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Old 04-11-2006, 05:09 PM
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After death

So, what does everyone think is after life??? when you die, do you think there is a heaven?? or do you just get reincarnated???

I personally, somehow dont believe in one, since...where could it be?? Maybe we just wander the earth as spirits or we go to some distant planet somehow....because...heaven cant really exist, because...where would it be? And how could we get there....I have noooo clue.

So whatcha guys think?
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Old 04-11-2006, 05:12 PM
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Re: After death

I think depending on your beliefs depends on what happens to you. For Christians, I believe they leave this world behind to enter into their gods heavens, while those who believe in no god are left wandering the earth.

I dunno, this is such a hard topic.
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Old 04-11-2006, 05:31 PM
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Re: After death

Well I hope to get a movie in which I can see the funniest and most memorable parts of my life. Who knows what will happen, of course a talk with a god is always fun and then maybe just you and your soul mate if you found it can travel around and life an eternal life together? Though eternal is maybe a bit long, a few thousand years?
Ofcourse only if I can still enjoy 'mortal' things like food, games and love making.
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Old 04-11-2006, 05:56 PM
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Re: After death

Well I believe that when we die we'll just lose all conscienceness and spend all of eternity in a coffin or if you're creamated an urn. As you can see I don't believe in an after life. But like 2 Dope said this all depends on your faith.
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Old 04-11-2006, 06:19 PM
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Re: After death

If you're a Christian, you believe that those who trusted Christ for their salvation go to heaven, while others who didn't go to hell. If you're an atheist, you (probably) believe that you're just dead, without a soul, spirit, or conscience, and it's all basically "over." If you believe in a different religion, it's somewhere in the middle. For example, Mormons would say that Christians go to the Telestial heaven, but not Terrestrial or Celestial (I believe). Other religions believe different things.

I'm a Christian, and I believe in the afterlife (of believers and nonbelievers). Eternal life for those in Christ, and eternal death for those who didn't.
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Old 04-11-2006, 06:47 PM
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Re: After death

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If you're a Christian, you believe that those who trusted Christ for their salvation go to heaven, while others who didn't go to hell. If you're an atheist, you (probably) believe that you're just dead, without a soul, spirit, or conscience, and it's all basically "over." If you believe in a different religion, it's somewhere in the middle. For example, Mormons would say that Christians go to the Telestial heaven, but not Terrestrial or Celestial (I believe). Other religions believe different things.

I'm a Christian, and I believe in the afterlife (of believers and nonbelievers). Eternal life for those in Christ, and eternal death for those who didn't.
You really, really, need to think before you speak. You have jaded beliefs on this whole Christian thing. There's taking the bible literally, and literally understanding the bible. You sadly do the first.

You read the bible, and read the verses, but do not take things as they are meant. I really can't go on desciribing that, but I can learn you on this while salvation thing.

The Christian God only judges on what a person knows. To know Christ, to learn about Christ, to follow Christ, to love Christ, and to experience Christ is different than knowing of this Christ, hearing a few stories, but never learning his message or what he can be. God would not tell someone he had the chance to love Jesus, but failed to. God would not tell someone he should have known, even though Judiasm/Hinduism/any other was all they were taught and they know. God does not damn the ignorant.

Myself, your God might damn. I believe in Jesus is as much of a prophet as Muhammad, and Buddha, among many others. Right now I do not know.

To tell someone they will go to Hell D3 is Sacreligious, and blashphemic. If you tell someone they will go to hell for their beliefs, they'd see you there. Why is this bolded? You really should think about that.

Myself, well I am not sure. Though my fear of Hell technically makes me believe in Jesus as the messiah. I guess I will let God choose for me.
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Old 04-11-2006, 07:11 PM
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Re: After death

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To tell someone they will go to Hell D3 is Sacreligious, and blashphemic. If you tell someone they will go to hell for their beliefs, they'd see you there. Why is this bolded? You really should think about that.

Myself, well I am not sure. Though my fear of Hell technically makes me believe in Jesus as the messiah. I guess I will let God choose for me.
I belive D3 ment that christians belive that non christians will go to hell. In which case he isint saying that himself.

And God gave us free will so we could chose for ourselfs so God won't be chosing your religion anytime soon.

I belive in heaven and all that wondeful stuff but unlike most christians I belive God will give everyone one last chance to go into heaven when they die.

Edit:Calncel the first thing I said it was infact me who isread what D3 said not you.
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Old 04-11-2006, 07:24 PM
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Re: After death

Why cant heaven exisist? where would it go you ask?

well in theory the Universe is huge, i mean, the closest star to us other then the sun is like a couple of light years away or something, that meaning how fast light can travel in a year, because we cant get that fast it would take a hell lot longer. The scary thing is, we see the stars now, but who knows if they are still there. So why cant it exisist? no room? because to be honest there is alot of room to fit heaven.

just thought i say that....
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Old 04-11-2006, 07:29 PM
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Re: After death

If there is some sort of afterlife, a heaven or a hell, I believe that it's not necessarily a place but like another state of mind, another level of conciousness or some other reality. I actually believe that heaven would be something that isn't really physical at all, like a constant dream.

But if there isn't a heaven or hell, which I often believe, then I say our bodies just shut down, there's nothing left, no room for reincarnation or wandering the earth eternally.

Unless we're talking aout the paranormal. Now that's a different story .
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Old 04-11-2006, 07:30 PM
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Re: After death

Alright well....Crim....If I was a Mod, you'de have your wish...I wasnt thinking.

Tre, ya, but, how would your body get to heaven?? Do you float to the light like in the movies? And in the movies...they also claim that we live below heaven, so therefore it would have to be above us...*looks up* and I dont see it. But I guess it comes down your beliefs like everyone else said. And with hell....why would God let his creations go to hell??...to be eternally tortured?? Thats not very nice

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Old 04-11-2006, 07:41 PM
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Re: After death

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Alright well....Crim....If I was a Mod, you'de have your wish...I wasnt thinking.

Tre, ya, but, how would your body get to heaven?? Do you float to the light like in the movies? And in the movies...they also claim that we live below heaven, so therefore it would have to be above us...*looks up* and I dont see it.

*locks* Oh ya I'm not a mod.....yet
Your BODY stays in the ground forever. It is a spirit that would go to heaven. And movies are ****, they don't "claim" anything. We proved that heaven isn't above earth when we went into space. In a sense it is more or less another "dimension" if you will.
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Old 04-11-2006, 07:46 PM
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Re: After death

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Alright well....Crim....If I was a Mod, you'de have your wish...I wasnt thinking.

Tre, ya, but, how would your body get to heaven?? Do you float to the light like in the movies? And in the movies...they also claim that we live below heaven, so therefore it would have to be above us...*looks up* and I dont see it. But I guess it comes down your beliefs like everyone else said. And with hell....why would God let his creations go to hell??...to be eternally tortured?? Thats not very nice

*locks* Oh ya I'm not a mod.....yet
A simple move or some thing would do, because it talks about that relgion stuffs.

Assuming you christian, I can't remeber this the good but at judgement day i think people get their bodies back (I will look this up later). But stick with what 2 Dope said.

God gave his creations free will, to be good or bad. If you choose the wrong path you go to hell.
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Old 04-11-2006, 09:25 PM
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Re: After death

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You really, really, need to think before you speak. You have jaded beliefs on this whole Christian thing. There's taking the bible literally, and literally understanding the bible. You sadly do the first.
Mmmmm... "taking" seems like "understanding," but go on...

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You read the bible, and read the verses, but do not take things as they are meant. I really can't go on desciribing that, but I can learn you on this while salvation thing.
I do take things as they are meant to be... that's what taking the Bible literally is, but since you're gonna learn me...

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The Christian God only judges on what a person knows. To know Christ, to learn about Christ, to follow Christ, to love Christ, and to experience Christ is different than knowing of this Christ, hearing a few stories, but never learning his message or what he can be. God would not tell someone he had the chance to love Jesus, but failed to. God would not tell someone he should have known, even though Judiasm/Hinduism/any other was all they were taught and they know. God does not damn the ignorant.
God does judge on what people know. Everyone knows there is a God. Everyone. If someone wants to know more about this God they feel in their heart, God will reveal more of himself to them, via missionaries, pastors, etc. If someone believes in Judaism, Hinduism, or another religion, he won't go to Heaven simply because he really believed it. He still believed in the wrong thing. That's like me putting all my faith in Satan. Do you think God would still let me in? I really, really believed in Satan!

God doesn't damn anyone. Technically, we all damn ourselves if we reject the love of God.

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To tell someone they will go to Hell D3 is Sacreligious, and blashphemic. If you tell someone they will go to hell for their beliefs, they'd see you there. Why is this bolded? You really should think about that.
Why is it sacreligious? Why is it blasphemic? Do you know what those words mean? Need I explain myself? Is it better for me to lie to you and say you'll go to Heaven even if you reject God?

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Myself, well I am not sure. Though my fear of Hell technically makes me believe in Jesus as the messiah. I guess I will let God choose for me.
So you believe he's the messiah because you're afraid to go to Hell? Then you don't really believe - you just say you do in hopes that God will take you. God doesn't choose for you. You choose, whether it's to accept or reject.


I was simply giving my opinions on the afterlife, as was everyone else here. I am unsure why you singled me out and attacked me for what I believe. I am not personally attacking anyone when I say those that reject Jesus will go to Hell; it's simply my belief. Let's save the debate for when it comes, ok?
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Old 04-11-2006, 09:57 PM
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Re: After death

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Why is it sacreligious? Why is it blasphemic? Do you know what those words mean? Need I explain myself? Is it better for me to lie to you and say you'll go to Heaven even if you reject God?
I personally don't find anything wrong with telling someone that if they reject Him they will not be with Him in the afterlife, but going up to someone after hearing them curse and saying "You're going to Hell!"...well, I would take that offensively. In my opinion, people shouldn't judge the sins of others; that's God's job.

So...as for the whole "God will send you to Hell, you sinner!" Well...I find that partially ridiculous. Partially, because yes, Christians believe that those who sin and ask for forgiveness and/or give their lives to Christ (don't quote me on this, I'm barely religious) will go to Hell when they die. However, God doesn't send anyone to Hell (or heaven). When we're born we have a clean slate, a fresh chance and the moment you commit a sin that slate is tainted, but by praying to God, accepting Him into your live and asking for forgiveness that slate can be wiped clean.

I don't like to say that God sends people to Hell, because then I get this mental image of God standing over some one, disapproving with grand authority and pushing a button to shoot you down to the depths of the underworld. God doesn't send anyone anywhere. We make the choice of where we go when we die through our actions while we're living.

And yes, I do realize that my first post here made the fact that I'm agnostic pretty much clear, but I do believe that somewhere out there there is a God or God-like being, and if that is the case then I see the paragraphs above this one as our rules of the afterlife.
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Old 04-11-2006, 10:40 PM
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Re: After death

Unlike in south park there is probably no correct anwser as to what heaven is or who gains addmittance. As for myself the part of me that I think is eternal might hang around the universe to see how things turn out. Then I'll see where I can go from there. As for Athiest not having an afterlife, well in a metaphysical sense this is true, but their genes and ideas may live on for a very long time after they have shuffled of the mortal coil. So parts of them will have an eternal aspect if some figues out how to reverse entropy in the distant future.
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Old 04-11-2006, 11:25 PM
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Re: After death

I think it depends on who you are to what happens to you when you die. If you are chosen by God to be saved you will go to heaven, which is to be with God. There is not very much information as to what heaven is like other than the little discriptopns the Bible gives "paradise" as Jesus called it.

If you are not one who is saved then you will go to hell. I beleive that hell is just the absense of God. When God is absent then people cease to exist, and so people who go to hell will just die and cease to exist.

I think that people who don't beleive in God while alive will still not beleive in God at death.
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