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Old 10-02-2008, 02:17 PM
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Re: Adoption - Make it an option

Birth Control and a condom?

Someone is lying.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:20 PM
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Birth Control and a condom?

Someone is lying.
Could be. Or it could be that she was one of the very few rare times that she got pregnant while being on birth control and practicing safe sex. I actually know a few women who got pregnant while on birth control. My mom (my younger brother was a surprise), my cousin, and a friend of mine (her first was a surprise). So it is still very possible.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:27 PM
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Re: Adoption - Make it an option

The failure rate on both condom and BC combined is extremely low.

In the decimal percentages.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:31 PM
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Re: Adoption - Make it an option

Is it just me or is everyone else having the same problem? Sorry this is off topic, but whenever I try to post a new thread, try to edit a post, or try to reply to a private message, I get an error box. I can't perform any of the above actions without this error box, so I've been unable to edit, post new threads, and I can't reply to messages in my inbox.

Whats going on?
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I'm not on any drugs by the way...
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Sure, since he has descendants, I bet he hooks up with a girl at some point...
But ultimately, he doesn't have time for girls, cause he has a world to save...
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:45 PM
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Re: Adoption - Make it an option

A few have had that problem in the last few days, if you are using IE, you may want to use something else.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:49 PM
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Re: Adoption - Make it an option

Ugh, like Firefox? Problem is, I'm at work, and I don't know if my boss would appreciate my downloading stuff without his approval on the business computer. Then again, he pays me to play, lol.
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What's weird in Zelda is when you go to the townsfolk and talk to them (this is in about all the games) and when you speak to them right after speaking to them (Still with me?) they say the same thing. Surely they know that they just said what they said to you. Why do they gotta say it again? Can't they say something new?

I'm not on any drugs by the way...
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I see Link as Batman...
Sure, since he has descendants, I bet he hooks up with a girl at some point...
But ultimately, he doesn't have time for girls, cause he has a world to save...
Like Batman!
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:53 PM
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Re: Adoption - Make it an option

There are other browsers besides Firefox but whatever.
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Old 10-02-2008, 03:15 PM
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Re: Adoption - Make it an option

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Not all people who get pregnant chose to have unprotected sex.
Of course, most people who do probably did.
Not all pregnancy results from unprotected sex.
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Old 10-02-2008, 03:16 PM
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Re: Adoption - Make it an option

Most pregnancies do, which is why the word most was used.
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Old 10-02-2008, 05:24 PM
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Not all people who get pregnant chose to have unprotected sex.
Of course, most people who do probably did.
Yes. Rape is an unfortunate problem, and I think the decision making for that particular situation is different.

But here's the thing; Its harder to get pregnant than most think. Your ovulation is like a 3 day window. The odds of you having sex during that particular time (unless you use a kit to find out when) and getting pregnant are very rare. After Buzz and I went off birth control, it took us 6 months to get pregnant. These one night stand/one shot pregnancies boggle my mind...


Anyways, with adoption, I was just thinking of an Adoption Story if anyone watches that. These are truly touching stories, and I want to see more people like that. More mothers willing to sacrifice, more mothers willing to take initiative, to give the ultimate gift for a family and their baby, who think of others before themselves. If we had more people like that in this world, think of how much nicer it would be?
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Old 10-02-2008, 05:44 PM
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And, well, contraceptions can and do fail, even if the chance of that is something like 10% with just a condom, and continuously decreases depending on how many and which you use.
In sex ed they told us that using multiple condoms is worse... That it actually raises the chances of it breaking due to more friction.
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Old 10-02-2008, 05:46 PM
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But here's the thing; Its harder to get pregnant than most think. Your ovulation is like a 3 day window. The odds of you having sex during that particular time (unless you use a kit to find out when) and getting pregnant are very rare. After Buzz and I went off birth control, it took us 6 months to get pregnant. These one night stand/one shot pregnancies boggle my mind...
How often did you do it?

Maybe some people are more fertile than others?

And I think that one night stand type pregnancies actually only happen to a small percentage of people, there are just so many people that we notice it more.
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Old 10-02-2008, 05:53 PM
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How often did you do it?

Maybe some people are more fertile than others?

And I think that one night stand type pregnancies actually only happen to a small percentage of people, there are just so many people that we notice it more.
Well, I'd say at least twice a week. We didn't change our pattern, we just lived lives normally, but still... 6 months is a long time. I know people who took longer than we did, and actually tried counting down towards their ovulation. Meh, its true, each person is different and some people are more fertile than others.

And its true, we only ever hear about the quick and unexpected pregnancies, but they are the minority. But out of those, I hope at least a larger portion consider adoption. I know a family right now who can't have kids, and they have been waiting for a long time to have children.

My parents were married for 3 years when they decided to adopt. They ended up waiting 8 years before the adoption agency called them and said they had a baby for them. Course, that was back in 1986. Adoption happens much quicker now because there are more and more unwanted pregnancies happening. Happy for the families who actually want children, but abortion is slowly decreasing their chances of becoming parents now.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:07 PM
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Re: Adoption - Make it an option

You are severely overstating things.

There are more than enough kids up for adoption, it's simply the system that prevents placement.

The foster system is a trainwreck, simply put.

Abortion is not as mainstream as you try to make it seem, and it would be nice if you didn't try to seed misinformation.

Place blame where blame is deserved. Placing blame to further an agenda is underhanded at best.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:22 PM
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There are more than enough kids up for adoption, it's simply the system that prevents placement.
Yeah, this is a hard issue. Not enough people wanting kids. It's sad that the world has turned this way.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:32 PM
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Yeah, this is a hard issue. Not enough people wanting kids. It's sad that the world has turned this way.
Overpopulation's a ***** isn't it?

You act like people should be honored to be able to adopt an unwanted child. When someone makes that choice, good for them, but it's not like anyone has the responsibility to adopt.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:37 PM
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Overpopulation's a ***** isn't it?

You act like people should be honored to be able to adopt an unwanted child. When someone makes that choice, good for them, but it's not like anyone has the responsibility to adopt.
No, I'm not saying that everyone has to adopt to help "save the children" or whatever. I'm saying its a much better option than the others, and should be considered, at least for the mothers who are pregnant and don't want to keep their child. This is mostly for them.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:39 PM
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Re: Adoption - Make it an option

Adopting in my opinion allows a child to be bought up with a family who could in many ways treat the child better than it has been treated already and to bring in an unwanted child and raise it right and true.

I for one am adopted because my birth parents were incapable in many ways of bringing up children. I was bought into a family who treated me right and gave me all the right moves in life and made me into who i am today, a respected citizen in the community who does voluntary work at my local on the committee (people who run the club basically), work at a big company earning big bucks and have a loving family to come home to at the end of the day.

Adopting is an option, you either adopt or you don't. It is up to potential adoptees who pass a test i think if they want to adopt children. And i for one am for adoption as it gives children a second chance in life.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:42 PM
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Re: Adoption - Make it an option

Putting up a child for adoption is not always an option because abortion is commonly done when giving birth would have fatal consequences for the mother or unborn child.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:49 PM
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Adopting in my opinion allows a child to be bought up with a family who could in many ways treat the child better than it has been treated already and to bring in an unwanted child and raise it right and true.

I for one am adopted because my birth parents were incapable in many ways of bringing up children. I was bought into a family who treated me right and gave me all the right moves in life and made me into who i am today, a respected citizen in the community who does voluntary work at my local on the committee (people who run the club basically), work at a big company earning big bucks and have a loving family to come home to at the end of the day.

Adopting is an option, you either adopt or you don't. It is up to potential adoptees who pass a test i think if they want to adopt children. And i for one am for adoption as it gives children a second chance in life.
Ah, another person adopted! Yes.


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Putting up a child for adoption is not always an option because abortion is commonly done when giving birth would have fatal consequences for the mother or unborn child.
Statistics show it is very rare with today's technology to have any sort of fatality risk for the mother or baby. Unless the mom does drugs, smokes, or those types of things (which she shouldn't be).
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