Drugs

How can explaining the origin and definition of psychological stress and its relation to various degrees of drug obsession in a third party be constituted as being "flippantly ignorant" of the subject at hand?

Some would say that *was* the subject until you magically decided it wasn't.

Seriously, how could we even be discussing the adverse effects of drug abuse if we didn't understand how such things could indirectly lead to stress? :/

Well, what I have seen from you is a trend involving ignorance regarding the actual harm caused by drug addicts.

I know first hand the damage drug use can do to a person and what harm those people can cause to themselves and to others around them.
All because of what negative effect these drugs have on them.

Even psychotropics. You obviously assume this is some attack on your little pot smoking clique, and I've already stated that you aren't relevant to my argument.

Pot is only negative in the sense that it can cause people to do exceedingly idiotic things and for it's nature as a gateway drug. It is far from being the only "gateway drug".

You assume that you have some sort of understanding into the way my mind works, when you really have no idea.

I'm not even attacking the "drug" that has personally caused damage to occur to myself and to my "loved" ones. So really this is more objective than you understand.

I have no vendetta here. I have simply seen too much pain related to drug abuse.

You are under the misguided and mistaken belief that drugs don't have any adverse effects on people.

They do, they have many. This is not about obsession. There are some drugs out there which can permanently ruin a person after just one use, just one unlucky roll of the dice and their life is forever destroyed.

Wow, if I resorted to ad hominems like you do, my entire posts would consist of nothing but "FURFAG" in bright-red size-32 bolded font. Seriously, the crap you're trying to pull here is absurd and I'm seriously concerned when a moderator hasn't stepped in and warned you to not use tactics so unbecoming to the Serious Discussion section of the site.

And honestly, madam, I couldn't care less about how your mind works. Your mind, clearly, has led us around in circles in this discussion for the past 40 posts or so. This entire discussion has, so far, consisted of absurd drug and psychology stereotypes on your part, my clarification of said stereotypes, and then your excessive personal attacks in return. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Again, please learn to debate this issue in a rational way, or if you can not, you should probably just do us all a favor and leave this thread alone. It's clear that you do have a vendetta, despite your protests to the contrary - how can you not when your next sentences is "I have simply seen too much pain related to drug abuse."?

I certainly recognize that plenty of drugs have seriously adverse side effects if they are incorrectly made or taken, and that's why I and any non-suicidal person doesn't take those drugs in those ways. You're talking as though everyone who takes a drug might as well just save themselves the money and go play a game of Russian Roulette. It's not as simple as that. The people who take drugs casually do it because they enjoy it, and almost all of them understand the risks and adverse reactions that could happen before they even get into it, and even if they don't they could easily look them up.

It is a person's own personal choice to take drugs, and the risks associated with properly-made drugs that are taken at a reasonable dosage are so slim as to be entirely negligible. It's when a person decides to risk taking a drug they don't know the quality of or trying a seriously larger, untested dose of a drug they have or haven't tried before that almost all issues pop up. In which case, again, it is their choice. If a person wants to behave like an idiot with a potentially dangerous material, like a gun or a car or drugs, the consequences their responsibility and theirs alone. It is not the fault of the tool (gun, car, drugs), but entirely their own retarded decisions that caused any undesired effects.

Also, if I had a pot smoking clique, or even smoked pot at all after discovering how much it sucked, I'm pretty sure I'd have to kill myself for being one of the most boring douches in the universe. Seriously, pot? What the hell kind of drug is that?

I'd like to point out it was you who resorted to ad hominems, which have all been moderated out of your posts, something you should be a bit thankful for.

My statement to your irrelevance is not an ad hominem attack, it is merely me dismissing your case as irrelevant to my viewpoint.

I am not arguing the mundane, I am arguing the extreme, since it has need of adknowledgement.

Maybe all you do is pop pills or whatever, who knows what you do really. You don't clearly state it and all one can do is guess until the arrow strikes true.
It only gets worse for you though, if you consider pot a weak drug.

No matter how much time you take to write out your replies, my view will not falter.
Drugs can do irreparable damage to those who use them and to those around them.

Your inhumanly monstrous remarks as to human nature need not be adknowledged.

I have in depth knowledge of the human psyche, I have in depth knowledge to the adverse effects of drug use. I can absolutely cite to the contrary anything you might cite, and that is because of this world's nature. Conflict. Bold and beautiful, ever abundant. No matter what, someone out there disagrees and they have said so.

To be honest, your past remarks coupled with your actions, seem to bear a somewhat hypocritical nature. You criticize natural reaction, yet practice escapism from reality.
I have to say I don't understand that. Feel free to explain, or continue to misunderstand and be misunderstood.

... What are you talking about? None of my posts in this thread have ever been edited/deleted by a member of staff, and have only been edited by yours truly for the sake of improving my own scathing rhetoric.

I know this for a fact - as a retired staff member, *I* can actually see a list of what posts have been edited/deleted, by whom, and for what reason. Obviously, for the sake of confidentiality, I will not point out whose posts were deleted, their contents, or why they were deleted, but none were mine. Maybe you're confusing me with someone else? :3 I hope not - I thought I was slightly more memorable than that. <3

Also, since you asked about my drug history, I learned how to use the forum search engine just for you. :3

Also, you still haven't provided a single piece of evidence to actually explain why you'd know so much about the human psyche and drug use that the rest of us here could never have learned on our own. Please either do so soon or stop your absurd appeals to authority.

Andi has not, in fact, edited ad hominems out of any of her posts, since it is impossible to edit a post without leaving a handy footnote. (Well, okay, if you edit the post within five minutes there's no footnote, but that could hardly be the case here.)


Regardless, this thread has disintegrated into personal attacks that are going in circles, so I think I'll close it. As per usual, another thread on drugs can be started if anyone wants one, but let's avoid the personal arguments, ya?