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Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

Simple question really. You say you like the live and let live deal, but be it here on ZU, or in real life, Atheists challenge my beliefs. They have whole arsenals of information at times. So I ask you atheists: Why? Is there something wrong with Christians?
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

Because they are on a serch for truth, and when they think they have found it they want everyone to have the truth as well. Same as when we chrisitians go on missions or Evangilize.
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

Agreed with Puck. The problem isn't with the atheists and all their information against us, scientific and otherwise, but with Christians who neglect to understand that science is just as powerful an advocate for us as it is for them. We simply need to examine more closely the scientific nature of our beliefs, and investigate everything we can. It is far better to know for sure due to academic study, while holding firm to faith, than it is to simply stand with faith and say, "I believe, therefore it is."

1 Peter 3:15 and 2 Timothy 3:14-17 are important verses no one should forget. Studying the Bible itself can reveal many things about the faith.
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

Yes.

Also, why do Christians want to prove Atheists wrong? People just wanna go on, they wanna 'discuss', when really they only discuss for the sake of being heard, but not listening. It's like, "Ah, fresh meat." You know?

We discuss to learn the point of views of others, to understand it a bit more, but it's not like that anymore. You see something wrong, and you jump down the persons thoart.

Well, there are exceptions to the rule, of course, but for the most part.. it's just.. silly.
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

It's completely different at my school. All the Christians are always trying to prove me wrong, and I just listen. All Atheists are trying to do is get some of the real 'hard heads' to accept that their faith isn't the only one around. I've got friends of all religions, so I'm holding strong to my belief of no religion.
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

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Simple question really. You say you like the live and let live deal, but be it here on ZU, or in real life, Atheists challenge my beliefs. They have whole arsenals of information at times. So I ask you atheists: Why? Is there something wrong with Christians?
One could ask why Christianity seeks to disprove science, but that would be stooping to your level.
Here's a good question: After having been routed in other threads, why do some individuals make passive-aggressive flame bait threads with loaded questions and broad generalizations?
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

I am Christian and I do not seek to disprove science :/
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:22 PM
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

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One could ask why Christianity seeks to disprove science, but that would be stooping to your level.
Here's a good question: After having been routed in other threads, why do some individuals make passive-aggressive flame bait threads with loaded questions and broad generalizations?

I believe in evolution and I'm a Christian. How is that trying to disprove science? If one believes in a God, then one also believes that God invinted science, and therefore it follows his law.
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

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I believe in evolution and I'm a Christian. How is that trying to disprove science? If one believes in a God, then one also believes that God invinted science, and therefore it follows his law.
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Read between the lines. I'm saying his question is the same as asking something as thoughtless as "Why do Christians want to disprove atheists?" Its a reversal of the same question and it's silly in either direction.
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

OH I GET IT NOW, Sorry F3, I took your question far too literaly and I apologize.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:48 PM
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

Perhaps, they are merely trying to prove atheists wrong in the sense of example A:

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One could ask why Christianity seeks to disprove science, but that would be stooping to your level.
I don't know if you're an atheist or not, but by judging from this statement, I'm forced to ask, "Is it that atheists believe that religious or spiritual people throw away science and reality?" You should watch your words carefully.
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

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One could ask why Christianity seeks to disprove science, but that would be stooping to your level.
Stooping to our/my level? (stupid english has no determination between singular and plural)

You make is sound like asking a question is wrong. I am honestly curious as to why you wish to disprove us so. I know why Christians try to disprove atheism. Matthew 28. Simple as that.
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Here's a good question: After having been routed in other threads, why do some individuals make passive-aggressive flame bait threads with loaded questions and broad generalizations?
Curiosity. Generalizations are easier to work with at 10:30 11:30 ish. Also, I'm not trying to make it flame bait, I just want to know the motivation.
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Old 04-25-2008, 12:09 AM
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

From what I can tell, Puck's basically got the right idea here. I can only speak from personal experience, but every "confrontational" type of atheist I've met over the years has displayed something similar to the following beliefs:

- Absolute truth exists.

- Fundamentalist interpretations of religious doctrine are the "purest", or most definitive, form of that religion.

- The religion's teachings irreconcilably clash with the more valid "truth" that's been uncovered through scientific study.

- Either or both of the following: It's morally wrong to let people exist blind of the truth, and the religion's false doctrine is restrictive and/or damaging to society as a whole. (In addition, many seem to have a personal grudge against the church based on personal experience, whether they're willing to admit it or not.)

Thus a perceivably dominant and flawed belief system like Christianity must be opposed. That's the mindset of the most militant ones I've met, at least. Most atheists - including most of the ones here, I'd bet - don't particularly care about Christianity one way or another; they just feel persecuted when questions like these are leveled at them (which they are, to a certain extent) and get defensive about the subject in response. The ironic thing is that a lot of the Christian side's involvement is reactionary as well, in response to what they see as a deliberate effort by the secular forces of society to marginalize the importance of religion in everyday life (which is also true, to a certain extent).

There's your answer. It's a little disjointed and longer than it had to be, but whatever. I tried. F3 makes a good point in that it's probably not worth discussing any more; knowing this place, it'll just degenerate into Serious Business as usual.
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

I can't speak for all atheists, only myself. Its not that I'm trying to prove Christianity wrong, but, to get people to understand the Atheist side of the debate. To show, this is why we don't believe; History, Science, hundreds of other religions claiming to hold the truth as well, etc. To keep religion out of science classrooms, to promote good science, etc.

Greg Laden's Blog : Florida Academic Freedom Bill Passes in State Senate
I can't find the article now, but with this bill, kids can now say the Earth is around 6 to 10 thousand years old, in a Science classroom!

Some good videos:

YouTube - Atheist

YouTube - Why do atheists care about religion?
While I don't hold all of the same positions as this video, its pretty good.

Following videos are satire:

YouTube - The Atheist Delusion

YouTube - God Doesn't Exist? Prove It!

YouTube - Checkmate, Atheists!

I thought they were a little funny.

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I forgot to mention this, but atheists are considered the least trustworthy people in the United States. Don't you think thats a little wrong?
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Re: Why are Atheists so set on Proving Christianity Wrong?

Once, I was working at a counter (at a guitar store) and this crazy Atheist guy popped up. He asked me if I believed in God, then ranted at me about how God couldn't possibly exist, while saying things like "so why do you believe something so stupid? Is is because your daddy told you to?" Then after ten minutes of ranting the manager finally shooed him out of the store.

I've had bad experiences with crazy atheists (or perhaps we should call them antitheists) before, but I know that it's only a small percentage of them. The reason that a larger amount of the atheists seem to be be passionate about the subject on forum boards is because posting in a Serious Business topic generally means that you care about the subject enough to post, so most of the passive atheists (and passive Christians and passive etc.) stay clear of the subject in the first place.
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