US Presidential Primaries

Really this time! Whenever I tried to add the poll, it said that the "database isn't available" or something like that. So let's see.

So yeah. Huckabee and Obama just won in Iowa, so I thought this thread should be made. Discuss the candidates and such, which ones you like/dislike and why.

It's been a long time since I've posted a poll, but if I remember correctly, don't you first post the thread, then add the poll afterward?

^ Yeah, still throws me off.
But if we're talking about canidates.... I personally am an Obama man all the way. America really needs a democratic president now, plus I think it's about time that we had somthing different from the White-Christian-Protestant President. But since I'll be underage I accept this philosophy.

"If god had of intended us to vote, he would have given us canidates"

Not to worry, Fadock, I'm likewise an Obama backer, but unlike you, I'm 27 and very much eligible to vote. I think Dennis K. might be an even better match for me, but he stands no chance. And besides, Barack and I don't disagree too fundamentally.

On the Republican side, even though I'm pretty far to the left personally, yet I find Ron Paul to be the most respectable candidate for the Repubs.

I'm of the persuasion that this election is more or less a matter of picking who you want to shoot you. In the end, there's still a bullet in your chest.

I'm not confident in any of the candidates' abilities to enact the changes the United States needs to move forward in the areas in which it is deficient. And if I am confident in them in that area, they're either insane (Ron Paul) or I disagree with them fundamentally on other issues (candidates on the left).

Give me a pro-life Democrat who's not Huckabee, and I'll be a happy bird.

Erm, I'm undecided, but either Republican or Independent. I haven't done enough research as of yet to decide on a candidate specifically. Although I would probably never vote Democrat, Obama seems to be a respectable guy all around, as opposed to Clinton.

I'm excited about voting for the first time!! XD

plus I think it's about time that we had somthing different from the White-Christian-Protestant President.

That's an immensely irrelevant issue when running for president.

I can't say I know enough about any of the candidates to clearly back one up. Obama keeps saying we need to make changes, but he never really clarifies well enough. His campaign is basically built around the fact that he's "an outsider", because he hasn't been involved in Congress as long as his competitors, so he has more of a chance to change things. I don't buy it at all.

That said, of the Dems he's narrowly my favorite. For the Republicans Romney is just about my least favorite, McCain being actually the most respectable one in my opinion...if only because he seems to be the most genuine on his policies.

I can't choose a Republican candidate, but I can tell you who I dislike, Obama and Hillary...

Obama, is not qualified for the job, he is too young and hasn't had any experience guiding a mass of people. Would you elect someone who really hasn't done anything that he will need to one up in the White house? I wouldn't.(EX- Gvr. Huckabee was a governer thus he has experience)

Hillary, Hillary is basically saying I watched my husband do it for 8 years i can too. That like saying, My husband is a plumber, I have been watching him plumb for 26 years, I bet I can do it. That it STUPID. Besides she has only been a senator which puts her in the EXACT same boat as Obama Binladen.

Besides America is to racist and sexist to elect a chick and a black guy to office, sorry its true, even though its a good thing this time.

EDIT - Remember the loser who took the flag off his lapel, he lost my respect that day and forever. Electing Obama would be like tieing a cannonball to your feet before you hang yourself.

I can't choose a Republican candidate, but I can tell you who I dislike, Obama and Hillary...

Obama, is not qualified for the job, he is too young and hasn't had any experience guiding a mass of people. Would you elect someone who really hasn't done anything that he will need to one up in the White house? I wouldn't.(EX- Gvr. Huckabee was a governer thus he has experience)

Hillary, Hillary is basically saying I watched my husband do it for 8 years i can too. That like saying, My husband is a plumber, I have been watching him plumb for 26 years, I bet I can do it. That it STUPID. Besides she has only been a senator which puts her in the EXACT same boat as Obama Binladen.

Besides America is to racist and sexist to elect a chick and a black guy to office, sorry its true, even though its a good thing this time.

EDIT - Remember the loser who took the flag off his lapel, he lost my respect that day and forever. Electing Obama would be like tieing a cannonball to your feet before you hang yourself.

Hold on, you want someone with experience running the country? How are they gonna get that? These people cannot have experience of being president unless they've been president, right? And since no foreigner can be president, you're never going to get someone with experience running a country in a primary.

And the pin started to represent something else during that period. Wearing the American flag on your lapel started to become a sign for backing the conflict in Iraq. And Obama was not discrediting the country in any way, he just didn't want to be grouped in with that and show his patriotism some other way.

Obama Binladen

Cretin.

I like Obama because I watched him do a speech in Springfield, Illinois, where I used to live. (Bush made a speech in front of the new Lincoln Museum/Library -_-)

Obama also because he is fit for president. Maybe because he deserves the title of the firs Black president.

Originally Posted by Flames of Valor

I can't choose a Republican candidate, but I can tell you who I dislike, Obama and Hillary...

Obama, is not qualified for the job, he is too young and hasn't had any experience guiding a mass of people. Would you elect someone who really hasn't done anything that he will need to one up in the White house? I wouldn't.(EX- Gvr. Huckabee was a governer thus he has experience)

Hillary, Hillary is basically saying I watched my husband do it for 8 years i can too. That like saying, My husband is a plumber, I have been watching him plumb for 26 years, I bet I can do it. That it STUPID. Besides she has only been a senator which puts her in the EXACT same boat as Obama Binladen.

You know they are both senators too, right?

But in any case, studies show that experience plays much less of a role than we thought.

Besides America is to racist and sexist to elect a chick and a black guy to office, sorry its true, even though its a good thing this time.

Even if that were true, would that mean we shouldn't try? Just the fact that they've come so far is a huge step.

EDIT - Remember the loser who took the flag off his lapel, he lost my respect that day and forever.

Did you listen to why he took it off?

Electing Obama would be like tieing a cannonball to your feet before you hang yourself.

Why?

Mitt Romney is my man. I really like what he has to offer, and he's just what we'll need for our economy.

I watched the Democratic debate tonight. I'm by no means a professional analyst, but I do have a few observations to share.

First, I have to admit that Barack did not look good tonight. I was almost a little uncomfortable watching it since I threw my support behind him going in. I think he is going to begin to realize that when you're on top of the hill, you're going to be targeted; moreover, that hype can only carry you so far (to be fair, the hype isn't really his fault).

But more concerning than that was the substance behind his message. He just seems much less rehearsed in the details of policy. He has a strong, positive message for change, and this in itself might get him elected. He can inspire the nation like John Kennedy.

However, listening to him talk about substantive material made me a little worried. During speeches, it is easy to be moved by his powerful rhetoric. But during this debate, Clinton seemed more articulate, and frankly, more experienced.

She is a very smart woman. I thought she even handled the Obama/Edwards double team rather gracefully, though others might argue that she lost her cool. Nonetheless, she spoke eloquently--a tough thing to do when you're attacked. I think she did a far better job of addressing specific issues, whereas Obama and Edwards are merely advocating a broader message.

To his credit, Obama didn't make a huge gaffe that will jeopardize his shot of winning, and that is what ultimately will matter. I did sympathize with him at one point--he was put in a very awkward position when the commentator (not Charlie Gibson) suggested he was more likable than Clinton. Clinton responded brilliantly in a way that showed she could be likable, and Obama sort of muffed the response (not that I would have known what to say--it was a tough one). Nothing that matters in the grand scheme of things by any stretch.

Richardson is a likable candidate too. However, since he does not have a genuine chance of attaining nomination, the other candidates and even the commentator are relatively easy on him. He is under the least pressure and is more free to say as he wants without worrying about a huge blunder.

In conclusion, I think Clinton, Edwards, and Richardson improved their standing in this debate at the expense of Obama. Whether or not this translates into poll results remains to be seen.

Hillary, Hillary is basically saying I watched my husband do it for 8 years i can too. That like saying, My husband is a plumber, I have been watching him plumb for 26 years, I bet I can do it. That it STUPID. Besides she has only been a senator which puts her in the EXACT same boat as Obama Binladen.

Wow. Sort of like Guiliani uses his 9/11 leadership as a crutch? What a cop out argument.

And Obama Binladen? You are unbelievable. Please, for your own sake, step outside your own ridiculously narrow partisan beliefs. That you resort to such immature and irrelevant trash is very indicative of your lack of credibility and general knowledge.

I'll tell you one thing, I don't think I'd ever want run for president. All the crap you have to go through? All the exposure and people magnifying nit picks? Nuh-uh. That isn't me.

Originally Posted by Blizzaga

I'll tell you one thing, I don't think I'd ever want run for president. All the crap you have to go through? All the exposure and people magnifying nit picks? Nuh-uh. That isn't me.

That is the joy of politics. It's like a game. I care less about who wins then the process. The process is what makes it great.