Cindy Sheehan

Cindy Sheehan, everyone's favorite militant-uh-military mother, is at it again: this time, in what I guess is meant to be protest against the Iraq war, she's tying herself to the White House fence. God, I hope they just leave her there...that aside, I'm gonna make this an open thread: What do you think about Sheehan? Is she doing the right thing, or is she just spitting on her son's grave? How about the War in Iraq? Is it legitamate? Is it right? Was Casey's death in vain? Should Bush be blamed for Casey's death? Should we stay in Iraq, or pull a Vietnam and just pull out now? Can all of this terrorism mess be blamed on Bill Clinton?

Many parents children have died in the Iraq war, most of the parents honored the sacrifices their children made, others (Sheehan) driven by politics, decide to use their sons death to bolster support for their political agenda. Many soldiers who have known Cindy Sheehan's son believe that he would be rolling over in his grave if he knew of her mothers exploits. The mostly anti-war media has used Cindy Sheehan as a symbol of the pain suffered by mothers of fallen heros. Cindy Sheehan and the media want to send the symbol that George Bush doesnt care about those who died in Iraq, even though he has offered to discuss this problem with many parents, some for the war, some against. Cindy Sheehan wants to play the role of a revolutionary against Bush, in many ways she has succeded. But the sheer amount of publicity this woman has gained is a reminder of the political leanings of the American media, as well as a thorn in the side of our troops in Iraq. Our troops are for the war and no matter your political leanings, you should show utter support for their choice to to fight as well as remain there. They dont want to be brought home, they have seen the faces of the Iraqi children, and of the men they freed from Saddam. I believe our troops are heros. They volunteered to fight for their nation and their choice should be honored.

I dont really like Cindy Sheehan.

this time, in what I guess is meant to be protest against the Iraq war, she's tying herself to the White House fence.

What does she hope to accomplish by this.Does she honestly think that because she ties herself to a fence she's going to end a war.I agree with Ganondorf Moose let her stay there who cares.Bush must be feeling the presure already .

Anyway I think that the war in Iraq is a waste of the gouverment's money.They went to Iraq to find out if there were any weapons of mass destruction there weren't any so just move on.

Well, Iraq is a mess, no doubt about it. Still, it takes some guts to go over there and fight, and the decision to do so should be at least respected. I personally beleive Saddam had WMD, and that there's more than meets the eye to this.

Still, ever since the insurgents started popping up and the liberals started whining and moaning and screaming, there's always been a little something that's made me laugh: If the liberals are so "humanitarian" and "compassionate", then why the hell do they not acknowledge the fact that we (America) freed the Iraqi people from horrendoes torture? Obviously, I know the answer, but...

I think that a war in post-liberation Iraq is pointless. We're fighting terrorists over the sole purpose of our occupation there--just pull out, for crissakes! Two cents deposited.

Originally Posted by rvdvrvd2003

What does she hope to accomplish by this.Does she honestly think that because she ties herself to a fence she's going to end a war.I agree with Ganondorf Moose let her stay there who cares.Bush must be feeling the presure already .

Anyway I think that the war in Iraq is a waste of the gouverment's money.They went to Iraq to find out if there were any weapons of mass destruction there weren't any so just move on.

She's trying to get to speak to Mr. Bush, and currently all eyes are on this. It doesn't look good for protestors to be marching around the White House, does it? So, naturally, she's hoping that they will bend and allow her to speak with the President.

I think you and cdx75xmx are kinda missing the point, but I could be horribly wrong. I am pretty tired, heh. =/

The son of the crazy lady might have joined the army to get away from her.Lol, but I'm not laighing about the death. There's so much blaming thats going around, so you can't really 'blame' the right person. There are tons of parents who are honored that their sons or daughters gave their life to serve this country. I agree with Ganondorf Moose, leave her their, so what happens.lol

I don't care what happens to her, she just saying that her sons death was in vain. He chose to join the military, and he knew he might die. If we pull from Iraq, then in 10-20 or less years somthing's gonna get bombed, we come together as a nation, then a few years later everyone forgets why we are fighting. Freaking hippes.

"Those who do not learn history are due to repeat it."-Thomas Jefferson. If we don't realize what we did before, than we will fall. And if Hillary Clinton becomes president, I almost thinking about moving to canada.

I'm just trying to imagine what her son would think if he saw her doing all this - he goes and makes the ultimate sacrifice, not only for his country but for the Iraqi people who are now free, and here she is making it sound like Bush put a gun to her son's head and pulled the trigger himself. And I don't know, maybe her son personally expressed to her that he thought the war was useles, but even so, Bush is not to blame any more than the Congressional majority that approved the invasion or the generals that planned it. It's a war, and in war, you can't often place the blame entirely on the shoulders of one single person.

This also reminds me somewhat of the people who tied themselves to the tall, thick trees trying to keep them from being cut down (not that it did anything - tall, thick trees can simply be cut down anyway, leaving the person tied to a stump, but I digress).

This, in the end, is a lot like Jack Thompson; they've both found a way to get a lot of attention by ostentatiously protesting an aspect of American society the media spends a lot of airtime on. I respect her loss, but not how she's blaming the President for it.

In my opinion, and let me please reiterate this is my opinion and is no way being claimed as actual fact so don't flame me mercilessly for it, it is my opinion that less good comes from protesting the war and involvement than comes from supporting it and your leaders and your troops to bring it to a successful end.

I think that a war in post-liberation Iraq is pointless. We're fighting terrorists over the sole purpose of our occupation there--just pull out, for crissakes! Two cents deposited.

The terrorists aren't idiots - Saddam's regime was much less hostile towards them than the new Iraqi democracy will be. So if the American troops pull out, if the mainstay of the Iraqi defense were to go away, then why can't they alter their objectives towards bringing down the new government? Until the Iraqi government can defend its people and itself from the terrorists around it, America should've leave. That would be setting it up for failure not entirely unlike the post-Vietnamization withdrawl from Vietnam that eventually led to the loss of South Vietnam. The key difference is that in Iraq, we can significantly weaken the enemy before leaving, or at least this time make sure that the sovereign government can handle the situation themselves.

I disagree with Cindy - I don't think her son died in vain. I think her son died for reasons she doesn't like or care about, and she can only handle it by blaming others. Maybe that's too accusatory for a subject as sensitive as the death of a mother's son in war, but I personally think she has, for herself, shattered the traditional understood respect towards the mothers of fallen soldiers. Questioning, evening protesting the war I can understand, but I believe she has taken it way too far.

- Tiberius

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I don't care what happens to her, she just saying that her sons death was in vain. He chose to join the military, and he knew he might die. If we pull from Iraq, then in 10-20 or less years somthing's gonna get bombed, we come together as a nation, then a few years later everyone forgets why we are fighting. Freaking hippes.

~Good God, I don't think I could have said it better myself.

(And this I quote)

In my opinion, and let me please reiterate this is my opinion and is no way being claimed as actual fact so don't flame me mercilessly for it, it is my opinion that less good comes from protesting the war and involvement than comes from supporting it and your leaders and your troops to bring it to a successful end.

~(In most cases) It's not your opinion, it's fact. Don't be so modest.