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Old 10-29-2005, 03:54 PM
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America defend Taiwan from Chinese invasion

First of, here's the link to my information. http://www.halturnershow.com/Chinese...AgainstUS.html
Whether it is real information or not, I honestly don't know, but I know that the situation is definitely real, regardless.


I didn't read the whole speech, I guess TV and Video Games have given me a short attention span, but China is saying that they will invade Taiwan within the next decade, and when that happens; there is no doubt that America will be dragged in to it. And as it happens, you can bet that England blindly follow America again. Also in the link, it states that

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It is indeed brutal to kill one or two hundred million Americans. But that is the only path that will secure a Chinese century, a century in which the CCP leads the world.
But I don't think that's anything to worry about; not yet anyway.

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Old 10-29-2005, 05:10 PM
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Re: America defend Taiwan from China

I seem to remember having a conversation with you about this before. Remember?

About the article. It´s actually a very scary thought. How can you say that it´s nothing to worry about when they are talking about killing everybody, including women and children, in an actual large scale invasion in about 5 to 10 years. Think of this in a global scale. Many undeveloped countries depend on the US economy to sustain themselves. If the US was to fall, all of this small countries would fall as well. Yeah, I mean, it´s hard to picture the idea of the US loosing a war but it could happen. There are certain things about the article that seemed misleading, but it appears to be real. We´ll just have to wait and see wno makes the next move.
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Old 10-29-2005, 05:19 PM
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Re: America defend Taiwan from China

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I seem to remember having a conversation with you about this before. Remember?
You must have me confused with someone else, I've never spoken to anyone about this matter before; atleast not on this forum anyway.

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How can you say that it´s nothing to worry about when they are talking about killing everybody, including women and children, in an actual large scale invasion in about 5 to 10 years.
You misinterpreted the article, than again that's probably my fault, I didn't explain properly. The invasion of Taiwan will take place within the next decade. America will only be attacked in retaliation if we try to defend Taiwan, which we will. China won't engage in a full on invasion of America untill it's absolutely necessary; but that might not even happen, that's some time in the future now and they will probably come up with a new scheme by then.

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If the US was to fall, all of this small countries would fall as well. Yeah, I mean, it´s hard to picture the idea of the US loosing a war but it could happen.
In the event of a war engaging between America and China, it will probably turn into an East vs. West thing. The Soviet Union will support China to try and invade America to spread the Communist Regime; while America, Canada & Europe will fight them off.

What confuses me is how they think they will get away with it. If they kill as many Americans as they claim they will, they would surely get destroyed. It will be like World War II all over again. Japan attacks America, America retaliates with Atomic Bombs. Except this time it's China
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Old 10-29-2005, 05:39 PM
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Re: America defend Taiwan from China

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You must have me confused with someone else, I've never spoken to anyone about this matter before; atleast not on this forum anyway.
No we were starting to have a conversation of Invasion and all that type of stuff in the Thread ¨What is your Hell¨ on this same seccion.


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You misinterpreted the article, than again that's probably my fault, I didn't explain properly. The invasion of Taiwan will take place within the next decade. America will only be attacked in retaliation if we try to defend Taiwan, which we will. China won't engage in a full on invasion of America untill it's absolutely necessary; but that might not even happen, that's some time in the future now and they will probably come up with a new scheme by then.
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Would the United States allow us to go out to gain new living space? First, if the United States is firm in blocking us, it is hard for us to do anything significant to Taiwan and some other countries! Second, even if we could snatch some land from Taiwan, Vietnam, India, or even Japan, how much more living space can we get? Very trivial! Only countries like the United States, Canada and Australia have the vast land to serve our need for mass colonization.

Therefore, solving the “issue of America” is the key to solving all other issues. First, this makes it possible for us to have many people migrate there and even establish another China under the same leadership of the CCP. America was originally discovered by the ancestors of the yellow race, but Columbus gave credit to the white race. We the descendents of the Chinese nation are entitled to the possession of the land! It is said that the residents of the yellow race have a very low social status in United States. We need to liberate them. Second, after solving the “issue of America,” the western countries in Europe would bow to us, not to mention to Taiwan, Japan and other small countries. Therefore, solving the “issue of America” is the mission assigned to CCP members by history.

It Talks not only about invading Taiwan but also taking care of the ¨issue of America¨

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In the event of a war engaging between America and China, it will probably turn into an East vs. West thing.

What confuses me is how they think they will get away with it. If they kill as many Americans as they claim they will, they would surely get destroyed. It will be like World War II all over again. Japan attacks America, America retaliates with Atomic Bombs. Except this time it's China
You could be right, except that it wouldn´t be WWII again, it would be WWIII. But as I said so before we´ll just have to wait and see who makes the next move, lets not get ahead of ourselves.

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Old 10-29-2005, 05:48 PM
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Re: America defend Taiwan from China

Oh right, I see what you mean. Yeah I agree with the whole of your post. I think there will be a standstill until China commences the invasion of Taiwan, unless they come to an agreement. Than whether America intervenes or not will be the deciding factor, whether there will be war or not.
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Old 10-29-2005, 05:59 PM
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Anyways, if this is the real deal, It´s a matter that involves the whole global community. I highly dought that the rest of the world nations are going to sit back and allow this massacre to happen. They are sure to take action, whether they are going to try and stop this foolish actions or just join one of the opposing sides (as you said so before).
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:09 PM
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I want to see what Japan do, they could form an alliance with America and allow America to deploy Air Bases in their land or contribute to China. There's no doubt that this will have a knock-on effect across the globe, I don't imagine anyone will sit back and watch; unless they are in fear of being attacked that is.
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:19 PM
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I want to see what Japan do, they could form an alliance with America and allow America to deploy Air Bases in their land or contribute to China.
Actually at this very moment Japan is allowing an american nuclear propelled ship to rest in its waters, I think it was the plane carrier (I´m really not sure about it´s name).
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:27 PM
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^Really? Hmm. I wonder what they would want an Aircraft Carrier in Japanese territory for?
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Old 10-29-2005, 06:35 PM
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Who knows, the article is incomplete. It fails to state reasons for this decision. Well we seem to be getting off topic, so I´ll allow other people to comment on your article. I´ll see you around
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Re: America defend Taiwan from China

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The Soviet Union will support China
Please tell me that you're making an historical comparison. The Soviet Union fell in 1991.

As for Taiwan, I don't know what will happen, although the US will most likely get involved. *please note that I didn't read the article, I just remember hearing about this a few weeks ago*
I don't think it would turn into an East vs West thing. China would have their allies, yes, but I doubt that Japan would join them. I don't think they have much of an army anymore, anyway.

I guess we'll just have to see what the future holds.
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Old 10-29-2005, 09:50 PM
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Re: America defend Taiwan from China

I admit in advance I didn't read the article - I'm physically ill, so I spend this post sharing my knowledge and opinion on this subject.

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The invasion of Taiwan will take place within the next decade.
China has been irritated by Taiwan since the 1950's, and there have been numerous incidents over that little island. I don't see why they would invade it now if they've waited 50 years. They should also realize that, by invading, they will potentially ruin these countries economically. They have half-acknowledged that Capitalism works better than Communism because their economy is very capitalist and because they left Hong Kong pretty much unchanged when Britain gave it back to them.

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I don't think it would turn into an East vs West thing. China would have their allies, yes, but I doubt that Japan would join them. I don't think they have much of an army anymore, anyway.
Although Japan doesn't have an army (we defend them - I believe someone also pointed out the nuclear submarine stationed in Japan), it would be East vs West to some extent. Russia would join China because they are closer allies; China is Russia's biggest customer in military technology, and in recent months, they staged a joint military war game. So the end result would be Russia, China, and possibly North Korea against America, the European Union, and possibly India and Australia.

I don't know if it'd be nuclear - everyone knows that nuclear war means everyone loses. Tactical nukes would be a big issue. The USA has better technology, so even though China has more troops, I'm comfident America could inflict 4:1 or even 5:1 casualties because they can maintain air superiority. This all could easily change in 10 years, though, because China is advancing faster than the USA.

China wants to lead the world, but that's unrealistic. If they want to lead the world, they can't destroy it; disrupt America, or Japan, or India, or Europe, and you disrupt too much. Everything's too connected for any one country to rule - even to say America is ruling is naive. It's all interconnected, and if they attack Taiwan, it's just going to push over the first domino, and things could get very, very ugly fast.

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Old 10-29-2005, 09:56 PM
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Re: America defend Taiwan from China

This is so outrageously over the top, and so ringingly suspicious that I'm locking this until a credible news source substantiates this. Read: this isn't going to be reopened.
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