What do you think should be the Age of Consent?

Originally Posted by Zauriel

Well, firstly, I didn't make the teen pregnancy argument twice. Go back and read my first post. Secondly, it's unreasonable to think that the fact that fourteen-year-olds may ask for advice and use birth control automatically makes them mature enough to have sex. I just don't believe one is psychologically mature enough to have sex at fourteen.

Proof? Sources? Evidence from people who have degrees in psychology?

Firstly, adolescents around this age lack in forseeing the consequences that they will face whenever they do a risky act on themselves.
Psychologically, a teenager girl would not apply the risks of being pregnant enough that she will be more excited about having sex than the other problems that can associate with sex such as sexually transmitted diseases, unwanted pregnancies etc.

I think it should be applied when a woman is old enough to reach for help in a community if things go wrong than to hide it and to face heavy consequences in later life such as a child that she didn't want, diseases that can result in infertility and such.

And also for the fact that sometimes girls find that having sex is a sacred thing because it is considered the end of their virginity. So to have their boyfriend to break up with them, they personally think that they are no more, but broken females who had their virginity stolen from them.

I think 15 is good.

I mean, even a lot of 19 year olds make stupid sexual decisions sometimes. they're already doing it at age 15, why not make that the age fo consent? besides, I was 15 dating and 18 year old. it would have sucked for him to go to jail for that stuff, even though I was completely consentual.

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

And also for the fact that sometimes girls find that having sex is a sacred thing because it is considered the end of their virginity. So to have their boyfriend to break up with them, they personally think that they are no more, but broken females who had their virginity stolen from them.

Is this a real arguement? This seriously sounds like an attempt to demonize it because you don't personally like it and either way tyhe government doesn't have the right to make sure people don't make moves they'll later regret. Other wise we'd have to ban all forms of gambling, Mc Donald's and Miley Cyrus albums.

Originally Posted by DarKnite92

Is this a real arguement. This seriously sounds like an attempt to demonize it because you don't personally like it and either way tyhe government doesn't have the right to make sure people don't make moves they'll later regret. Other wise we'd have to ban all forms of gambling, Mc Donald's and Miley Cyrus albums.

I was stating some girls that I known who were absolutely psychologically broken and emotionally in tears after their boyfriend left them. It is not any attempt to change opinions or stuff, but what I have personally heard and to say it on here.
It is because they are extremely religious about sex and one would say that sex is meant to be forever. But I disgress.

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

I was stating some girls that I known who were absolutely psychologically broken and emotionally in tears after their boyfriend left them. It is not any attempt to change opinions or stuff, but what I have personally heard and to say it on here.

It is because they are extremely religious about sex and one would say that sex is meant to be forever. But I disgress.

I hear that **** from grown women. This issue is nothing to do with their age, they just gotta learn to get over it like everyone else (and often do). Plus they'll be psychologically and emotionally broken when their boyfriend dumps them regardless of sex - I knew girls who were a complete wreck after they'd been out with their boyfriend for about a week. The only thing that changes with age is the amount of time it takes before a woman starts crying over a meaningless relationship.

Originally Posted by Lelouch

I hear that **** from grown women. This issue is nothing to do with their age, they just gotta learn to get over it like everyone else (and often do). Plus they'll be psychologically and emotionally broken when their boyfriend dumps them regardless of sex - I knew girls who were a complete wreck after they'd been out with their boyfriend for about a week. The only thing that changes with age is the amount of time it takes before a woman starts crying over a meaningless relationship.

Exactly. I see crying over a relationship breakdown is the same as crying over spilt milk.

Really? I haven't heard of anyone crying over an relationship that didn't last for even a week. They must have some attatchment disorders... That is just not normal.

So even still, I think a girl should be mature enough to have sex, even when things go wrong in their relationhsip. The maturity to get over it.

Originally Posted by Eternal Legend

Exactly. I see crying over a relationship breakdown is the same as crying over spilt milk.

Really? I haven't heard of anyone crying over an relationship that didn't last for even a week. They must have some attatchment disorders... That is just not normal.

It's perfectly normal. I've taken ****s that lasted longer than most teenage relationships.

So even still, I think a girl should be mature enough to have sex, even when things go wrong in their relationhsip. The maturity to get over it.

I don't think you can make laws based on a value like that though. As I've said in previous posts, the laws are there just to prevent young people from being taken advantage of, and to prevent problems like pregnant teenagers and teens with STIs. If these problems don't exist, or are rare, then there's no reason to kick up a fuss about it and stop everyone who's under 16 from having sex altogether - you can't enforce a law like that, so it's simply a guideline as to when it can be considered safe to let them consent to sex with people much older than they are.

This reminds me of that old "HOMOSEXUALITY WILL LEAD TO PEOPLE SCREWING DOGS" argument. Find me one place in this thread where anyone said that there should be 7 year differences in the ages of people having sex.

Well, lets see, if we make the age of consent 12 or 13 or 14, then that's saying it's okay for a 14 yo to be with a 21 yo right?

I bet that the MAJORITY of people in here who are saying that anyone younger than 16 should have the right to have sex with those 18 and older are NOT parents. Really. If the kid was yours, it would be a completely different story.

As soon as someone is old enough to get the urge to have sex, their body is ready for it. This is how we evolved, the reason we get these urges is to procreate.

However, the problem is that the vast majority of the time we have sex we don't want to procreate, we just want the good feelings that come with it. Puberty generally happens at 12, and thus is the age that people will start having sex if uninformed. People should just be educated about contraceptives and about STDs. The laws in place protect mentally immature people under the age of 18 that still wish to have sex with people around their own age. 18 being the age considered old enough to have sex with anyone older.

These are good laws since 18 is at least near the age that people become attractive to all people. When I was 12 I was attracted to 12 year olds. Now, at 19 I'm rarely attracted to girls under 15, and as I get older I suspect that age will rise as well.

Originally Posted by ChildofTwilight

Well, lets see, if we make the age of consent 12 or 13 or 14, then that's saying it's okay for a 14 yo to be with a 21 yo right?

I bet that the MAJORITY of people in here who are saying that anyone younger than 16 should have the right to have sex with those 18 and older are NOT parents. Really. If the kid was yours, it would be a completely different story.

You didn't read my post. That's the only possible explanation for that answer. That entire post you just made is one gigantic straw man.
NOBODY in here said to make it younger than 14
NOBODY in here said there should be a 7 or 6 year gap allowed in the ages at that point. In fact, a quick read through of the thread would show you people were posting laws against that sort of thing specially to stop 21 year olds from screwing 14 year olds.

And my first girlfriend had a kid, I heard about that **** alllll the time from her.

I don't think people should be allowed to have sex till they are married. Call it a restriction of freedom, thats what it is and it will never happen, but still imagine if it did, a LOT of problems in our society would decrease.

Originally Posted by ChrisHoulihan

I don't think people should be allowed to have sex till they are married. Call it a restriction of freedom, thats what it is and it will never happen, but still imagine if it did, a LOT of problems in our society would decrease.

Hmm.

1) How will you enforce this law?

2) Does this mean same-sex marriage must be legal in all states?

3) How is this not a religious idea?

4) What evidence do you have that would even remotely suggest that restricting sex to marriage would decrease problems in society? What specific problems would decrease, and in what way?

5) If it is a restriction of freedom, why should we do it?

6) What about people who get married and then divorce? Or what about widows and widowers? Is this law to prevent younger people from ****ing, or everyone who's not married?

Originally Posted by ChrisHoulihan

I don't think people should be allowed to have sex till they are married. Call it a restriction of freedom, thats what it is and it will never happen, but still imagine if it did, a LOT of problems in our society would decrease.

Hell, why even let people choose their partners? I mean, a lot of problems would be solved if people didn't have all these emotions running rampant in their everyday lives, so we should just assign them partners. That way they don't have things like feelings for another individual standing in the way of their servitude to the state.