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Old 04-06-2006, 05:47 AM
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God a sinner?

Hello again peepz! Now, i dont read the bible, but, would i be right in saying that rape, cannibalism, and vampirism are all sins? Then in that case, god is a rapist and his son promotes cannibalism and vampirism. And i will prove it here.

1. as we all know, God visited mary one night,(no doubt joseph was off somewhere at the time) and he said something along the lines of "you shall carry my child!" or something. I never heard mary saying, "ok god, you can sleep with me and i'll have your child." She never said anything. So there you go. Either she wasn't a virgin, or god raped her.

2. Jesus promoted cannibalism and vampirism in the last meal. "Eat of my flesh and drink of my blood." Ok, he said the bread and wine represented these. but still, that is promoting it!

Now, what have you all got to say to this? And dont go blaming me for pointing out some very obvious fact's.

Oh! And one more thing. The journey that the three sheppards made? It would have taken a year. Not a couple of hours. And why would they have sheep out in fields in the middle of winter?! Put THAT on a T-shirt and sell it!
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Old 04-06-2006, 06:03 AM
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Re: God a sinner?

Perhaps he is more of a joker, saying he did these things, so we base 2000 years of theology on some stuff that doesn't make sense when examined logically has you have done. No one has told me god's sense of humour can't be black.
I would like to point out to you for the catholics at least their believesd makes the canablism and vampirism kind of literal. This is because of an idea that when you partake in the communion the bread and wine turns into the body and blood of christ. I forget the name for this. I think it starts with a T?
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Old 04-06-2006, 06:08 AM
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Re: God a sinner?

You can't be serious. You just really can't be serious.

Now, as I sit back and laugh at your boundless stupidity for posting this, I can't help but not fathom where you've derived such an asinine piece of horrible distortion. Where did you pull this out of, your left eye-socket? Hell, I'm not even going to bless you with an elaborate explanation of how you're wrong on just about every single level.

Congratulations.

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Oh! And one more thing. The journey that the three sheppards made? It would have taken a year. Not a couple of hours. And why would they have sheep out in fields in the middle of winter?! Put THAT on a T-shirt and sell it!
A baby couldn't even survive in the cold; his birthday was really in Spring, but the holiday was moved to December to help convert pagans. That's the one thing I shall correct you on. Stick that in your juice box and suck it.
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Old 04-06-2006, 06:14 AM
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Re: God a sinner?

1. God didn't actually rape her,God ws talking to her and told her to carry his son. God could have just put his sperm in her without actually having sex.

2. You take it too litterally. The body of Christ is the bread,the blood was the wine. He didn't actually mean 'drink my blood and eat my body'.

3.With God,anything is possible. They could have got there fast. About the sheep in the winter,no one knows when his birth date actually was. It could be today,but we don't know.

I hope that cleared everything up.
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Old 04-06-2006, 07:30 AM
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Re: God a sinner?

Man. CO Andy is my best friend because not even I have ever thought about that. With all seriousness though, God is God whether we like it or now, the whole universe is his playground and us humans and animals are his action figures so He, the almighty can do whatever He wants. God does not sin, EVER, and if He does it is always for the greater good, even if he DID rape Mary. That's the way I'd like to think of Him.
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Old 04-06-2006, 08:05 AM
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Re: God a sinner?

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1. as we all know, God visited mary one night,(no doubt joseph was off somewhere at the time) and he said something along the lines of "you shall carry my child!" or something. I never heard mary saying, "ok god, you can sleep with me and i'll have your child." She never said anything. So there you go. Either she wasn't a virgin, or god raped her.
First and foremost, Mary was a virgin when she conceived. That shatters your "rape theory" right there. Jesus was conceived purely by the Spirit, not by physical means. Mary did not conceive Jesus through intercourse.

Secondly, God did not speak to Mary--the angel Gabriel did. He came and told her: "Do not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. You will be with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David, and he will reign over the house of Jacob forever; his kingdom will never end." (Luke 1:30-33)

Thirdly, Mary DID respond to this news, by saying, "I am the Lord's servant; may it be to me as you have said." (Luke 1:38) That's as good a consent and agreement as any.

And, just to put the icing on the cake, Joseph and Mary were not married yet.

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2. Jesus promoted cannibalism and vampirism in the last meal. "Eat of my flesh and drink of my blood." Ok, he said the bread and wine represented these. but still, that is promoting it!
No, He said "my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink." Therefore, the only way to attain salvation is to take Himself into us. His chosen medium--through the mouth. He didn't say: "Peace be with you. Take a chunk out of the arm of the guy sitting next to you, bless it, and eat it in my name." He said, "Take this, and eat. This is my body, which will be given up for you."

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Oh! And one more thing. The journey that the three sheppards made? It would have taken a year. Not a couple of hours. And why would they have sheep out in fields in the middle of winter?! Put THAT on a T-shirt and sell it!
Who said it took a couple hours, and who said it didn't take a year? Scripture provides only evidence that it was a long journey, stating outright that they left their "country."



Please don't post this sort of thing without researching the topic. A quick glance at Scripture disproved each of your points, without my spending much effort in the process. I find it quite rude that you would attack religious tenets without any kind of educated process behind your "logic."
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Old 04-06-2006, 08:10 AM
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Re: God a sinner?

First what we should ask is, what is sin?

Well I think sin is disobeying God and if sin is this that God can't sin becaues he can't disobey himself.
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Old 04-06-2006, 02:01 PM
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Oh! And one more thing. The journey that the three sheppards made? It would have taken a year. Not a couple of hours. And why would they have sheep out in fields in the middle of winter?! Put THAT on a T-shirt and sell it!
Um... aren't you confusing the wise men with the shephards? You're mixing stories here.

The Bible never states how many wise men there were, or how long the journey was.

Also, it's not impossible for Jesus' birth to have been in winter. Let's say it was. Shepherds still had to watch their sheep, even when it was cold. There would have been no reason to keep the sheep indoors all winter, even if it was bitterly cold. They do have what's called wool.

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A quick glance at Scripture disproved each of your points, without my spending much effort in the process.
Quoted for truth.
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Old 04-06-2006, 02:52 PM
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Re: God a sinner?

I have to agree with LionHarted and D3PyroGS.

God did not rape Mary. And Jesus did not promote cannibalism or vampirism.

Maybe you should talk a a baptist pastor about these things, and read the Bible. Unless of course you really don't care.

And in case you didn't know, Jesus is God.
God is the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. (I know nothing like this was spoken of, but still.)

I would have to meantion, that all of this is dissapproved by everyone that posted here. (Well except maybe fireball, I can't really understand where he went with that.)

Lastly, that is just a huge lie, you say yourself, that you have never read the Bible, so why did you even bother to make this thread. Maybe you would understand it more if you did read the Bible.
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Old 04-06-2006, 02:58 PM
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Re: God a sinner?

it doesnt even say in the bible that the shepherd visited him in a couple of hours!
you probably got that assumtion from watching to much "kiddies-plays!"
THE NATIVITY IS ALL WRONG!
the kings took 3 years to get there, and were not even sure if there were even 3 kings!
i know all this....because im catholic (and no i dont have loads of brothers and sisters! i have 1 brother)
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Old 04-06-2006, 03:33 PM
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Oh! And one more thing. The journey that the three sheppards made? It would have taken a year. Not a couple of hours. And why would they have sheep out in fields in the middle of winter?! Put THAT on a T-shirt and sell it!
I'll take care of this one, since logic and reasoning aren't your strong point; not to mention the other ones are explained.

These sheppards were grazing their sheep in the hills outside Bethlehem, they weren't "in the fields" and since we have no idea where exactly those hills were, or just how small Bethlehem was(considering it had only one inn, it might be very small), it could have taken them anywhere from minutes to days to get there. Besides that, they would easily have survived in this "winter" you speak of. This is not America, and it's not Europe, it's the Middle East. They don't have harsh winters, unless it's because they're hot.
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Old 04-06-2006, 04:38 PM
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Re: God a sinner?

Can someone just lock this thread? Please? It makes absolutely no sense.

And when did "vampirism" ever come into existence? You'd have to prove vampires exist first, buddy.
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Old 04-06-2006, 04:39 PM
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And when did "vampirism" ever come into existence? You'd have to prove vampires exist first, buddy.
For the record, "vampirism" has little to do with vampires. Vampirism is the consumption of [human] blood by human beings. It is considered taboo by most major religions. Vampires are a legend. Vampirism is a practice.
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Old 04-06-2006, 04:45 PM
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Can someone just lock this thread? Please? It makes absolutely no sense.
This is what PM's are for. Notify a moderator when you think a thread should be locked. Don't rent-a-mod.

Topic locked.

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