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Old 01-24-2008, 07:53 PM
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The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

...But still, they come. Yes folks, there was life on Mars. And yes folks, they emigrated, to a place in the sun. Earth. Now these aliens have settled in... wait for it... Denmark. Yes, Denmark. Apparently.



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OK, I think it may be a *tad* far-fetched to say Martians settled in Denmark. I'm not ruling it out or anything, but... well, actually, I am.

However, the image is interesting. It can't be faked as such, because it came from NASA, who are, as you can probably expect, denying that it is a picture of an alien, and claiming it is a shadow, or some rocks. That doesn't look like it to me however.

I think a possible explanation is that some clever but pathetic individual, who is unfortunately a complete saddo (sp?) with wasted intelligence, has somehow managed to interfere with the probe and give it false images. I don't know how secure NASA is though, maybe that's impossible. But it doesn't look like a natural non-living thing, nor is it sensible to conclude that NASA faked it, and that only leaves a few options, one of which is that we are looking at a real live Martian.

However, while I believe there is life on other planets, and that there may be extra-terrestrial life on Mars, I think the likelihood that those lifeforms would actually be humanoid is pretty slim.

What do you guys think of this startling new development in the search for life on Mars?
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Old 01-24-2008, 07:56 PM
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

I think it is a very handsome rock with some nice shape to it. It sort of reminds me of "The Thinker" statue from this angle, and since it is shaped like a man, I sincerely doubt it's an alien lifeform, and especially that it's a Denmarkian Space Mermaid.
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

eh.
That's my initial response.
The X-files geek in me wants to jump at saying that this is real. I'l admit it does look convincing, and NASA's not known for faking any of their images or reports. Let's just say I think there is a "Reasonable chance" that this is real.

I'm kinda the ZU alien guy, I'll definately be looking into this more. Expect more posts from me on this topic, Guy!
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

Behold the power of pareidolia.

It is an interesting rock, but that's all it is.

You'll notice that no link to the original (non-magnified) image is provided. It also mentions that the image is magnified substantially. This is probably because if we had the original we'd see just how small he is.

I can't tell distance or height accurately from the picture we have, but I wouldn't be surprised if this "Martian" is a couple of inches tall, especially based on the size of the rocks around him.

Ever notice how no humanoids are that small? There's a reason for that, it's a horribly inefficient body design for such a size.
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

NASA are trying to refute it though - so wouldn't it make sense for them to show the original and say just what you did, if that were the case?
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

NASA isn't trying to refute it.

Besides, do you know how hard it is to find original images?

There are billions of pictures taken by these probes. They have reference numbers so that you can keep track of them. If you don't know the reference number then it's impossible to locate any specific image. (At 1sec/image it would take you well over a decade to hunt through them all.)

The person who "discovered" this photo conveniently forgot to tell anyone what number it was.
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

I agree that it is far-fetched. Hell, even unlikely. But whose to say it isn't? For all we know it could be. Maybe this martian is a few inches tall.
But, even if it's not a living being, does that rule out the possibility that it was put there by somthing?

EDIT: The more I look at it, It looks like the Sandpeople from Star-Wars.
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Old 01-24-2008, 08:42 PM
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

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NASA isn't trying to refute it.
Actually, the link I provided is not where I first saw this. There was another, more detailed report, which showed NASA trying to refute it with stories about rocks and shadows, but I couldn't find that page again, so provided that one instead.
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Old 01-24-2008, 08:54 PM
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

Well, people have found the image in question (fortunately the person who found it originally took it from a sample of images, not from the full catalogue.)

Here it is:



Now, that is scaled down. This is a good thing. At full scale it would be 5628x1632.

A link to the full picture: http://www.planetary.org/image/A1366...alley_half.jpg

It's difficult to spot the "Martian", since he's so tiny. At absolute most he's 6cm (2 inches or so) tall.

In addition, do you know how colour photos are taken by space probes? They take a red picture, then a blue picture, then a green picture. They then combine all three.

In order to get a non-blurred picture of the "Martian" he'd have to be...as still as a stone.

Finally, pictures were taken of "him" at different angles. Oddly enough, he doesn't move at all in any of them, despite their taking place over 40 minutes. (http://www.planetary.org/image/sasquatch_montage.png).

Evidently he is patient beyond belief. Or, you know, a rock.
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Old 01-24-2008, 08:58 PM
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

thats not a humanoid, its a tiny rock, carved by the martian winds
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

First, what's the problem with being so small? If their evolution were seperate from ours, why not scale?

Second, maybe their movement would be slower than ours, almost as if they were on a different time. Or perhaps they just simply move slowly. Maybe it's dead. Maybe it's a statue. Who knows.
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

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First, what's the problem with being so small? If their evolution were seperate from ours, why not scale?
Because it's an inefficient design that doesn't scale well.

There's a reason that insects look the way they do, and not like tiny people.

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Second, maybe their movement would be slower than ours, almost as if they were on a different time.
"He" literally didn't move at all for 40 minutes. There is nothing on Earth, save some insects, that can do that.

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Or perhaps they just simply move slowly. Maybe it's dead. Maybe it's a statue. Who knows.
A statue? His brain would be minuscule. There's no way that these things could be smarter than, say, a praying mantis.

It's an interesting-looking rock, I'll grant you, but it's definitely not a tiny person.
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

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Evidently he is patient beyond belief. Or, you know, a rock.
Lol, well what's wrong with what i said? That he could be put there by some nerdish hoaxer, who somehow hacked NASA?

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"He" literally didn't move at all for 40 minutes. There is nothing on Earth, save some insects, that can do that.
No, but this is not Earth.

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A statue? His brain would be minuscule. There's no way that these things could be smarter than, say, a praying mantis.
A) Since when have statues had brains,
and B) Who said he needed to be smarter than a praying mantis. He could still be life without being of near-human intelligence.
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

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Because it's an inefficient design that doesn't scale well.

There's a reason that insects look the way they do, and not like tiny people.


"He" literally didn't move at all for 40 minutes. There is nothing on Earth, save some insects, that can do that.
Well, like I said, it could be dead. We're not talking about Earth, are we?


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A statue? His brain would be minuscule. There's no way that these things could be smarter than, say, a praying mantis.
What are you basing this on?

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It's an interesting-looking rock, I'll grant you, but it's definitely not a tiny person.
Of course it's not a tiny person. Tiny martian, maybe.

EDIT: Guy beat me to the punch
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Re: The chances of anything coming from Mars are a million to one, he said...

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Lol, well what's wrong with what i said? That he could be put there by some nerdish hoaxer, who somehow hacked NASA?
Unlikely, given the number of images and how consistent he is throughout them.

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No, but this is not Earth.
While true, it seems reasonable to assume that life on other planets would undergo convergent evolution, just as life on different continents does here.

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A) Since when have statues had brains,
The statue builder's brain would have to be minuscule.

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and B) Who said he needed to be smarter than a praying mantis. He could still be life without being of near-human intelligence.
If it's a statue then whatever made it must have a concept of aesthetics (or similar), which implies a very, very high level of intelligence.

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Well, like I said, it could be dead. We're not talking about Earth, are we?
Or, you know, it could be a rock.

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What are you basing this on?
Brain size. The shape is roughly the same size as a praying mantis.

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Of course it's not a tiny person. Tiny martian, maybe.
"Person" is not limited to "human".
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