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Okay, so I am learning about world religions in my history course. We have been studying them for the longest time.
So far we have looked at: Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Baha'i Faith, Wicca, Naroin, Neo-Druidism, Heathenism, Hinduism, Jainism, Zoroastrianism, Sikhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Shinto, Buddhism, and Ayyavazhi. Each of these religions are very similar in beliefs with one another, but obviously the way we practice are very different and so are our views of who God is. So, do you think we all can get to Heaven? Explain why you think as you do, please. I don't know what to think, and I need your opinions for help.
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I'm a christian. While my denomination is methodist I don't really care about that because I consider all christians to be of the same faith. Anyway even if you're an aetheist so long as you're a good person you'll go to heaven. Conversely someone that kills others for not believeing the same(there are many examples ranging from Columbus to the present day middle eastern terrorists) will not be admitted despite their belief in God.
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There is no supernatural world. ALL religions are wrong so none of the followers of any of them are going to heaven. Because there is no heaven. None. |

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I'm going to be blunt: this is not, so far, a fruitful discussion.
I want to save this topic by teasing something out from your first post: what about these 17 religious traditions makes you (nobody has challenged this yet) say that they're all very similar in beliefs? I don't see much common ground between Judaism and Buddhism, to pull two not-so-randomly off the list (not-so-randomly because I am aware of the noted phenomenon of melding the two traditions, which is very interesting to me). The nature of the divine and of the world that we live in could hardly be understood to be more different, as far as I'm concerned, in those two faiths. That you see them as very similar in beliefs is of great importance to the very new theological movement you're implicitly engaging in. |

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This should not become a debate on the existence of God(s), alright?
I second Trico's question about why you think all those faiths are similar. I, personally, see very little similar beyond a general "Good things happen to good people" idea which seems very deep-seated in how humans perceive the world, despite being, well, false in many situations.
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Now for the sake of conversation I'd assume that if there was a heaven everyone who lived a good live would get there, regardless of religious choice. |

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Uh, so...
What is the point of this topic? Are you asking if a religion will get to heaven? Or if a religion's believers will get to heaven? Or if a religion will get you to heaven? Or whether or not a religion has the doctrine of heaven in it? These topics rarely make any sense because proper context isn't given.
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This is seems to be the new trend among fairly enlightened, well-meaning individuals. Metaphorically, there are multiple paths to the top of the mountain of spirituality and goodness. Of course this liberalized "pantheism" is far preferable to the often virulent orthodox versions of religion, but I still think it is pretty weak in its own right. It fosters an environment in which the dogmatic strains of faith can thrive. It cherry picks the rational, admirable or otherwise benign aspects of faith and pretends the mean parts don't exist. By exaggerating certain philosophical similarities (which are hardly unique to religion anyway, but are rather grounded in common sense and decency) and smoothing over differences, they create the very questionable impression that religion, no matter what sort, is basically good. Atheism is such a dirty word. Subconsciously, people seem to equate it with immorality. Therefore, I think it would be wise and pragmatic for atheists to adopt a new label. I like Bill Maher's suggestion: "rationalists."
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It's really unfortunate that atheism is such a dirty word, since all it really means is "lack of theism". Hell, everyone is born an atheist. But the reason I am hesitant to tell people I'm an atheist is that they will automatically assume I'm the sort of atheist portrayed in the media (the angry/vocal/determined kind), which is actually a very small amount of atheists.
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I think that unless any of those religions can prove that Heaven even exists to begin with there's no reason to think any of them can get anyone there.
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