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Old 12-20-2007, 03:29 PM
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Victimisation of White people

I know that I will get flamed and flamed and flamed for making this thread. People are going to say
"oh, the Whites are treated better than everyone else".
But that is untrue. In the United Kingdom, there are more Black racists than White racists. Black people are allowed to say things like
"White trash "
and get away with it.
If a White person mentions ANYTHING which remotely points out a flaw amongst a Black person, then they are arrested within a few seconds.
Also, in the United Kingdom, jobs are given to foreigners over Whites, even if the White person is better qualified.
People in the UK are advised not to put up British flags or be patriotic, BY OUR OWN GOVERNMENT! How unfair is that, when Black people are putting up Jamaica flags in their windows and being praised for it! Why can't immigrants be friendly? To be fair, the majority of Indians are friendly, but Muslims are very hostile. They want to stop Christmas, our celebration of Jesus Christ.
How ungrateful is that? Our stupid government chucks a British family onto the streets, moves in a foreign family, does them countless favours, and the foreigners still dislike Britain!

Now, does anybody agree that the abandoning of White people (not just in Britain) is actually happening? Or are you just going to bury your heads in the sand?


(By the way, if you read the above, you will realise that NONE of it is racist, and is not intended to be)
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Old 12-20-2007, 04:04 PM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

Well, to be honest, I've never encountered a muslim who had a problem with Christmas, nor any Buddists, nor any Hindus nor any other person from another religion, or even a lack of it. The only people who seem to have issues with Christmas appears to be the overzealous, politically correct, elitist brigade of extremist liberalists who seem to hate anything British. The media for one thing also enjoys highlighting these stories and making sure we know about so we buy their papers and get all steamed up over it. Bad news always sells, you know.

I'm not sure about the flags buisiness either. I heard a bunch of stories in The Sun/Express/Daily Fail about the council trying to get people to take down their flags as it was suggested they 'offended' other people from different cultures, but where I live, there's a couple of people who'll fly the flag from their windows or drape it down from their balconies. Again, I suspect this is less to do with muslims and more to do with mischievous journelists and bored pen-pushers.

Some parts about ethnic crime I can understand. A good friend of mine who went to see a movie premiere in London was punched in the back of the head by a black man while waiting in the queue and was verbally harassed about being a fat white s**t, yet when she slapped him and pushed him away in retaliation, the policeman that had been watching nearby told her that SHE was in the wrong about it, even though this guy was about six foot tall and she barely above five feet. She didn't even bother reporting the assault afterwards considering that the policeman didn't even seem bothered that she'd been slapped about in full public view. I'm not sure if the policeman didn't see him hitting her first and only saw her slapping him back, but I have noticed a growing difference in comparison between black on white crime and white on black crime, at least so the papers suggest. I try not to read too much into it, though.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:14 PM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

Hero, most of what you say is correct, but there are a few flaws, which I will outline here:

Firstly, you say Indians are nice but muslims are hostile. Firstly, you seem to be making the mistake that was made in the muslims thread, and wrongly identifying Islam as a race, rather than a religion. Muslims may be white-British too you know.

Secondly, most muslims do not have a problem with Christmas, it is our pathetic government that causes the problem, as they seem to listen only to those few who do take issue with it. We need a better government, but we won't get one. I predict a revolution sometime soon.

Now on the agreement thing. Yes. Some black boxer, I don't remember his name, I don't follow boxing, said he would win a fight because he vowed never to lose to some "white trash." Yet if his opponent had said he would never lose to a black [insert-insult] then he would probably have been disqualified for racism.

I agree, most people bury their heads in the sand.
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Old 12-20-2007, 07:39 PM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

I have never taken notice but it is true that now Blacks are starting to take what Whites were 20 or so years ago. Pretty soon there will be more foreigners than Americans in the US...
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Old 12-20-2007, 08:00 PM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

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I have never taken notice but it is true that now Blacks are starting to take what Whites were 20 or so years ago. Pretty soon there will be more foreigners than Americans in the US...
In Britain, I think there already is. Hero, ever been to London?

EDIT: now I see your location says London. I feel stupid.
But anyway, there are loads of foreigners there aren't there? And most don't seem to speak English. I went to McDonalds in Oxford Street, and the woman didn't know what a cheeseburger was. I'm not racist, but they should not employ people to speak to the public if they don't speak the language. It is ridiculous.
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Old 12-20-2007, 08:03 PM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

^ Agreed. If you're supposed to work somewhere, you'd better speak the primary language of that country.

People get offended too easily. And people listen to them for some reason.
This isn't just about racism, but about everything! races, religion, feminism... you can't say anything anymore without someone getting pissed. I'm getting damn tired of it and if anyone tells me to stop doing stuff like flagging, wearing blue-yellow clothes or anything similiar, that person is gonna get verbally beaten up so hard he/she would probably report me.

EDIT: This brings up another questions: what about jokes about certain groups? I know that I'v been pulling quite a few "black people jokes" (I believe the term is the n-word but I can't write that here). Not because I want to be mean, but because they're funny. Then my dad says: You can't do that!

Why not? Are the black people so weak they can't take a joke? Seriously now, who's treating people differently because of the color of their skin?

EDIT, again: So I'd like to add something to that last thing I wrote. If an individual has a problem with jokes like that, then he/she should tell me, and I can shut up. But it's not something I should have to assume.
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Old 12-20-2007, 09:22 PM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

To be fair, the chances of you running into a black person in Sweden is slimmer than running into one in London, and running into one in New York. I don't make any racial jokes, because being an individual of mixed races (though many would consider them "white", there's a pretty big difference between Anatolian Greek and Quebecois Jew in my eyes), my city, social circle and almost everyone I'll interact with on a daily basis are of vastly different "races", all of them having a history of both oppressing and being oppressed.
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Old 12-20-2007, 09:38 PM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

There is more blacks hating whites than there are whites hating blacks in this country. Comes around full circle huh?
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:17 AM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

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Hero, most of what you say is correct, but there are a few flaws, which I will outline here:

Firstly, you say Indians are nice but muslims are hostile. Firstly, you seem to be making the mistake that was made in the muslims thread, and wrongly identifying Islam as a race, rather than a religion. Muslims may be white-British too you know.

Secondly, most muslims do not have a problem with Christmas, it is our pathetic government that causes the problem, as they seem to listen only to those few who do take issue with it. We need a better government, but we won't get one. I predict a revolution sometime soon.

Now on the agreement thing. Yes. Some black boxer, I don't remember his name, I don't follow boxing, said he would win a fight because he vowed never to lose to some "white trash." Yet if his opponent had said he would never lose to a black [insert-insult] then he would probably have been disqualified for racism.

I agree, most people bury their heads in the sand.
Oh, yes, the Muslims are a religion. Sorry about that mistake. And that boxer thing is absolutely typical. The Blacks have many non-racist people, who I have got on with and can make friends with. But there is, sorry to say, probably a majority of Blacks in the UK are racist. I mean, not all of them are DIRECTLY racist, but they act differently around White people.
Also, if five Blacks stabbed an old White lady, nothing would be shown on the news or in newspapers. If five Whites stabbed an old Black lady, those Whites would be locked up in seconds and their faces would be all over the news.

Oh, and yes, London is very multicultural. This is a problem BECAUSE of those that do cause trouble. The nice people I can get on with. Those who don't want to murder everyone who is not their religion. The people who consider you a friend, regardless of race or nationality.
But the vast majority of the British population are actually White British (about 90%). White British still cause problems, but not near as many as others seem to be causing.
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:40 AM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

I thought there was a thread alive like this one. Oh well.

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I have never taken notice but it is true that now Blacks are starting to take what Whites were 20 or so years ago. Pretty soon there will be more foreigners than Americans in the US...
Well African Americans are part of the American people in the US. They are a minority, but they been here as long as many of the other ethnic groups of America.

I don't think ceartin groups are being slighted for others. In America, white are the majority of upper finacial class. Still you have white people who are worse off and take advantage of some of the measures the government puts out to help the worse off.

Idk about the flag thing, but maybe the British gov wants the UK to be more welcoming to other groups. And you said advised, they didn't stop people.
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:49 AM
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Idk about the flag thing, but maybe the British gov wants the UK to be more welcoming to other groups. And you said advised, they didn't stop people.
It sets a better example to be patriotic than to be forced to ignore the country that is your home.
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Old 12-21-2007, 01:53 AM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

There's a thin line between patriotism and blind nationalism.
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Old 12-21-2007, 02:50 AM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

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(By the way, if you read the above, you will realise that NONE of it is racist, and is not intended to be)
yeah except for this:

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Muslims are very hostile.
Lumping anyone with the religion of Islam as being hostle. Next time say some muslems are hostile.

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They want to stop Christmas, our celebration of Jesus Christ.
How ungrateful is that?
Why should muslems be gratful to christians or the christian God?

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Also, in the United Kingdom, jobs are given to foreigners over Whites, even if the White person is better qualified.
By saying this you are suggesting that
1. Foreigners are not white
2. Non-foreigners are white
therefore you are saying that if your not white, your a foreigner.
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Re: Victimisation of White people

There's a difference between a Muslim person not celebrating an event of another religion, and actively trying to stop it from occurring. I'm Christian, and don't fast for Ramadan, or have a Bar Mitzvah, or something similar to that. However, I don't tell Muslims or Jews that they are wrong, and should stop doing what they do.
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Old 12-21-2007, 03:03 AM
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Re: Victimisation of White people

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They want to stop Christmas, our celebration of Jesus Christ.
How ungrateful is that?
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Chris: Why should muslems be gratful to christians or the christian God?
I don't think he means that muslims should be grateful to Christians or the Christian God, but rather grateful to the country they come to because as much as they're allowed to practise their own traditions and customs here, build their mosques and enjoy relative religious freedom, some still moan about our traditions and customs when in some parts of Islamic countries (Saudi for instance), Christianity isn't even allowed.
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