Your Views On Smoking

I have a huge problem about smoking and i wish to discuss it here.

1. My dad smokes cigarette's and it's really anoying, i don't want to inhale it and everytime i go past him and try to talk to him hes smoking. Also, anytime i try and save his god damn life by taking them from him, he cracks it at me.

2. The thing i hate most about Cigarette's is how the government alows Cigarette companys to sell them. I'm not sure if this happens in other contrys but in Australia, the government put warning signs on the packs and yet there still leagel! They even have photos now, they have adds and all sorts of things like the quit line to stop you smoking and yet the easyest way is it make then illeagel. I still don't know how my dad can smoke after seeing the add were the Cigarette buts out on the buble rap shapped like lungs and shows you what happens to your lungs.

3. I am very afriad that one day i will have inhaled too much of my dads smoke and reak my lungs, this also brings my to polution but we won't go into that...

Anyway, What are you're veiws on smoking? If you do smoke, i feel quite sorry for you.

2nd hand smoking is bad, ummm Smoking is banned at all public spots, or will be very soon, if they were to ban it imagine the upheavel, or it would become like pot except more extreme!

Tell him to go outside to smoke!

I don't smoke!

Winfield blues are great (hahaha sorry product endorsement) I will take cash or cheque!

Is passive smoking actually very harmful? Apparently it's worse than actually somking, because you don't actually exhale it. My popa smokes so whenever I walk by him when he's doing that I hold my breath. Mostly he'll do it outside though, because he's good mannered. (And I think he quit and only has one every month or so or something)

Originally Posted by Alex

1. My dad smokes cigarette's and it's really anoying, i don't want to inhale it and everytime i go past him and try to talk to him hes smoking. Also, anytime i try and save his god damn life by taking them from him, he cracks it at me.

Your dad, who more than likely started smoking years and years ago, became addicted to a product which at the the time was freely advertised, was far more potent in terms of addictive and health threatening ingredients and which had no obvious health warnings as we have nowadays. Perhaps the odd bit of smallprint on a packet or after and advert which said "Smoking Kills".
And as for taking them from him, trying to "save his god damn life", no one gave you permission to forcefully take anything from anyone. As Ninboy finely said, ask him to nip outside for a smoke, or even jump in the car and take a drive.

Originally Posted by Alex

2. The thing i hate most about Cigarette's is how the government alows Cigarette companys to sell them. I'm not sure if this happens in other contrys but in Australia, the government put warning signs on the packs and yet there still leagel! They even have photos now, they have adds and all sorts of things like the quit line to stop you smoking and yet the easyest way is it make then illeagel. I still don't know how my dad can smoke after seeing the add were the Cigarette buts out on the buble rap shapped like lungs and shows you what happens to your lungs.

The government makes a lot of money from taxing tobacco products. And with all the consumers addicted and buying them week after week, making them illegal would put a large dent in the economy. My prediction is smoking tobacco will never be illegalized.

Originally Posted by Alex

3. I am very afriad that one day i will have inhaled too much of my dads smoke and reak my lungs, this also brings my to polution but we won't go into that...

Just speak to him about the points made above, but don't try and force him to quit. As for pollution, all the smokers in the world would only be a small percentage of emissions compared to vehicles and industrial services.

I used to smoke. I still do every now and then. But I'm not addicted. A great new law over here in Scotland (which has been apparent in a lot of countries for a while now) is the smoking ban. No smoking in public places suchs as bars, restaurants, clubs, bus shelter etc. In my opinion this law is the way forward.

~ Adhamh.

Originally Posted by Alex

I have a huge problem about smoking and i wish to discuss it here.

1. My dad smokes cigarette's and it's really anoying, i don't want to inhale it and everytime i go past him and try to talk to him hes smoking. Also, anytime i try and save his god damn life by taking them from him, he cracks it at me.

2. The thing i hate most about Cigarette's is how the government alows Cigarette companys to sell them. I'm not sure if this happens in other contrys but in Australia, the government put warning signs on the packs and yet there still leagel! They even have photos now, they have adds and all sorts of things like the quit line to stop you smoking and yet the easyest way is it make then illeagel. I still don't know how my dad can smoke after seeing the add were the Cigarette buts out on the buble rap shapped like lungs and shows you what happens to your lungs.

3. I am very afriad that one day i will have inhaled too much of my dads smoke and reak my lungs, this also brings my to polution but we won't go into that...

Anyway, What are you're veiws on smoking? If you do smoke, i feel quite sorry for you.

Not a very nice word to use and I don't think God would approve.

Anyway, the United States has anti-smoking campaigns as well. I see why you want smoking to become illegal but consider this: If it is made illegal, cigarretts could (and would more than likely) be sold on the black market. If sold black market, they could be made to be even more leathal than what they are now. Don't believe me? I know some drug dealers that mix all sorts of crazy stuff in with their crack, marajuana, heroin just so they can achieve the best high (and extend their supply) that will bring their customers back. It is more healthy to have cigaretts legal. Yes they slowly kill and I detest them more than I could describe. I lost both of my grandmothers to smoking related illnesses and more than likely I will loose my mother to one as well. It is much safer this way. History proves this. Look up the Prohibition of Alcohol during the 20s for an example.

I don't really care about other people smoking, its not my place to ask them to quit and it dosn't really bother me that much. If someone is smoking a straight then I will walk off or move upwind as I really hate the smell. Passive smoking is not very harmful to you, you do much more damage to your lungs by walking too nearby a bus.

Originally Posted by Ninboy

God is communism, I thought he believed in free speech!

And if god made the tobacco plant?

It is bad for us to smoke it, but maybe they can find a way to help cure us in the future!

God gave us free will, does that mean He approves of everything we do? No because if He did, there would be no sin.

Tobacco is misused. It is actually quite good to put on a bee sting. I forget the reasons why. I'll come back with the reasons later tonight.

The way I see it is smoke+lungs=bad. If your in a fire the thing that is most likly to kill you first is the smoke so I don't smoke.

On the other hand I have alot of friends who smoke but my one rule about it is Don't Smoke Near me we don't need this stuff in our lungs if we have decided not to smoke it.

odd i thought this post would be longer. Oh Well.

Originally Posted by Jayolorin

Is passive smoking actually very harmful? Apparently it's worse than actually somking, because you don't actually exhale it. My popa smokes so whenever I walk by him when he's doing that I hold my breath. Mostly he'll do it outside though, because he's good mannered. (And I think he quit and only has one every month or so or something)

Actually, you do exhale some of it, but not all of it. The reason why it's soo dangerous, is that you see on normal cigarettes there's a little coloured part that you put into the mouth when you smoke? That small part acts as a filter, to filter out some of the harmful gases. So, when you walk by someone who is smoking, the smoke from the cigarette itself is more dangerous to you than it is to the person smoking.

This is a very very good thread, but keep in mind, let us not judge those who smoke. Don't get all hussy fussy about it, because people who activly complain about smokers are quite annoying. As a smoker myself, it's almost offensive what people say.


Um. Hmm, I started smoking in college, strangely after I started smoking weed. Well, weed was expensive and I gave that up, but buying a pack of tops tobacco with some rolling pappers is EXTREMELY innexpensive. Smoking for me was never about looking cool, or following advertisements, it was all about the buzz. Yes ciggarettes give you a buzz, thats the addictive part just like any other drug. Ciggarettes are a pretty good relaxant, and the buzz, while different, it's something worth getting use to.

If I could simply get that cigg buzz every once in a while withought smoking, hell I would, but that fact of the matter is that ciggarettes can be cheap, and thats how one gets that relaxing buzz. Drinking takes longer, and after a near death experience I only stick with beer, and well it's takes a couple of beers to get me going, and I can't afford a couple of beers, I can only afford a pack of tobacco and rolling papers.

As far as quitting to smoke, I know I can do it, I think anyone knows they can do it, but they just need to proper environment. When I go back home over the summer I'll have to quit, simply because I'll be around my family and they would go ape sh-t if they found out I casually smoked. My grandfather died from smoking, and my grandmother had to get heart surgeory at 30 because of smoking... yeah and you ask why I smoke with such and aweful family history. Somtimes I ask that myself. What the hell am I doing with an inhaler in my pocket and a ciggarette behind my ear.

Am I stupid for smoking, hell yes, but do I care? No, because it's all about the buzz. It's a great and horrible way to relax, it's a shame what ciggarette companies put in their product, all the extra deadly ingredients. Thats why I stick to rolling my own... is it much better? No, smoke is still in my lungs, but at least I got that buzz a tad faster without that filter.

Smoking is a tradition, and well, in contemporary social culture, people know full well what they are getting into when they smoke, and that is why I agree with smoking laws, but as long as they don't affect other people's property rights, then I won't protest. I personally think that there should be more programs to actually help people quit rather than pushing them to smoke more in their own respective legal environments though.

Meh, whatever.

Nicotine is very destructive to everyone in the same room. The actual process of smoking is nothing to be concerned of - you could smoke plenty of things that wouldn't hurt anyone. Tobacco, however, is not one of these substances.

Regardless, a man has the right to do whatever the hell he wants with his own body.

I would rather we legalize marijuana, tax the hell out of it, and replace cigarretes with the stickiest of the icky.

Perhaps we should just allow all sorts of drugs -- cocaine, heroin, LSD, you-name-it. After all, it's their own body. And since it's all about everyone's own body, let's not put an age restriction on it. Heck, let the little babies smoke some weed if their parents can pull that off. Who cares? At least 6 or 10 year olds wouldn't have to be held back from such a pleasant experience.

Originally Posted by Strong Hammer

If it is made illegal, cigarretts could (and would more than likely) be sold on the black market. If sold black market, they could be made to be even more leathal than what they are now. Don't believe me? I know some drug dealers that mix all sorts of crazy stuff in with their crack, marajuana, heroin just so they can achieve the best high (and extend their supply) that will bring their customers back.

I know this is off topic but I recently saw a documentary produced by the French network of the CBC that proved that was a myth in mosts occasions. It does happen sometimes though.

As for smoking itself laws in Canada are being put in place to make it more and more difficult to be a smoker. In my province (New Brunswick) and in Quebec as of now I think you cannot smoke in a public place (including roads, restaurants, bars, ect) the only places you are allowed to smoke is your car and your own house. There are very strict fines for offenders too, so we are going in the right direction... Or so I think.

Originally Posted by SchattenReïter

I know this is off topic but I recently saw a documentary produced by the French network of the CBC that proved that was a myth in mosts occasions. It does happen sometimes though.

As for smoking itself laws in Canada are being put in place to make it more and more difficult to be a smoker. In my province (New Brunswick) and in Quebec as of now I think you cannot smoke in a public place (including roads, restaurants, bars, ect) the only places you are allowed to smoke is your car and your own house. There are very strict fines for offenders too, so we are going in the right direction... Or so I think.

Here in the State of Georgia, we have those same laws. I'm just saying that if cigaretts are made illegal, they could turn out to be more leathal. Look at alcohol when it was made unconstitutional to sell it. People made their own and it was some leathal stuff. People have been known to die because moonshine was so strong.

Originally Posted by Strong Hammer

Here in the State of Georgia, we have those same laws. I'm just saying that if cigaretts are made illegal, they could turn out to be more leathal. Look at alcohol when it was made unconstitutional to sell it. People made their own and it was some leathal stuff. People have been known to die because moonshine was so strong.

I also agree with that. But the difference with alcohol is that drinking bad alcohol or whatnot only harms yourself. Smoking cigarettes is almost as deadly for your surroundings as it is to you (and you cant really make stronger tobacco, I mean the stuff grows it doesnt brew). Obviously completely banning the use of tobacco suddenly is wrong because it would never work. But slowly, more and more, you make it difficult for smokers and tobacco companies to continue and therefore running the habit out.

Originally Posted by Virtigo

Nicotine is very destructive to everyone in the same room. The actual process of smoking is nothing to be concerned of - you could smoke plenty of things that wouldn't hurt anyone. Tobacco, however, is not one of these substances.

Regardless, a man has the right to do whatever the hell he wants with his own body.

I would rather we legalize marijuana, tax the hell out of it, and replace cigarretes with the stickiest of the icky.

Just thought I would let you know that its a myth that marijuana is less harmful than tobacco. And the problem I have with smoking is not with the smoker, its with the harm he causes to others.

Originally Posted by D3PyroGS

Perhaps we should just allow all sorts of drugs -- cocaine, heroin, LSD, you-name-it. After all, it's their own body. And since it's all about everyone's own body, let's not put an age restriction on it. Heck, let the little babies smoke some weed if their parents can pull that off. Who cares? At least 6 or 10 year olds wouldn't have to be held back from such a pleasant experience.

Perhaps we should be hysterical and reactionary and try to make a point by wildly exceeding the premise of the argument to include a grab-bag of illicit substances in the hopes that the fear surrounding those will be transferred. WOW! Excuse me while I shoot some crack to make me forget your amateur attempt at hyperbole.