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Old 03-08-2008, 05:31 PM
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Blue Knight's Random Philisophical thoughts

Every now and then I come up with an interesting philisophical question that I wish I could ask everyone.

I only just now thought of the idea of making a thread to post these random questions and thoughts about the nature of the world around us.

So here we go.

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-Sometimes I wonder...are the people who call themselves "free thinkers" really free, or are they simply denying the existance of something due to fear of the unknown?

-Why is it that it's accepted that we can't understand Love scientifically, yet other things like magic and spirituality we blatantley disregaurd as foolishness?

-Ever wonder what it would be like to ask one of those animals that can communicate through sign language what they think about the world's greatest controversies? Think about it-they're animals, those that can think might think clearer then the human mind, which is quick to letting human rationalization cloud its judgement.

-The human eye can only look outwards, never inwards. At the same time, it's easy for us to see the problems of others, but rarely are we able to realise the problems we might have within. This is one of the great advantages of having friends- we have an extra pair of eyes that can see things our own eyes can't.

-Sometimes we can't wrap our heads around a concept. Perhaps it's because our heads are in the way?

-As the famous line from the movie "The Prestiege" goes, "Are you watching closely?"

-Contrary to popular belief, God dosen't have the ability to Damn people. Mankind pretty much takes care of that by itself.
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:13 PM
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-Sometimes I wonder...are the people who call themselves "free thinkers" really free, or are they simply denying the existance of something due to fear of the unknown?
Most scientists would call themselves free thinkers, and their job is to seek out the unknown, study it, and explain it to the rest of the world.

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-Why is it that it's accepted that we can't understand Love scientifically, yet other things like magic and spirituality we blatantley disregaurd as foolishness?
Love is understood scientifically.

It's a favourite canard of anti-science groups/people that it isn't, but that is not true.

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-Ever wonder what it would be like to ask one of those animals that can communicate through sign language what they think about the world's greatest controversies? Think about it-they're animals, those that can think might think clearer then the human mind, which is quick to letting human rationalization cloud its judgement.
Why on earth would animals be clearer thinkers?

Koko, who is probably who you're thinking of, has the intelligence of...I believe it was a 6-year old child. We would probably do better, then, to ask 7-year old children for advice.

And I rather doubt that they could understand social issues. All studies of them have concluded that they don't "do" abstract well. Monkeys that can communicate can do basic stuff ("Me apple eat", for example.) and even create insults and explain simple plans, but good luck explaining economic issues to them.

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-Sometimes we can't wrap our heads around a concept. Perhaps it's because our heads are in the way?
Er, what? To be honest this sounds like pseudo-philosophy, something that sounds deep without actually being so.



Honestly, I don't really see this topic going anywhere, but I'll leave it open for now to see.
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Old 03-08-2008, 08:43 PM
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Er, what? To be honest this sounds like pseudo-philosophy, something that sounds deep without actually being so.
I would have to agree with GDwarf on this one.

I mean, what is it suggesting? Stop thinking about a problem, and it will be solved? The key to understanding is to not attempt to understand?

Ignorance is bliss, however, ignorance wont lead to the understanding of a concept.
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Old 03-08-2008, 09:03 PM
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Re: Blue Knight's Random Philisophical thoughts

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-Sometimes I wonder...are the people who call themselves "free thinkers" really free, or are they simply denying the existance of something due to fear of the unknown?
Denying the existence of what exactly?
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-Why is it that it's accepted that we can't understand Love scientifically, yet other things like magic and spirituality we blatantley disregaurd as foolishness?
Because magic should be able to be tested, while with spirituality, its easier to disregard something you can't test (that I know of) than to believe in something that may or not may exist.
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True, sometimes others can see something about yourself that you don't see about yourself.
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I mean, what is it suggesting? Stop thinking about a problem, and it will be solved? The key to understanding is to not attempt to understand?
It does work sometimes. You've never had a problem you could solve, stopped thinking about, went to work on something else, and then out of nowhere you come up with an answer for the problem?
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Love is understood scientifically.
It is? the basic instincts of love maybe, but the complexities of love I highly doubt.
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Re: Blue Knight's Random Philisophical thoughts

Love can indeed be explained by science.

Even if it couldn't be currently, anything that is not 100% random can be explained by science, and love is certainly not 100% random.
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Old 03-09-2008, 05:27 AM
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Re: Blue Knight's Random Philisophical thoughts

Blue Knight, am I to believe that you consider rational thinking something to discard? It seems so, from your questions. Note, I'm not insulting you, if this could be interpreted as such, but rather that your questions criticise rational thinking.

Love is acknowledged, we have proof that it exists. We do not have proof that magic or spirituality exists. And what existence that we can't understand are free thinkers denying?
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Old 03-09-2008, 11:03 PM
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I would have to agree with GDwarf on this one.

I mean, what is it suggesting? Stop thinking about a problem, and it will be solved? The key to understanding is to not attempt to understand?

Ignorance is bliss, however, ignorance wont lead to the understanding of a concept.
I think perhaps it may be a somewhat "out there" version of "think outside the box".

Like that concept where I had to touch all nine dots in five straight lines without running over a dot I already touched. I kept running all these scenarios through my head, and tried to think clean cut.

It turned out, there wasn't a rule that you had to stay in the box. -__-
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