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Old 02-01-2008, 05:10 PM
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Homosexuality – Rejected By Society

The following is an exact copy-paste of the last English essay I composed (I got an A for it):

Homosexuality – Rejected By Society

I would like to bring the readers’ attention towards a controversial subject, which is the morality of homosexuality. I believe this to be a serious matter, and therefore I will address it seriously.

Although there are many different societies, generally, within our society, homosexuality, and therefore homosexuals, has been rejected. My country does not recognize civil unions or same-sex marriages. Now, all societies have their reasons, but usually these reasons are based on traditions. Change is different, but it is a risk. It isn’t always bad, but there is no assurance that it will be good. This may be one reason why my country still doesn’t allow same sex marriages. However, even these traditions have had their reasons in their time of creation.

So let’s look deeper into the traditional arguments against homosexuality. First of all, there are the teachings of Christianity, my country’s primary religion. In the Bible, God states that He doesn’t approve of men engaging in sexual actions with other men. I am not sure if God stated something along the same lines for women, but the male gender was the dominant one during the time that humans were conveyed God’s words.

A second thing that comes to mind is the situation of being different. Out of homosexuality and heterosexuality, homosexuality is the minority sexual preference type. When a person is different in some way to another person, there is the possibility that one of these people are in the wrong. This isn’t always the case, but it is still a possibility. Usually, the majority is the correct fraction in these situations, and thus there is a natural opinion that homosexuality, the minority, is in the wrong, if there is a correct sexual preference type.

It is possible that these two analyses constitute the traditional view that homosexuality is immoral.

Now, the next point doesn’t label homosexuality immoral, but it does present homosexuality’s incorrectness. Here is the practical reason why homosexuality is incorrect: all sexual desires exist to aid the execution of reproduction, and the sexual desires of homosexuals will not result into reproduction, and therefore homosexual’s sexual desires are false and incorrect. So yes, homosexuality is incorrect, but this doesn’t mean that it is immoral.

Now, the final point I will compose that is against homosexual marriage is the fundamental, secular point of marriage: the union of two individuals that receive tax benefits to aid the raising of children. (Although the concept of marriage was probably first created to compromise the economic division of the two genders, in modern time, this division no longer exists in developed countries.) Homosexuals are unable to reproduce by themselves, and hence there is no economic reason for their entitlement to marriage/civil unions. However, here is where the turning point of this controversy happens… homosexuals have the ability to adopt. Should they be allowed to? Well, I believe that individuals may adopt, so the arguments stating that children require a set of parents with both genders doesn’t really hold up. Not only does this negate the fundamental argument I stated against homosexuality, but other points follow. Some heterosexual partners are infertile, and some are too old to reproduce. Some don’t even want children. Yet all these people are still entitled to marriage, but why? Could it be because they love each other and wish to declare that love to the world? Well, personally, I don’t think it is very fair to begrudge homosexuals that right of marriage.

This brings me back to a point I made earlier, the situation of being different. If you go back a good few years, black people were slaves and women were secondary citizens. Were the changes that were made regarding these two situations good? Maybe not for the powerful white males, but the change was fair and just. The change was morally rich. This doesn’t negate the point I presented, but it still challenges that argument’s validity, and some thought comes to mind.

And then with the religious point, well Christianity isn’t the only religion, yet many religions have marriage implemented in them. In fact, one religion, Reformed Judaism, supports homosexual rights. Reform Jews understand that all people are God’s creation, and were made by God, and therefore all people must be respected.

Although it may not be true that homosexuals are born that way, it is certainly not true that they choose to be homosexual. Homosexuality is developed, just like intelligence, creativity and charisma. In the same way a person can turn out to be uncreative or creative, a person can turn out to be heterosexual or homosexual. Is it really a creative person’s fault that they turned out to be creative?

If any reader is a heterosexual that believes homosexuality is chosen, than just think to yourself what it would be like to change your sexual preference. Take away all the morality principles for a second, and the experience would still be distressing, uncomfortable and weird. Is it really fair to force people to go through this experience just so that they may exercise the right to marriage?

I shall end on this note: “live, and let live.”

Thank you for reading.
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:01 PM
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Homosexuality is developed, just like intelligence, creativity and charisma.
Hmm. not sure about that. You should look at the Prenatal hormone theory. I would put it down to being largely hormonal.

This is altogether a very agreeable article. I wonder what the responses will be like?
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:05 PM
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Hmm. not sure about that. You should look at the Prenatal hormone theory. I would put it down to being largely hormonal.

This is altogether a very agreeable article. I wonder what the responses will be like?
Well, even properties of intelligence is genetic, so it still works out I guess.

Thanks for the reply.
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:16 PM
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Re: Homosexuality – Rejected By Society

Just read it and pretty good.

I can't really pull you up on anything the only think I had to say Box already beat me to.
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:19 PM
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Just read it and pretty good.

I can't really pull you up on anything the only think I had to say Box already beat me to.
I guess I may have gotten the reason for homosexuality to exist incorrectly, but my principal point was that it wasn't chosen.
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:23 PM
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I guess I may have gotten the reason for homosexuality to exist incorrectly, but my principal point was that it wasn't chosen.
Well its existed as long as heterosexuality unless of course your going by the Adam & Eve bible theory, interesting posts are that times like Ancient Rome, it wasn't uncommon for men to have concubines/sex slaves who were men, the emperor Caligula was a bisexual man so obviously older cultures had no problems with it.

The main thing that has caused so many problems with acceptance and homosexuality, gender and skin color is the bible.
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Old 02-01-2008, 06:37 PM
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I have no problem with homosexuality on a moral basis, in fact, my problem is with morals in general. I am not fond of homosexuality from a pragmatic basis alone.
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:11 AM
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I heard that homosexuality comes from the genes, but I don't know whether this is true or not. I'm completely fine with homosexuality in this world. At least it's not killing anyone else. Know what I mean?

And what if a woman looks at a strip magazine and finds the girls in there hot and sexy. I'm not sure that it means that the woman is a lesbian. Same goes for a male who would call another guy "hot." It doesn't mean that they are completely homosexual. It just means that they like their look and they may want to look like them, but it doesn't mean that they will stalk them and touch them or whatever. They just like their physical appearance.

I find people who think that homosexual people are disgusting are just sick. Ever heard of the saying that we should love everyone around us? No matter what race, gender, etc. This should apply to homosexuals. They aren't doing any harm at all, not physical harm at least.
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:15 AM
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I heard that homosexuality comes from the genes, but I don't know whether this is true or not.
It depends what you mean. If you mean 'passed on genetically', like a trait of some sort, there is the obvious problem that a homosexual wouldnt be naturally drawn to the opposite sex (which is what would lead to that trait being passed on in the first place).
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:31 AM
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It depends what you mean. If you mean 'passed on genetically', like a trait of some sort, there is the obvious problem that a homosexual wouldnt be naturally drawn to the opposite sex (which is what would lead to that trait being passed on in the first place).
^ Yeah I meant that. By passing the gene on from the parents to the child. I saw it on this interesting show where there were two identical twin brothers. One was what we would call normal (straight) and the other was gay (homosexual) They weren't shown to the world much, as they were raised on a remote farm, so the gay twin brother must've learnt it from the traits in him which he thinks is normal to act the way he acts. He finds men attractive. When he was younger, he preferred girl toys and accessories than army toys and cars. He was extremely concerned about his hygiene and his looks, even when he was at a young age.

The parents were as normal as every other parent in the world. They raised them exactly the same. This doesn't show that homosexual people purposely become gay. They are basically born as homosexuals. I don't think this applies to all homosexual people. It was a very interesting show to watch.
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The parents were as normal as every other parent in the world. They raised them exactly the same. This doesn't show that homosexual people purposely become gay. They are basically born as homosexuals.
Sounds kind of like me. Except for the Hygiene concern, girls toys and concern about looks. Yeah, youll be bound to find these sorts of examples around.
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Old 02-02-2008, 06:58 AM
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Sounds kind of like me. Except for the Hygiene concern, girls toys and concern about looks. Yeah, youll be bound to find these sorts of examples around.
^ You're homosexual? Hey, I have no problem if you are. As I said, I have friends who are strong homosexuals and they are the nicest people that I know of. They develop depression though because since most of the society don't accept them as equal human beings, they feel as though there is no where to go. I hate people who hate homosexuals because of how they see the same sex. It's just disgusting. It's basically like racism or sexism or whatever.

So I think it's in the genes. Why hate someone who didn't have a choice in who they are when they were born? No one can do anything about it, so we just have to accept it.
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^ You're homosexual? Hey, I have no problem if you are. As I said, I have friends who are strong homosexuals and they are the nicest people that I know of. They develop depression though because since most of the society don't accept them as equal human beings, they feel as though there is no where to go. I hate people who hate homosexuals because of how they see the same sex. It's just disgusting. It's basically like racism or sexism or whatever.
The truth is, I wouldnt really know about any of that. I live in such a nice, laidback place, I actually dont think I have suffered any real discrimination of any sort. I pity anyone who has, though.
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There are other explinations which also point to the conclusion of no choice (which I agree with), and consider more likely.
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Old 02-02-2008, 07:22 AM
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^ I'd like to learn more on this issue.

It's lucky that you live in a place where they happily accept you. Sadly, the whole world isn't like that. You get individuals or communities that are just against it all. It sounds as though homosexuality is something of a disability where the individual can't help it. It's just sad that some people find it sick, but they can't help it.

Man. Where is the love in this world!?
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Hell, people don't even have to agree with homosexuality to agree with gay marriage.

Marriage gives certain financial benefits to its two participants. Therefore it is not simply a moral/religious practice, it can be considered a financial contract as much as life insurance. Some might think this a perverse view of marriage, but no one can really deny it. That seems, nowadays, to be the reason more than half the times when people decide to marry; the aforementioned benefits.

To deny this to any full citizen(s) isn't constitutional.

I realize that's sort of off topic, but so far this thread has been rather one-sided so I don't know what to say other than, "I agree".
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Old 02-02-2008, 08:08 AM
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To deny this to any full citizen(s) isn't constitutional.
I am not sure if it isn't constitutional. See, the constitution allows anyone to marry any person of the opposite gender (with a minimum age requirement). Therefore, even if homosexual marriage was banned, it would still be constitutional (because homosextuals are entitled to marry anyone from the opposite gender (with a minimum age requirement)). However, this thread's purpose is to basicaly challenge the constitution, because the constitution is incorrect regarding that area.


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I realize that's sort of off topic, but so far this thread has been rather one-sided so I don't know what to say other than, "I agree".
This thread fails because it seem to be only one sided. We need sugarpoultry!
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