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Old 10-15-2009, 10:03 PM
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Corporeal Punishment.

To be more specific, the corporeal punishment of children. Do you agree with it? Disagree? Why? Please remember, that this is a touchy subject, try to keep comments tactful as there may be people who have experienced abuse through this.

Personally, I don't know what to believe. I come from a predominately white, rich, sub-urban city and everyday I see the effects of a lack of proper discipline, and admittedly there are times when I think to myself "I wish could spank these brats," keep in mind this is my thought about teenagers. Not children. I honestly think a good ass-whooping could teach them a good lesson.

On the other hand, I can see children and become like butter on toast fresh from the oven, and I expect that is very likely what most parents experience when trying to discipline children. But I'm not sure if "Go to your room," or "sit on the stairs" is going to discipline children properly.

I feel I ended up lucky in this department. I can only remember one occasion where I was spanked, and it was by my uncle when I spilt his coffee on him. I don't quite remember if it was an accident or on purpose, but I ran the **** out of there before he caught me up two floors and almost out the back door. Apparently, my dad used to hit me for silly little things, but I've no recollection of that. I ended up being a pretty spoiled preteen, and I probably still am to a degree, but I feel I'm farther ahead of these people in that I'm at least aware of this. My mother's family probably influenced me a lot in that respect.

So how do you feel on this subject?
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:18 PM
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Re: Corporeal Punishment.

I think punishment can be avoided perhaps with proper guidance.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:08 AM
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Re: Corporeal Punishment.

you shouldn't have to resort to violence to teach a lesson. in fact, I think that's one of the worst things you can do as it can teach a child that that they can solve their problems through hitting. i found that the best way to punish a child is to take away the things they like doing. When I was babysitting a particularly spoiled child, instead of sending him to his room where he would be surrounded by toys and video games and such, I made him sit in a chair with nothing to do for a couple of hours. after a few sessions of that, he didn't try to cross me again. That may not work with every child, but think it's better than smacking the kid when you don't get your way with them.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:17 AM
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Re: Corporeal Punishment.

There's a rather large difference between abuse and punishment. Whenever I misbehaved as a child, I was spanked; depending on the severity, it would be with administered via a hand, belt, or paddle. I was never grounded or told to go to my room, and from what I can tell, it worked out rather well; none of us were ever terribly misbehaved, even during our rebellious teenage years. Sure, we did some stupid things and got into trouble, but the spankings helped us to determine where our boundaries lay, and we took steps to avoid stepping outside of them.

So yeah, I believe in corporeal punishment, and I can see myself spanking my future kids if they misbehave. It doesn't make me a violent person, nor does it make me a child abuser.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:28 AM
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Re: Corporeal Punishment.

I think corporeal punishment is practically useless. It is too brief, and anyone who is past the age of 8 could easily endure it, as such, it is a very poor preventative for further behavior.
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Old 10-16-2009, 01:19 AM
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Re: Corporeal Punishment.

I don't really have all the info from both sides on this one, but I will say that I got my ass beat quite a bit when I was a child. Not "beat" beat, just butt whoopin's. I can honestly say that it is most likely the one thing in my childhood that DID NOT cause any damage to my brain, psyche, ego, or anything else. I screwed up, I got whooped, I didn't screw up again. The end. That's just my personal take on it.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:26 AM
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Re: Corporeal Punishment.

Personaly I agree with it, if the kid deserves it then they should recieve it. I got spanked as a kid and learned not to do what I got spanked for quick. You have to start early or else the kid will start to think that the worest thing that will happen just being grounded. Our society needs to stop being so afraid when it comes to discipline.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:43 AM
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Re: Corporeal Punishment.

People need to be taught why something is wrong, and why not to do it, rather than fear consequences of doing it. Making people fear the consequences is such an empty victory, though sometimes needed.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:58 AM
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People need to be taught why something is wrong, and why not to do it, rather than fear consequences of doing it. Making people fear the consequences is such an empty victory, though sometimes needed.
Well if you get spanked without being told why, yea, that would be the result. But it's not so much out of fear than it is respect for authority (coming from a guy who punched a cop ). Rules are there to keep the world from falling into chaos, and they struggle doing that enough as it is.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:31 AM
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Well if you get spanked without being told why, yea, that would be the result. But it's not so much out of fear than it is respect for authority (coming from a guy who punched a cop ). Rules are there to keep the world from falling into chaos, and they struggle doing that enough as it is.
you don't need to spank your kid to get them to follow the rules. The reason why kids lack discipline today isn't because we don't hit them enough, it's because we don't follow through with our disciplinary measures. if you never give in to a misbehaving child, they soon learn not to cross you.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:45 AM
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you don't need to spank your kid to get them to follow the rules. The reason why kids lack discipline today isn't because we don't hit them enough, it's because we don't follow through with our disciplinary measures. if you never give in to a misbehaving child, they soon learn not to cross you.
I didn't say anything about hitting them. I said spank. But yes, the not following through thing is true, which is what I said in my previous post, about not why and all that.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:47 AM
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Smack'em in the ass!

If they do something wrong and timeouts and what not DON'T work, spank'em!
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:56 AM
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Smack'em in the ass!

If they do something wrong and timeouts and what not DON'T work, spank'em!
Bingo. Also, let me state than a spanking shouldn't be the auto punishment for everything. Only the particularly bad stuff. I don't think I mentioned that earlier. Also, nice Venture Bro.s reference.
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Old 10-16-2009, 11:58 AM
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Bingo. Also, let me state than a spanking shouldn't be the auto punishment for everything. Only the particularly bad stuff. I don't think I mentioned that earlier. Also, nice Venture Bro.s reference.
This also is why I said if time out's don't work.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:04 PM
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Parents these days are too soft If I acted up I got a spanking(if I was a real PITA, I got spanked with a belt)

It works I am not metally scarred and I learned my lesson.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:04 PM
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Physical punishment might be useful...here a little guide...

But in all seriousness, if kids would just learn the implications of their actions, and why not to do something. Instead of making them fear the repercussions, which gets them nothing, we need to educate them about the consequences so they can make smarter decisions and actually gain more insight through that understanding.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:09 PM
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Physical punishment might be useful...here a little guide...

But in all seriousness, if kids would just learn the implications of their actions, and why not to do something. Instead of making them fear the repercussions, which gets them nothing, we need to educate them about the consequences so they can make smarter decisions and actually gain more insight through that understanding.
But a lot of young children can't/won't understand why they can't do those things.

Besides, spanking is better than "Fine! Stick your finger in the electric socket and find out what happens!"
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But a lot of young children can't/won't understand why they can't do those things.

Besides, spanking is better than "Fine! Stick your finger in the electric socket and find out what happens!"
My parent's told me not to touch the hot grill. They said it would hurt me. I touched it anyway. It hurt me. I never touched it again.
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My parent's told me not to touch the hot grill. They said it would hurt me. I touched it anyway. It hurt me. I never touched it again.
Well chances are that won't kill you haha.
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Old 10-16-2009, 12:51 PM
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Well chances are that won't kill you haha.
Incidents like that allow you to gain a load more respect for the words of your guardians.
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