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"Reverse Racism."

Black people getting promotions first over better workers because the owners don't want to be seen as racist.
Rappers who rape people getting the community behind them when they're arrested, saying "they hate me cuz I'm black."
Australian Aboriginals getting payed by the government for their skin colour.
A black man and a white man get into a fight - headlines, "Racist beats up black person."
In movies such as Bruce Almighty, God had to be black because they would have been sued for racism if not.

Why are they getting more rights than us? What happened to equality?
What's your take?

Edit: And another one. Why are others allowed to call us "Whiteys" and be perfectly fine but "Blackeys" is racist? Why can you get away with making a movie called "White men can't jump"? As I've heard somone say before, imagine the controversy if someone created a movie called "Black men can't read"?

Edit Edit: Please stop commenting on the title name. As I said a couple times down in the thread, I didn't mean that only whites could be racist and the other way was reverse racism. I call it that because it's the effect of racism reversing onto us in an attempt to make things equal.
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Old 10-24-2005, 05:24 PM
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

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Black people getting promotions first over better workers because the owners don't want to be seen as racist.
That's a key issue in the states right now, personally I think that the job goes to the most qualified, no matter the race or whatever. That being said, it was something that was actually needed if a black person ever wanted a job after the civil rights movement. So what is worse; a black person getting a job over a white person because of the fact they are black; or a white person getting a job over a black person because they were black?

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Rappers who rape people getting the community behind them when they're arrested, saying "they hate me cuz I'm black."
I can't think of an instance of this occuring where the criminal got off by getting the community behind them. The only rapper I can think of who raped some one at the moment is currently serving a six year jail sentance...and the somewhat low time is because he's not the most mentally stable person around.

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Australian Aboriginals getting payed by the government for their skin colour.
I don't know enough about Australian Aboriginal rights and their position in society to really comment on this, but here in Canada we provide our Aboriginals with certain privileges because we admittedly messed up their culture and lifestyle way back in the day. While I don't agree with everything they are privileged to, I can see why they exist.

[quoteA black man and a white man get into a fight - headlines, "Racist beats up black person."[/quote]
Never seen such a headline...but I'm sure many fights that occur between white and black men have at least a small racial undertone, though it may come from either side.

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In movies such as Bruce Almighty, God had to be black because they would have been sued for racism if not.
Morgan Freedman was chosen to play God because he's a good actor, not because he's black. Next you'll be telling me Alanis was chosen to play God in Dogma because she's a woman.

There's no such thing as "Reverse Racism," just plain old racism, whether its from a white person, a black person, an aboriginal, a hispanic, an asian, or any other type of person. It's all just racism, and none of it is good.
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Old 10-24-2005, 05:28 PM
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

My take is this, the descendants of my associated treated colored people like dirt, now I pay even though my descendants came to America after the civil war and the abolition of slavery(they were too poor to own slaves anyway so it wouldn't have mattered). What I am trying to say is simple. Deal with it.

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There's no such thing as "Reverse Racism," just plain old racism, whether its from a white person, a black person, an aboriginal, a hispanic, an asian, or any other type of person. It's all just racism, and none of it is good.
there is, it is when someone has to act in favor of another race which is typically a victim to racism in an attept to come of socially correct.

In the end how I feal is simple, your skin doesn't matter, it's your character and your perseverence, it's your ethics. Martin Luther King Jr. is one of my hero's, he promoted equality and peace, The same applies to Booker T. Washington. Malcolm X though in my opinion is a bastard, or at the least his approach was.
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Old 10-24-2005, 05:29 PM
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

The term you're looking for is counter-racism, not reverse-racism.
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Old 10-24-2005, 05:34 PM
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

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Why are they getting more rights than us? What happened to equality?
What's your take?
Equality?!!? Where???!! please tell me where equality ever exsisted, because I've never once seen it in american society.
If you want to put an end to all racism, then you must put the race benefiting from the racist system at a disadvantage for a while.
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Old 10-24-2005, 05:35 PM
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

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The term you're looking for is counter-racism, not reverse-racism.
counter rascism would nullify it, reverse rascism is more action where it affects people on the other side of things as a result of attempting to nullify rascism.
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Old 10-24-2005, 05:35 PM
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

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My take is this, the descendants of my associated treated colored people like dirt, now I pay even though my descendants came to America after the civil war and the abolition of slavery(they were too poor to own slaves anyway so it wouldn't have mattered). What I am trying to say is simple. Deal with it.


there is, it is when someone has to act in favor of another race which is typically a victim to racism in an attept to come of socially correct..
while I only support income-based affirmative action, I will say this - affirmative action is not there to punish you for being white. this is not some form of revenge. the goal of affirmative action is to provide diversity and help get minorities out of their poverty cycle. so affirmative action is not based on what happened in history, it's based on the present situation.
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:09 PM
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

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Black people getting promotions first over better workers because the owners don't want to be seen as racist.
Rappers who rape people getting the community behind them when they're arrested, saying "they hate me cuz I'm black."
Australian Aboriginals getting payed by the government for their skin colour.
A black man and a white man get into a fight - headlines, "Racist beats up black person."
In movies such as Bruce Almighty, God had to be black because they would have been sued for racism if not.

Why are they getting more rights than us? What happened to equality?
What's your take?
Black people don't get promotions before white people in all the jobs I've worked at the person that worked the hardest got the promotion.So I don't know where you got this fact out of.

I don't know any example where a black person got off with a crime because he's black.Any lawyer who would use this as a defence is an idiot the race card is basically a last resort and it never works.I'd like to see your example of the rapper getting away with rape because he was black.The only reason you used a rapper as an example instead of a movie star or another celebrity is because it is a stereotype that all black celebritys are rappers.That is what I call racist. :mad:

I don't know about the Australian Aboriginals but here in Canada all that the Natives get are some land that was originally theirs and they don't have to pay taxes because taxes are for goods and services if they don't want those goods and services they shouldn't have to pay the tax.

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A black man and a white man get into a fight - headlines, "Racist beats up black person."
I've never seen a 2 man fight make the headlines so that example doesn't even make sense.

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In movies such as Bruce Almighty, God had to be black because they would have been sued for racism if not.
Well in every other movie that I've seen god has been white so by your logic every movie that has featured god as white isn't racist but the one movie that features god as black is racist.It's not the movie that seems racist to me

I agree with what another person said there is no such thing as reverse racism just plain old racism.
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Old 10-25-2005, 05:25 AM
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

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The term you're looking for is counter-racism, not reverse-racism.
I call it reverse racism because it's reversed onto us in an attempt to make it equal.


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Equality?!!? Where???!! please tell me where equality ever exsisted, because I've never once seen it in american society.
I meant the idea of equality, the idea that started the rights of blacks in the first place.

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I've never seen a 2 man fight make the headlines so that example doesn't even make sense.
Welcome to my small town in South Australia. You'd be surprise at what small things make the headlines.
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Old 10-25-2005, 07:17 AM
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

"Reverse Racism" is a oxymoron. It's not right by saying "Oh, only African-Americans are subjected to racism." Guess what? It's not only African-Americans who are raisct, it's every race! Black, White, Latino, Asian, every race! My lilttle sister is raisct to white pepole, is that "Reverse Racism? No! That's just pure racism, no matter what's it call.

But some ingorant people think that isn't racist in anyway, because some people think "Oh, it's okay for African-Americans to be rasict towards whites because whites did that to African-Americans during the 1800s! " Well, that is wrong! Every race is subjected to racism. Racism have been going around for years, even before slavey.

All in all, there is no such thing as Revere Racism, just pure racism.
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

The word 'reverse racism' is an oxymoron, due to the fact that it implies that racisim is totaly linear and that only Race X can hate the other races and Race W, Y , and Z are seen as peaceful and non-discrimitory. In fact, the better word for how black people are getting more benefits based on skin color is, 'discrimination.'

I do think it is unfair that a black person can get into college easier based on skin color, because this leaves out the white kids that have the education that actualy deserve to go there. Plus, I do hate it when some black people imply that since I'm white, I had racist ancestors and I am a racist. My parents came to America in the 20th century, long after slavery ended. These days, being politicly correct is just being politicaly incorrect.
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

-_-.

1. I put the title in quotes for a reason.
2. If you read up a couple posts, I said that I call it that because it has reversed onto whites in an attempt to make things equal, I don't think that only whites can be racist (even if the media does).
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Re: "Reverse Racism."

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Equality?!!? Where???!! please tell me where equality ever exsisted, because I've never once seen it in american society.
If you want to put an end to all racism, then you must put the race benefiting from the racist system at a disadvantage for a while.
See, the problem with that is that eventually african-americans will become racist because of all the propaganda being spread. Of course, I understand completely where your coming from, and it's not at all an invalid idea. In fact, it's probably the best course for now. I'm just saying that there are downsides to everything anyone does so long as there are those who will abuse the system for their own personal gain.

Racism in and of itself is complete idiocy. It is a delusion that the racist is better than another person for a reason that the victim has no power over, and sometimes it's even a defense mechanism for those who feel inferior to another race for some reason, or sometimes even because they were just raised around people who were racist to begin with. It's an endless cycle, and eradicating it altogether is nigh impossible. There is no clear solution to the problem... and that's exactly why we're stuck where we are now. The best solution anyone can come up with is to tip the scales in the opposite direction and give the racist whites a taste of their own medicine. The only problem with that is the fact that it causes major clashes between the two sides of the racism scale. Now we have both white racists and black racists, and that's just not good.

This is more of an analysis than a solution, really... To be honest, I have no idea how this problem can be solved. All I can say is that it's a ridiculous problem that should never have arisen to begin with. This is what happens when you hate, people. This is what happens when you fail to show love and compassion to someone for any reason at all. This is the reason that the world is in this hateful, loathing, imperfect state. Because of a lack of heart-felt compassion. Until mankind as a whole has attained that quality, we can never be one again. It's truly a sad predicament... We are the weavers of our own destruction.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:31 AM
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Equality?!!? Where???!! please tell me where equality ever exsisted, because I've never once seen it in american society.
If you want to put an end to all racism, then you must put the race benefiting from the racist system at a disadvantage for a while.
"If everything were an eye for an eye everyone would be blind" - Ghandi

So to prevent racism, white people should be the subject of racism? Way to contradict yourself.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:42 AM
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"If everything were an eye for an eye everyone would be blind" - Ghandi

So to prevent racism, white people should be the subject of racism? Way to contradict yourself.
It's not a matter of contradiction, it's a matter of finding a plausible solution, let me quote myself once again.

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Thats the point, it may be very radical, in fact, it's one of the most radical ideas out there, but to combat decrimination against minorities, you must discriminate against the white majority.

Look at it this way, the whole race deal is like one giant track race. The white team got a huge head start, they kept on lapping the other race teams who weren't allowed to start yet. Then came the 50's and 60's which let all the other race teams start the race..... I'm sure you see the problem here, the whites still have a massively unfair advantage. So in order to make everyone equal, the white team must be forced to stop and allow the other race teams to catch up.

Affirmative action, while is discriminatory, allows blacks and other racial minorities to catch up to where whites are in society.
Even if minorities were given an "unfair" advantage against whites, the white populace really wouldn't suffer all that much because they have lived in a system that benefitted them for so long.
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