... All irrelevant .

I really do have a nocturnal pattern. Go do research on "The Circadian Rhythm"
It could very well explain my problem to those who don't understand what I iz goin thru.

Yes , the last three words were mispelled.
And so was that last one before the last period.

HAHAHA I am tired. I need my beauty sleep.

You may against homosexuality, but when you try and argue that nocturnalism is natural, doesn't that go against the norm like being gay? Being Gay is natural but you find it bad, yet being nocturnal is okay amirite?

Prayed away?! Jeese I'm just gonna go pray away my dead dog or limp dick(examples XD). Praying solves everything! Jebus Cripes people.

Originally Posted by MagusAlexandros

Hey , I am against Homosexuality.
Homosexuality is different than Nocturnalism.

Either way , they can be prayed away.

Will you take offense if I call you a nocturnal vegetable? That statement, you see, is about as educated. You, and people like you, who reduce sexual orientation to a simple choice, a character issue, a bad habit or something that can be changed by a 10-step program or "prayed away", I'm puzzled. Are you saying that your own sexual orientation is nothing more than something you have chosen, that you could change it at will? Why do you expect that out of me?

Originally Posted by MagusAlexandros

Hey , I am against Homosexuality.
Homosexuality is different than Nocturnalism.

Either way , they can be prayed away.

I dare you to prove that anything can be "prayed away" in any other way then by pure placebo effect, ever.

Originally Posted by MagusAlexandros

I am religious , so please don't attack me.

I really fail to see how being religious would in any way work as an excuse not to have your views questioned.

Originally Posted by MagusAlexandros

Jesus says that if I had the faith the size of a mustard seed , I could move a mountain , therefore he calls us people of little faith.
I don't think I could cure my nocturnalism , because I am not faithful enough.
It gets hard to believe in God in times like these.
It gets harder and harder to do things with God , because I keep going away from him.
I am religious , so please don't attack me.

So you have become "less" of a Christian, all because you think that going to sleep while the Sun is visible is somehow belittling God's view of you?
Seriously, when did Christians become so vain?

Originally Posted by MagusAlexandros

Anyway... All irrelevant .

Originally Posted by MagusAlexandros

I end up with like 3 days without sleep.
Energy drinks do not help me gain sleep after a few hours of wearing off.

Really? Unless you are taking cocaine or some other hard drug it is out of the ordinary staying up 72 hours. Possible brain damage may occur as a result.

First off what do you do for living?

No, he's not a troll. He believes what he believes, even if he thinks it can be prayed away.

Anyway, this topic got derailed.

As far as your nocturnalness goes, TC, this is what you do:

The easiest way to fix this, if you have enough time to do so, is to deprive yourself of sleep by an hour or so, then sleep later. You will wake up later, obviously. Just keep on depriving yourself of sleep for another hour and then sleep at a later time, until you've sort of slid your sleep schedule around to a decent time.

I fail to see how one person's sleep problems qualifies as serious business.

Have you tried asking a doctor that specializes in sleep?

My spider senses tell me this is a veiled attack on homosexuality, much like nighthawkx's thread.

Originally Posted by MagusAlexandros

Okay... I have all the symptoms of being a nocturnal Human.
You may think it's cool , but it's not.

It is not defined as a disease , ailment , or disorder , but rather , a natural occurrence like homosexuality.

My symptoms are:

I sleep in daytime.
Every time I try to correct my sleeping schedule , it doesn't work ,and I end up with like 3 days without sleep.
Energy drinks do not help me gain sleep after a few hours of wearing off.
Everything I try is useless.



I went to a website , and the website says that I have an internal clock.
This internal clock tells people when to sleep.
Mostlikely , everyone here has a day internal clock , but I have night internal clock.

Trying to correct this is like a daywalker trying to stay awake at night.

They say it's natural , and I cannot control it , because it's who I am.

Save that you can alter your internal clock. People do it all the time (everytime you change timezones, or people who work night shifts).


It'll take roughly two weeks to switch from sleeping during the day to sleeping during the night, but it's far from impossible.

Originally Posted by mandym287

gradually change your bedtime and waking time by 5-10 minutes per week. Set goals for yourself, and dont give up. If you stop trying, you won't get better.

For changing timezones the rule-of-thumb is an hour per day. I'd imagine its similar here.

Originally Posted by HeroOfTime5

Really? Unless you are taking cocaine or some other hard drug it is out of the ordinary staying up 72 hours. Possible brain damage may occur as a result.

First off what do you do for living?

You cannot damage your brain by staying up too late. However, 72 hours without sleep will give you hallucinations, massive reduction in reasoning capability, inability to focus on anything and severe memory problems until they sleep.

In essence, your higher brain just shuts down until you get some shuteye.

If I had trouble sleeping, I would see a doctor.

Originally Posted by Twilight Joker

If I had trouble sleeping, I would see a doctor.

That's what I should've suggested to begin with. Thank you.

Originally Posted by John

You cannot damage your brain by staying up too late. However, 72 hours without sleep will give you hallucinations, massive reduction in reasoning capability, inability to focus on anything and severe memory problems until they sleep.

http://www.slate.com/id/2218092/

You can possibly die due to extreme and severe sleep deprivation. From reading that, it is still not clear but to be determined (at least according to that source above). It is clear though according to one study that rats indeed can die from sleep deprivation.

I suggest to you is that if you work a night shift to do everything you can to get a daytime work shift (assuming that you are working). That way it forces you to sleep when you have to so you can make a living to feed yourself.