Having Children

Originally Posted by Celvantis

people hate kids, Its not a mental illness. they just do so get over it.

I must respectfully disagree; I'm actually quite fond of children, and I'm relatively sure I don't have a mental illness regarding children. I don't plan to raise children anytime soon, however, as I am not prepared - either mentally or financially - for it. I have, however, entertained the idea of adopting a child at some point in my life. ^_^;

I think people should have to be licensed before they have kids.

I'm not fainacially secured to raise a child, nor do I think I have the right temperment. I mean, I get annoyed at my two puppies when they make a loud racket and don't listen to me, so how can I expect myself to be any less to human babies? I'd just be another father in the long list of fathers whose kids hate their very existance.

Although if I did have a child, I'll make sure that he/she accomplishes whatever he/she wants and I'll stand by them while attempting to not hover over their shoulders.

kman: That's either a really good idea or ridiculous government control. While I dislike when the government gets too involved in things that idea actually has some sense to it!

I find the possibility of me getting married unlikely, so any children I raise probably won't be my own.

I do plan on adopting once I am fiscally able to. I feel the world needs a Mander, no matter the generation.

Originally Posted by kman7100

I think people should have to be licensed before they have kids.

I actually like this idea. It has sense to it. This way, teen pregnancies would be illegal (if it already isn't) and would probably reduce the rate of young pregnancies.

I don't like people who lose their virginity too early because most of the time, they act like prostitutes and prostitutes are dirty.

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

I actually like this idea. It has sense to it. This way, teen pregnancies would be illegal (if it already isn't) and would probably reduce the rate of young pregnancies.

This is a reasonable idea in theory, but its effectiveness is limited in reality. May I point out China's One-Couple One-Child Policy? That law hasn't necessarily really cut down on sex - much of them underage and under the radar - but increased the number of children being abandoned, especially girls who are deemed "less useful" in the less developed regions of the nation. >_<

Yea cause teenagers (in western society) are renowned for their law abiding ways. Sorry for the sarcasm, it seemed innapropriate. Anywho, the license idea might work in theory, but without some sort of punishment (which is strictly out of the question) then I don't believe it would be very effective. Gov'ment needs to stay out of the bedroom anyways.

Originally Posted by Ysionris

This is a reasonable idea in theory, but its effectiveness is limited in reality. May I point out China's One-Couple One-Child Policy? That law hasn't necessarily really cut down on sex - much of them underage and under the radar - but increased the number of children being abandoned, especially girls who are deemed "less useful" in the less developed regions of the nation. >_<

Chinese couples are allowed to have more than one child, they just have to pay higher taxes or something.

I know the license idea would only work in theory, but it would make people think a bit more about it...hopefully.

Originally Posted by Beemnorv

Chinese couples are allowed to have more than one child, they just have to pay higher taxes or something.

It didn't use to be this way, and it still didn't really cut down on childbirths. It's only nowadays - and in the more developed regions - that fines - not taxes - apply, by the way. ^_^

Originally Posted by Ysionris

It didn't use to be this way, and it still didn't really cut down on childbirths.

If they had more than one child illegally, then I think the extra child was taken away.

Beemnorv: That brings up a whole of other problems now that i think about. If this was implemented the number of abortions, abandonements, infanticides, etc. would no doubt go up.

^ Or people could just not have another kid to avoid that happening. Chinese parents are pretty strict when it comes to following what they believe to be right. If they want to have another child, they move to a different country.

WHich brings us back to the problem that over time society has loosened its morals to the point where nobody will care about such things. Also I'd just like to point out that some people who want kids might not be able to have them so this wouldn't really be fair.

edit: To those of you that were offended but what I previously had posted I apologize. I'm aware that both Liberals and Conservatives have caused changes in society, some negative others positive. Again I'm sorry.

I'm not quite sure what you said there. (I'm not too familiar with politics.)

People who want kids and can't have them due to reproductive problems can adopt. People who can't have kids because of political issues can move to a country where they can. If they can't afford that...well...life's not fair to begin with anyway.

Come on people, this thread isn't about politics; it's about peoples' choice not to havc children.

I think I want to have/adopt kids later in my life. At the moment, I don't care, and I do think that there is way too much work with a baby. But I still want to see the children of mine and my partner, raise them and watch them grow up. After all, when we will be 80+, we probably won't have sex, and our only entertainment will be our kids... xP
Also, I don't think a baby would make me to love my partner less, I think I'd even love him more. Of course, I can't tell it surely now, because I'm too young. Yeah.

However, I don't think it's unnatural or immoral if you don't want children. Adopting is a nice thing, but if you don't want at all, that is completely normal. It's your life after all, and I can totally understand all the things why you don't want children. Anyway, as Ikana General said, you won't be contributing to over-population, and it is pretty important as well.

Originally Posted by Ikana General

Of course, I'd adopt a somewhat older child, to avoid the stress of taking care of a baby or toddler.

Just saying that a teenager is perhaps more stressful than a toddler.

If my kid would shape up to be even half the teenager I was, I'll pass. Unfortunately you can't know these things in advance.

I think I'm not going to have any kids unless my permanent girlfriend (not wife, marriage is also not for me) really wants one. She's gonna have to clean up after it though

I'd decline on having children for the responsibilities would be both tedious and stressful. I am also not liking the spike in population. The Earth can only hold and supply so many people. I also believe that the lower intelligence population produces the most offspring. *cough*idiocracyreference*cough*

I'm with you on not wanting kids. I have a few reasons. First off I have many health issues that have made my life harder than it really should be. I don't want to put someone else through that. Even the risk is too much. I won't pass on my flawed genetics. Next is that I don't really like kids. I don't like being around them. I find birth gross and wouldn't put my wife through that. I don't want to have to spend all that money on a kid(s) when I'm better off supporting my and my wife's lifestyle and such. I'd be fine donating money to charities that help kids etc, I just don't want to "own" one.