Eleven year old boy who shot himself

I always felt that suicide was, as others have said, a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I think there's almost always an alternative to ending your life. You should try to work your problems out first.

But like John said, clinically depressed people aren't rational enough to see that.

But I think there are times when suicide is the best choice of action. Like, say, if you're sick and already dying anyway, killing yourself could be your option to make your death quick and painless instead of dragging out and bringing you suffering.

what if they find a cure for your disease the day after you plug yourself, if you were alive then you'd feel stupid right????

Cures don't work that way.

It takes years for a potential cure to go from idea to available on store shelves.

Plus, terminal illnesses are never solved by a newly-found miracle cure given to a patient on the brink of death.

Originally Posted by candc32

thebattler are you thinking of committing suicide? you seem to have it all thought out, do you need the number of the suicide hot line, which the kid could have also called by the way.

No, I am not thinking of committing suicide. I was speaking from experience.

Woah! I wonder how the bullies feel right now by, in a way, killing him.

I can see where this boy came from. I think in the past 2 years I've had 5 friends die of substance abuse, only because one day, they thought they had the worst day in their life, so they thought they needed a little more to help them, and they took too much.

if they just had the worst day of their lives isn't it all up hill from there?

What an hero with an great sense of logic. He had an choice to use that shotgun to blast those who were pickin on him away. An link to the story would be nice!

Anyways, I pray to god this wasn't a cyber bullying case. If so, I really hope his friends use it for avenge the suicide. But still, suicide is a pussy way out and I do not condone the boy blowing his brains out. He could had told a parent or an older family member about this and have settle down for a good schoolyard ass beating.

I really hope those kids who pick on him feel so guilty that they too want to kill themselves. They're gonna live with the fact their bullying drove a kid to suicide and they deserve to live with that on their mind for the rest of their lives.

The point of this story is how can school bullys be stoped or at least controlled so this doesn't happen in the future Do the parents need to get more involved or do the teachers need to be more strict and at least try to abate the effects of bullys?

I don't blame the kid for commiting suicide. Bullying is an awful thing, and it can really **** you up in all manners of ways. I blame the bullies first, as well as the teachers who didn't do a damn thing about it. Most schools rarely do anything about the bullies in it, preferring to isolate the victim or move them away instead of expelling the little turds who go around making other school children's lives a misery. Anyone who thinks the boy who commited suicide is completely at fault has clearly never really been bullied, or perhaps were bullies themselves and can't see what the problem is. The kid was eleven, not high and mighty and rational like many of you here.

Some people never really recover from the years of mental/emotional abuse they were put through in their younger years, and bullying still happens later on in the workplace, although it's more likely that the one doing the bullying in the workplace will be dealt with. As for the bullies who drove this kid to suicide, I don't think they'll feel a shred of remorse. Perhaps they'll even feel proud of what they did, and I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.

bullies come from broken homes, repair the home and he wont be so angry, so lets get a crane to move the tree then a work crew to fix the damage and a marriage consoler to fix the parents marriage.

Not all bullies come from broken homes. Perfectly well-adjusted kids from perfectly normal households can be the worst sort of bully.

well then the answer is clear beat them when the get the urge to bully then they will associate bullying with beatings, that solves things, and if you then say well hitler and stalin were beaten wont we be making more dictators, to this I have to say, I can't solve all the problems in the world, I'm only one man, BUT since you asked after the beatings give them ice cream and say if you don't bully anyone anymore you will get ice cream after school, this will reinforce the good behavior further, and hopefully make him forget the beatings, if he gets fat send him out to run that will build character setting and attaining a goal, further positive reinforcement, and self confidence building then you have a happy well adjusted person, and now I forgot my original point so I'm going to stop typing now.

What a load of rubbish. John is right, not all bullies come from broken homes, and some who come from loving families can indeed be the worst kind of bullies. They come in all shapes and forms. Bullies shouldn't be coddled or beaten, their behaviour should be nipped in the bud by the teachers who see it before it can be allowed to grow and escalate, and the schools should not condone the bullying in any shape or form by adopting zero tolerance policies.

what are the schools going to do nothing! they are too worried about not getting sued to do everything, I heard a story a while back this teacher tried to stop a bully from doing whatever he was doing, the school got mad and fired her, what will the schools do nothing! and detention doesn't help either.

I agree with the serpent, bullies come from rich parents who spoil their kids as well as poor kids who have nothing. Moreover, teachers need to identify bullies and do what they can to stop it in the halls, gym, and ecspecially in the class room. Schools can and should have a zero policy, no exceptions.

Sometimes they can deal with it. I was beaten up after school once and went to my headmistress about it. Due to the severity of what the two girls did (they were older and I was special needs at the time), the headteacher got the police in to deal with the girls and their families. The mother was actually very shocked that her girl did such a thing and punished her quite hard for it. She never bothered me again, so really, it's a piss-poor school (or teachers) that 'can't' deal with it. More like 'won't' because they don't like having the boat rocked.

In regards to the eleven year old boy, I hope that his death will serve as a warning to adults everywhere that children have to be called to account for bullcrap like this. Kids don't have a moral compass and don't understand just how much they can hurt others (the ones that do understand and try to hurt others as much as they can are purely sadistic and need to be controlled and restrained ASAP). It's the job of parents, and, when they fail, the teachers and school administrators to step in and show them what is appropriate and what isn't. If it means little Johnny or little Susie has to sit in detention, get suspended, or get expelled for being a vicious turd then so be it. Having children sign pledges to be 'nice' to one another means jack **** to kids incapable of understanding the moral implications of the words on the page.

Why is it when a child puts a bullet into himself or another person, folks wanna wake up then? I mean ****





Do we want to go through another those?

Originally Posted by candc32

well then the answer is clear beat them when the get the urge to bully then they will associate bullying with beatings, that solves things, and if you then say well hitler and stalin were beaten wont we be making more dictators, to this I have to say, I can't solve all the problems in the world, I'm only one man, BUT since you asked after the beatings give them ice cream and say if you don't bully anyone anymore you will get ice cream after school, this will reinforce the good behavior further, and hopefully make him forget the beatings, if he gets fat send him out to run that will build character setting and attaining a goal, further positive reinforcement, and self confidence building then you have a happy well adjusted person, and now I forgot my original point so I'm going to stop typing now.

That was one long sentence, so for clarification, are you saying the parents of bullies should beat them? If so, I don't see how that would help. They might get worse, taking out their anger and frustration on others because they themselves were physically abused.

I don't support or believe in physical punishments by parents unless it's an absolute last resort for a totally uncontrollable kid. I always hated the way my own family believed in hitting as a form of discipline. Besides, what if parents don't know their kids are picking on other kids?

I don't think bullies will ever be "stopped" because there will always be cruel children (and adults) in the world. Nothing can stop people from being that way, but maybe measures can be taken to help the ones on the receiving end.

It sucks that he war bullied so much that happened. The other kids called him gay.