Actual purpose of living?

Is there actually a point in living? Basically, no.

But I'd surmise scientists devised of a way to actually make life meaningful.

Wouldn't you agree we're living without an actual purpose? I'd say so. Meaninglessly providing our people with amounts of food, working 40+ hours/week, etc. I'd rather think of it as unnecessary. After all, the earth will be devoured after a few billions of years anyway. Even though it's a fairly long process, it's essentially all unnecessary.

I've been thinking about this lately and if I'm incorrect intrinsically, prove me wrong.

Originally Posted by Captain Cutflaik

Is there actually a point in living? Basically, no.

But I'd surmise scientists devised of a way to actually make life meaningful.

Wouldn't you agree we're living without an actual purpose? I'd say so. Meaninglessly providing our people with amounts of food, working 40+ hours/week, etc. I'd rather think of it as unnecessary. After all, the earth will be devoured after a few billions of years anyway. Even though it's a fairly long process, it's essentially all unnecessary.

I've been thinking about this lately and if I'm incorrect intrinsically, prove me wrong.

we've lived for THOUSANDS of years, our purpose

To tell other about God and glorify him, and be saved so when you die you go to heaven.

so unless your doing so, your not really doing your job.

Originally Posted by Karuvin

we've lived for THOUSANDS of years, our purpose

To tell other about God and glorify him, and be saved so when you die you go to heaven.

so unless your doing so, your not really doing your job.

hmmm...no offence, but forcing religeon down peoples throats does not sound like a valid purpose for living

Our purpose is to just...live...In whatever way we choose

So... just because life ends, it's meaningless? Then making friends with someone is also pointless, because the friendship will most likely fade. Riding a roller coaster is also pointless, because the fun ends. No, I don't see the logic in that.

But I'm also having trouble seeing how there can be a meaning. I'm quite torn between the two sides. I'd like to believe there's a meaning, but... I just don't know.


There could very well be a meaning that we, as humans, are incapable of understanding. Just because we see the universe, doesn't mean we see it for what it truly is. Let me explain:

We're in a factory, looking at a complex piece of machinery that helps the factory produce stuff. We understand it.
On the floor, there's an ant. The ant, while being an intelligent animal, is incapable of seeing the mahince the way we are. The ant sees it as a place it might be able to live in. The ant is totally blind to our world, it can't even begin to see the complexity of it.

We humans are also animals with limited understanding. It might just be that we're as blind to the universe as a whole as the ant is to our world. So just because science says this and that, does by no means make it right to anyone but us.

No, and if all this stuff was indeed pointless, why has this thread been made? After all, it is pointless doing so, it is pointless discussing this, because one day the thread and all those who posted in it will be gone.

To me, memory is key. A roller coaster is fun even after it ends because you can remember it. So, in my mind, I hope there is an afterlife. If there isn't, I will consider life pointless, but if there is, life was not pointless at all, and so I feel it is better to have as good a life as I can while I am still alive, in case there is an afterlife, but not one that I like - which if Karuvin is correct, and you are saved for glorifying God, it certainly won't be, since I am most definitely headed to Hell.

Originally Posted by Karuvin

To tell other about God and glorify him, and be saved so when you die you go to heaven.

so unless your doing so, your not really doing your job.

How does going to heaven make everything meaningful?

I quite agree with lavmeister, in that I too think that life's purpose is what we make of it. I certainly disagree with Karuvin, and if the only point in life is to mindlessly glorify God and 'spread teh word' as he suggests, and make other people follow religion, then I think I'll hand that back to 'God' because there's so much more out there to think about and do. Sure, life has ups and downs, and crap happens, but pulling through the best we can and enjoying the good times is something I'm happy to do.

^ Yeah. As there's no official meaning of life, you'll have to find it out yourself. And most people think that as long as they're happy and nice to others (respecting life and blah blah), they've done the world a better place, and therefore made a difference, served a purpose.

You raise kids (don't have to have 'em, just contribute to their development), contribute meaningfully to the economy, and take care of your community.

That is all humanity demands of you.

^ Yep. From a biological standpoint though, the point of living is reproducing and ensure the survival and wealth of the offspring.

Wow, wasn't that a formal scientific sentence

Originally Posted by Karuvin

we've lived for THOUSANDS of years, our purpose

To tell other about God and glorify him, and be saved so when you die you go to heaven.

so unless your doing so, your not really doing your job.

The purpose of living is to tell people about how living is meaningless because you live forever later?

That strikes me as...off.

Biologically, all living organisms just want to reproduce.

Religion aside, I thought that it was already universally accepted that there was no point to living.

I don't see how that changes anything though. I'm still alive, aren't I? Why not make the most of it?

Originally Posted by Virtigo

You raise kids (don't have to have 'em, just contribute to their development), contribute meaningfully to the economy, and take care of your community.

That is all humanity demands of you.

Unfortunately, I fail to see the point in either all three of those. But yes, humanity is indeed retarded.

No, and if all this stuff was indeed pointless, why has this thread been made? After all, it is pointless doing so, it is pointless discussing this, because one day the thread and all those who posted in it will be gone.

To me, memory is key. A roller coaster is fun even after it ends because you can remember it. So, in my mind, I hope there is an afterlife. If there isn't, I will consider life pointless, but if there is, life was not pointless at all, and so I feel it is better to have as good a life as I can while I am still alive, in case there is an afterlife, but not one that I like - which if Karuvin is correct, and you are saved for glorifying God, it certainly won't be, since I am most definitely headed to Hell.

I would highly doubt whether there's actuall an after life at all, since most abstract evidence contradicts that. Your imagination is something create within your brains, correct? Now, if the body dies or either fades away eventually, so will the brain.

Thus, all memories will be lost. Unless you're some sort of optimistic person who actually believes in every form of the term "supernatural."

A point is an intent, and item X can only have an intent in the perspective of consciousness. Remove consciousness from the universe, and there is no point to anything. Your point is what you intend it to be. There is no outside, cosmic "point" to your existence; you are worthless and the concept of "worth" does not even hold outside of your own consciousness.

Basically, when you ask for a point to your existence you are asking about a property that could not exist if you did not exist yourself. Therefore, you make your own point, and whatever worth you assign to it is whatever worth it has.

Originally Posted by Captain Cutflaik

Is there actually a point in living? Basically, no.

But I'd surmise scientists devised of a way to actually make life meaningful.

Wouldn't you agree we're living without an actual purpose? I'd say so. Meaninglessly providing our people with amounts of food, working 40+ hours/week, etc. I'd rather think of it as unnecessary. After all, the earth will be devoured after a few billions of years anyway. Even though it's a fairly long process, it's essentially all unnecessary.

I've been thinking about this lately and if I'm incorrect intrinsically, prove me wrong.

I agree there is no point in life. There absolutely is no point in going on living.

Originally Posted by Karuvin

To tell other about God and glorify him, and be saved so when you die you go to heaven.

so unless your doing so, your not really doing your job.

I'm not glorifying and worshiping something I cannot see and or probably doesn't exist. What's the point in going to heaven? Is there a heaven? What's the point in going to hell? Is there a hell? Once your dead, your body loses its sense of feeling, so it doesn't matter. There is no point in having a God, and there in no point in caring about one.

There is no point in life, but "You can find something interesting to do while you are alive. Like how you found that flower. Like how I found you."
There is no point because it will benefit nothing in the end. You learn and gain memories only to lose them. You only find something interesting to do to entertain yourself while you slowly die.