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Old 12-19-2008, 04:50 PM
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Mental Powers- Telepathy and Telekineses

OK, we all know about telepathy and telekineses, when you use your mind to affect the minds of others or manipulate reality; respectively. Telepathy, the using the mind to communicate, control, and read the minds of others is something everyone probably at once wished they had as is telekineses, the manipulation of reality.

But, could either of these have any actual basis to be real? Could we be approaching a time where they are reality, or are they completely fictional? And what other things could the mind be hiding either way?

So really, is it possible that someday, possibly even in modern time, Humans or anther species will be able to use their minds to affect and look at other minds and not have to talk with sounds but with their minds? Is it possible for something/someone to user their minds to pick up objects, and if not could it be someday?

Personally, I like to think it might be possible but I really don't know. I suppose it might be but that's about it.
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Old 12-19-2008, 05:06 PM
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There really is a part of you that wants to believe, right? Yes, it is achievable but alas only to very few who will. It is not due to the lack of understanding, or rather, human consciousness is not on par with the spiritual realm. It has been prevented for years through mass control: confusion in temptations. A matrix is what some like to call it. Once you have realisation of the plastic world around, you obtain a quarter of enlightenment. This also comes with a consequence for you will begin to have urges to detest ideas, reject others and some even go as far as becoming an anarchist.


My thoughts are that the Mayans disappeared for this reason, not because of reverting back to savage laws then killing each other, no, it is because they achieved what our average simple minded society will not accept because they are afraid and prevented to see.
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Old 12-19-2008, 05:53 PM
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OK, we all know about telepathy and telekineses, when you use your mind to affect the minds of others or manipulate reality; respectively. Telepathy, the using the mind to communicate, control, and read the minds of others is something everyone probably at once wished they had as is telekineses, the manipulation of reality.

But, could either of these have any actual basis to be real? Could we be approaching a time where they are reality, or are they completely fictional? And what other things could the mind be hiding either way?

So really, is it possible that someday, possibly even in modern time, Humans or anther species will be able to use their minds to affect and look at other minds and not have to talk with sounds but with their minds? Is it possible for something/someone to user their minds to pick up objects, and if not could it be someday?

Personally, I like to think it might be possible but I really don't know. I suppose it might be but that's about it.
Is it theoretically possible at some point in the future using advanced technology? Sure.

Is it occurring now? Nope.

If it is, where is the evidence? Where is the proof? There is none and, what's more, it contradicts our current understanding of physics (especially telekineses, I mean, the energy to move those objects has to come from somewhere.)

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There really is a part of you that wants to believe, right? Yes, it is achievable but alas only to very few who will. It is not due to the lack of understanding, or rather, human consciousness is not on par with the spiritual realm. It has been prevented for years through mass control: confusion in temptations. A matrix is what some like to call it. Once you have realisation of the plastic world around, you obtain a quarter of enlightenment. This also comes with a consequence for you will begin to have urges to detest ideas, reject others and some even go as far as becoming an anarchist.
Um, what?

I really cannot understand a single word you're saying here. :/.


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My thoughts are that the Mayans disappeared for this reason, not because of reverting back to savage laws then killing each other, no, it is because they achieved what our average simple minded society will not accept because they are afraid and prevented to see.
They didn't disappear, they're still around, albeit no longer with their vast empire.

And they never went back to being savages, no, they were conquered by the Spanish. Conquered quite easily no less, utterly overpowered and outwitted by the invaders.
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Old 12-19-2008, 08:23 PM
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Re: Mental Powers- Telepathy and Telekineses

Give it a couple million years, and evolution may allow us to lift things with our minds or read the minds of others.

As for now, let's just focus on learning how to time travel. That's more than enough physical manipulation for mankind for the time being. XP
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Old 12-19-2008, 09:16 PM
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Re: Mental Powers- Telepathy and Telekineses

I don't think it is possible to have telepathy/telekinesis innately available to you from birth. Telekinesis in itself seems impossible to me, unless someone can explain how technology could enable one to move things without touching them. It seems that it would require a mechanism to lift the object and also a controller within your brain operated by electrical impulses to tell said mechanism when to operate. And that's not telekinesis in the truest sense.
Likewise, telepathy seems far fetched also (though admittedly less so than telekinesis). I likewise believe it would require some sort of machine/chip/device within the brain to monitor and code electrical impulses into feasible thoughts, and so you would need one within both your brain and the brain of the person you wish to communicate with or read their thoughts, etc.

Do I think such a thing is possible? Sure. Sometime in the future, hundreds of years from now. We simply do not have a sufficient knowledge of the workings of the human conscience to perform anything like this.

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There really is a part of you that wants to believe, right? Yes, it is achievable but alas only to very few who will. It is not due to the lack of understanding, or rather, human consciousness is not on par with the spiritual realm. It has been prevented for years through mass control: confusion in temptations. A matrix is what some like to call it. Once you have realisation of the plastic world around, you obtain a quarter of enlightenment. This also comes with a consequence for you will begin to have urges to detest ideas, reject others and some even go as far as becoming an anarchist.

My thoughts are that the Mayans disappeared for this reason, not because of reverting back to savage laws then killing each other, no, it is because they achieved what our average simple minded society will not accept because they are afraid and prevented to see.
I have no idea what you just said, nor do I know if you were being serious.
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Old 12-19-2008, 11:55 PM
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Re: Mental Powers- Telepathy and Telekineses

So far, everyone who has tried to perform telekinesis in controlled environments has failed. There's an easy million dollars waiting for anyone who can demonstrate it. Really, there's no excuse not to do it.
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Old 12-20-2008, 10:15 AM
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Re: Mental Powers- Telepathy and Telekineses

Really? A million dollars? That's even more reason to try to be able to lift stuff with your mind.

I really would like to see it as truth; but I honestly can't see how. Unless the energy in your brain can somehow use electromagnetic forces or something crazy like that. Doesn't the brain make electricity or something to that extent? Because if it did, maybe it could someday alter electromagnetic fields enough to "grab" objects.
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Old 12-20-2008, 10:25 AM
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Re: Mental Powers- Telepathy and Telekineses

I don't exactly believe in this. Sure, the mind has some strength-as in the case with REGs-but it goes against the laws of physics to, say, make something fly across the room.
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Old 12-20-2008, 12:30 PM
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Is it theoretically possible at some point in the future using advanced technology? Sure.

Is it occurring now? Nope.

If it is, where is the evidence? Where is the proof? There is none and, what's more, it contradicts our current understanding of physics (especially telekineses, I mean, the energy to move those objects has to come from somewhere.)
I was going to say something, however, that comment pretty much sums up my thoughts on the subject, with one exception.

It is happening now, however, it's much less remarkable (in a way, in another way much more remarkable) than people like to picture it, and it's, of course, technologically assisted.

There are actually EEG scanners which will become commercially available within the coming months. While these scanners are primarily designed to operate games, they can easily be utilized to operate machinery or other physical devices. Of course, I'm far more interested in their applications in gaming.


But really, you have to think about how logical it is to have naturally occurring telekinesis. Brainwaves are simply waves, correct? Electromagnetic pulses given off by the chemical reactions occurring within your brain.

When was the last time you threw something across the room with... radio waves? Or microwaves? Infrared rays? Light?

Brainwaves aren't even mechanical radiation. Where sound, at very high amplitudes, has the ability to shake physical objects on a visible level, electromagnetic waves do not. Brainwaves are electromagnetic waves.

for more information read these pages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waves#Definitions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroencephalography

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There really is a part of you that wants to believe, right? Yes, it is achievable but alas only to very few who will. It is not due to the lack of understanding, or rather, human consciousness is not on par with the spiritual realm. It has been prevented for years through mass control: confusion in temptations. A matrix is what some like to call it. Once you have realisation of the plastic world around, you obtain a quarter of enlightenment. This also comes with a consequence for you will begin to have urges to detest ideas, reject others and some even go as far as becoming an anarchist.


My thoughts are that the Mayans disappeared for this reason, not because of reverting back to savage laws then killing each other, no, it is because they achieved what our average simple minded society will not accept because they are afraid and prevented to see.
Assuming you are serious:

1.) No.
2.) I am an anarchist, though I'm having quite a bit of trouble figuring out how to shoot magical death rays out of my head. Or is it that once I gain a 'quarter of enlightenment' I may become an anarchist and then the road to spiritual awesome rays is cut off? Where does that leave the world's anarchists? They want magic head beams too!
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:13 PM
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Re: Mental Powers- Telepathy and Telekineses

i can read minds.. occasionaly. When im extremely tired i can "Hear" people talking even when they arent. FOr example: Yesterday me and a couple of friends were out at the mall and we wanted something to eat and some one says they want pizza. Thats when i hear my friend eddie next to me say "I just ate pizza yesterday." And i go, "I ate pizza yesterday too." And he stares at me like "WTF?! i didnt say that out loud did i?" lol hes new to our group of friends. All of my friends now i can do this and some are afraid of being near me when they have secrets lol
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i can read minds.. occasionaly. When im extremely tired i can "Hear" people talking even when they arent. FOr example: Yesterday me and a couple of friends were out at the mall and we wanted something to eat and some one says they want pizza. Thats when i hear my friend eddie next to me say "I just ate pizza yesterday." And i go, "I ate pizza yesterday too." And he stares at me like "WTF?! i didnt say that out loud did i?" lol hes new to our group of friends. All of my friends now i can do this and some are afraid of being near me when they have secrets lol
I call bullsh-t
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Old 12-20-2008, 01:41 PM
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i can read minds.. occasionaly. When im extremely tired i can "Hear" people talking even when they arent. FOr example: Yesterday me and a couple of friends were out at the mall and we wanted something to eat and some one says they want pizza. Thats when i hear my friend eddie next to me say "I just ate pizza yesterday." And i go, "I ate pizza yesterday too." And he stares at me like "WTF?! i didnt say that out loud did i?" lol hes new to our group of friends. All of my friends now i can do this and some are afraid of being near me when they have secrets lol
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Old 12-20-2008, 04:20 PM
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I do believe that telekinesis exists but I'm not sure of telepathy. My pastor's father (who is a pastor) went to a girl's house with her parents home and there were objects being thrown across the room with no physical interaction. This is no joke. I know my pastor would not lie about serious things like this and I guess his father had to perform some exorcism to get rid of the thing that possessed her body. I'm not making this up just for some post. This truly happened.
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Old 12-20-2008, 06:12 PM
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Is it theoretically possible at some point in the future using advanced technology? Sure.

Is it occurring now? Nope.

If it is, where is the evidence? Where is the proof? There is none and, what's more, it contradicts our current understanding of physics (especially telekineses, I mean, the energy to move those objects has to come from somewhere.)
PsiPog.net : Science is Evolving

Go there. Then follow it's links to other sites. It does make sense, believe it or not.
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Old 12-20-2008, 06:26 PM
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Mind paraphrasing?
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Mind paraphrasing?
Fine.

I think I got the link wrong, too. It could be a .org...

Anyway, it states that telekinesis and psychokinesis and such is made possible by something called Psi. I don't know exactly what it is, but I think it's a form of energy, anyway...
It also explains the subconscious, and how it really controls the kinesises, as it can not tell reality from fiction. It gives some tutorials on how to do this stuff, as well. I've been able to do some, but with little success, seeing as how I can't find a good time to meditate.

Anyway, check out this link, too, if you don't believe me(I know this one's right): PsionicsOnline.net.: Psionic Classes, Blogs, Articles and Community
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Old 12-20-2008, 06:44 PM
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I hate all this new age crap. Psi is nothing. It has always been nothing. It will always be nothing.
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I hate all this new age crap. Psi is nothing. It has always been nothing. It will always be nothing.
Stop being closed minded, if only for a second.

I hate most of this new age stuff, too. It gets annoying. But Psi actually makes sense, and belive it or not, it isn't part of the new age movement. You're not hearing about it on the news, or in the paper, or on the radio. It's just something that the human body could do, that was relatively undiscovered, and still is.
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Old 12-20-2008, 07:11 PM
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Fine.

I think I got the link wrong, too. It could be a .org...

Anyway, it states that telekinesis and psychokinesis and such is made possible by something called Psi. I don't know exactly what it is, but I think it's a form of energy, anyway...
There is no such energy.

You cannot, using your mind alone, move objects.

If you can, I challenge you: post a video of you moving a heavy object using just your mind. It won't be definitive proof by any means, but it might be interesting to see.

If all you can move are things like pieces of paper then you're taking credit for the work of random air currents.

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Stop being closed minded, if only for a second.

I hate most of this new age stuff, too. It gets annoying. But Psi actually makes sense, and belive it or not, it isn't part of the new age movement. You're not hearing about it on the news, or in the paper, or on the radio. It's just something that the human body could do, that was relatively undiscovered, and still is.
Psi is indeed part of the new age movement, and it makes no sense at all.

You don't even know what it is, how can you honestly say that it makes sense?
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Stop being closed minded, if only for a second.

I hate most of this new age stuff, too. It gets annoying. But Psi actually makes sense, and belive it or not, it isn't part of the new age movement. You're not hearing about it on the news, or in the paper, or on the radio. It's just something that the human body could do, that was relatively undiscovered, and still is.
I am very open minded, I just have my limits.

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Psi is indeed part of the new age movement, and it makes no sense at all.

You don't even know what it is, how can you honestly say that it makes sense?
This.

I want proof, if you don't have any then stop trying, plzkthxbai.
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