White Collar Jobs . . .

They're what make America who she is! Corporate America is the backbone and the base of the American society and without it, America would be in ruins. They're the ones making money and building America! Blue collar jobs, who needs them? They're worthless!

I would have to disagree with you greatly. "Blue-collar" workers include manufacturing, mining, building and construction trades, teaching, mechanical work, maintenance, repair and operations maintenance or technical installations. Whereas "white-collar" workers are ones that deal with non-manual labor often in an office; and the service industry worker performs semi-professional office, administrative, and sales coordination tasks.

So when you break it down, "blue-collar" workers are what makes America who she is. Without them, we would have nothing, most of all not the precious white-collar workers, who without the teachers (who are categorized under blue-collar), would never make it to where they are.

So to take the words you said, "building America" literally, that would fall under "blue-collar."

White collar corporate pricks? WHO NEEDS 'EM?

All of America can run on its own just by getting off its ass, donning the ol' blue collar, and WORKING for a living! What has ever been accomplished while sitting at a computer? Nothing, that's what! At least, nothing I've seen. But who cares? I know how to build a working actuator!

Right.. but the white collar can design an even better one. ;P

"I'd like to teach the world to sing
In perfect harmony
I'd like to hold it in my arms and keep it company
I'd like to see the world for once
All standing hand in hand
And hear them echo through the hills "Ah, peace throughout the land""
- Albert Einstein, The Declaration of Independence

Green collar jobs are becoming more and more interesting...

If you think Corporations are a good thing.
Ive got one thing to say.
WALL-MART
awful corporation, don't pay jack ****, and like most, they try to hire many part time workers instead of hiring on full time workers.
What this does is keeps them from a having to pay benefits (health/dental) to employees. They would rather hire many younger people to work just part of the day, then someone who is willing to work hard for a full day.
BELIEVE ME, Ive worked in a place just like that, they don't hide that fact one bit, that's the plan, so they can save money at the top, get that extra boat they need or larger house.

The other thing Ive noticed about Retail Corporations, is the people in charge at the top have probably never worked a day of customer service in their life. Their ideas and policies are usually retarded as hell.

Originally Posted by Asskey

White collar corporate pricks? WHO NEEDS 'EM?

All of America can run on its own just by getting off its ass, donning the ol' blue collar, and WORKING for a living! What has ever been accomplished while sitting at a computer? Nothing, that's what! At least, nothing I've seen. But who cares? I know how to build a working actuator!

And yet, here we are, sitting at a computer *****ing about it. At least im at work doing it HAHAHA!

Originally Posted by Blitz55

If you think Corporations are a good thing.
Ive got one thing to say.
WALL-MART
awful corporation, don't pay jack ****, and like most, they try to hire many part time workers instead of hiring on full time workers.
What this does is keeps them from a having to pay benefits (health/dental) to employees. They would rather hire many younger people to work just part of the day, then someone who is willing to work hard for a full day.
BELIEVE ME, Ive worked in a place just like that, they don't hide that fact one bit, that's the plan, so they can save money at the top, get that extra boat they need or larger house.

The other thing Ive noticed about Retail Corporations, is the people in charge at the top have probably never worked a day of customer service in their life. Their ideas and policies are usually retarded as hell.

Sounds like a failure who doesn't like his job!

WAL-MART does many a great thing for this nation! It's every white-collar men and women's wet dream!

Corporations are good! They give many people jobs in this great nation of America!

Problem is that without any blue collar workers there would be no offices for the white collar workers to work in.

HAH

Blue collar, white collar, no collar --- what does it matter as long as you're working?

Originally Posted by Snow_Storm

Sounds like a failure who doesn't like his job!

WAL-MART does many a great thing for this nation! It's every white-collar men and women's wet dream!

Corporations are good! They give many people jobs in this great nation of America!

Look kid, you wouldn't say something like that to my face so don't act like a Tough little KeyBoard Warrior online. Its sad.

And there is a difference between Giving people jobs, and Using people as cheep labor because there are not enough jobs. There are not enough jobs, because people who work at these corporations usually have to hold TWO jobs.

Originally Posted by Blitz55

Look kid, you wouldn't say something like that to my face so don't act like a Tough little KeyBoard Warrior online. Its sad.

And there is a difference between Giving people jobs, and Using people as cheep labor because there are not enough jobs. There are not enough jobs, because people who work at these corporations usually have to hold TWO jobs.

Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

I love how you call me a keyboard warrior, and yet, you say that I wouldn't say none of this **** on your face! I never threaten any bodily harm against you, nor have I acted like I'm the toughest mother ****er around!

Saying something like "I bet you wouldn't say this in my face" is keyboard warrior talk, Mr. Hypocrite.

Ain't my fault these morons didn't do any background infomation about there businessness and end up suckin' corporate dick! Hell, somebody I know told me to there's a job opening at Wal-Mart. Me, having common sense to research these companies, I told this person "HELL NO!"

Originally Posted by Snow_Storm

Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha. Ha.

I love how you call me a keyboard warrior, and yet, you say that I wouldn't say none of this **** on your face! I never threaten any bodily harm against you, nor have I acted like I'm the toughest mother ****er around!

Saying something like "I bet you wouldn't say this in my face" is keyboard warrior talk, Mr. Hypocrite.

Ain't my fault these morons didn't do any background infomation about there businessness and end up suckin' corporate dick! Hell, somebody I know told me to there's a job opening at Wal-Mart. Me, having common sense to research these companies, I told this person "HELL NO!"

For one thing, I made a post talking about the topic and my thoughts. The first thing you did was call me a Failure. If that is not you trying to insult me then I don't know what you where trying to do. You don't know me, so it was clearly you trying to make a jab at me. Which is fine, I just commented that that is something you would not say to me, or probably anyone in a discussion face to face. So I am no Hypocrite. Since I have yet to insult you. Calling you a Keyboard warrior after you insult me hardly makes me a Hypocrite.

But, speaking of Hypocrites, you just admitted that the job was Crap after saying how great the company is for America. How can it be great and Crap at the same time? This is really my fault for getting into this argument with a kid on a Zelda Forum.
Ill move along and let you have the last Laugh.

Originally Posted by Blitz55

If you think Corporations are a good thing.
Ive got one thing to say.
WALL-MART
awful corporation, don't pay jack ****, and like most, they try to hire many part time workers instead of hiring on full time workers.
What this does is keeps them from a having to pay benefits (health/dental) to employees. They would rather hire many younger people to work just part of the day, then someone who is willing to work hard for a full day.
BELIEVE ME, Ive worked in a place just like that, they don't hide that fact one bit, that's the plan, so they can save money at the top, get that extra boat they need or larger house.

The other thing Ive noticed about Retail Corporations, is the people in charge at the top have probably never worked a day of customer service in their life. Their ideas and policies are usually retarded as hell.

You know, maybe if the employees actually tried to do something with their lives, they wouldn't be stuck in retail.

Don't even mention that "oh Wal-Mart puts everybody else out of business so people are stuck working there." Wal-Mart doesn't put hospitals out of business. Wal-Mart doesn't put contractors out of business.

There is no room for advancement in retail. Knowing how to work a cash register isn't going to land you a real job. "Customer service" isn't a legitimate job skill.


I love how it's easy to criticize greedy rich CEO's, but for some reason the failures that work for them that have made no attempt to better their lives are somehow victims of foul play. It's called a minimum wage job for a reason; you shouldn't expect anything above pocket change.

Cornflake, what about those people who do not have the oppurtunity to do better? The people who weren't able to do college, or have connections with people in high places. The people who have to work minimum wage jobs, not only one, but two, three. Are they as well failures?

The people that go to these jobs every day, doing all they can to provide for themselves and their family, sacrificing all they have to try to just scrape it by. Sometimes people are stuck working there due to outside circumstances.

Originally Posted by Captain "Shannon Hoon" Cornflake

You know, maybe if the employees actually tried to do something with their lives, they wouldn't be stuck in retail.

Don't even mention that "oh Wal-Mart puts everybody else out of business so people are stuck working there." Wal-Mart doesn't put hospitals out of business. Wal-Mart doesn't put contractors out of business.

There is no room for advancement in retail. Knowing how to work a cash register isn't going to land you a real job. "Customer service" isn't a legitimate job skill.


I love how it's easy to criticize greedy rich CEO's, but for some reason the failures that work for them that have made no attempt to better their lives are somehow victims of foul play. It's called a minimum wage job for a reason; you shouldn't expect anything above pocket change.

To me I guess It comes down to one thing. And you are right, it is easy to pin point CEOs for attack.

I guess the saying goes. "The World Needs Ditch Diggers" I just say, is it to much to ask to pay them enough to live off of? Especially if they are working for a company that makes far more than enough money to double every employees salary and still be fine, as well as give them benefits of some kind.

If they all had the ambition you seem to have, and they all went to college, and they where all looking for the White Collar Job. Then we would have a serious problem. Because no one would be Building the Office Buildings you work in, or cashiering at the stores you like to shop in, or digging the ditches for the sewage pipes you like to S**t in.

I guess its just a difference of opinion. Won't really be solved on here.
But I like to think that the idea of AMERICA is that we are all in this together, and it should not be a cater to the rich and crap on the poor society. We should not allow large corporations to take advantage of people the way they do. If they are not doing that here, they are sending out tons of jobs over seas, which could be another reason why we have fewer jobs, and more people trying to get what ever they can, even if it means working at Wal-Mart. Which sucks, but it is better than sitting on the street.

I don't get this whole "you need to go to college to be successful" mindset.

Anybody has the opportunity to do better. You don't need 4 years of college to (random example here) learn how to paint on the internet and start painting houses.

Is it a shame that the corperate leaders make billions of dollars on their in-poverty workers? Of course it is. Just remember it's the defeatist "we can't do any better" attitude that made that possible in the first place.

Originally Posted by Warp_Spark

Cornflake, what about those people who do not have the oppurtunity to do better? The people who weren't able to do college, or have connections with people in high places. The people who have to work minimum wage jobs, not only one, but two, three. Are they as well failures?

The people that go to these jobs every day, doing all they can to provide for themselves and their family, sacrificing all they have to try to just scrape it by. Sometimes people are stuck working there due to outside circumstances.

Like Cap stated, ANYONE has the skill to do better in life. Just because somebody didn't went to college doesn't make the a failure. I hate people like that, those who shun down on people that didn't go to college, but they find a way to beat the damn odds.

And beside, some people are too damn lazy to stand up and find better work!

And don't give me this bull**** like "Oh, it's the situation, it's luck, etc!" That's just giving up!

Stay friendly and non-serious, or I'll send you all to the SD!





Seriously, though; Snow_Storm, you should let me know if you intended this to be a more serious discussion, and I can move it for you.



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EDIT:

I've moved this thread to the Serious Discussion forum. From this point onward, the discussion should follow the rules of the SD (read the guidelines for the SD if you don't generally post here).

- J