The Swine Flu Vaccine

Within the next few weeks the vaccine will be available to the general public. However, should you take it? Personally, I find it as a toxic witch's brew that is more troublesome than the virus itself (if it even is dangerous). The reason being is that it contains Squalene. "But that is a naturally occurring substance in our body! Why is that bad?" Squalene is an oil found in various parts of your body, even in your central nervous system. Where it is not found, however, is your bloodstream. Why? Because when Squalene enters the bloodstream, the body recognizes it as a toxin, and attacks it. Because of this, the body will attack all of the Squalene in your body. This will cause your body to overreact and in turn either make you severely ill or kill you. And where is a vaccine injected? Into the bloodstream. Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to various medical websites, this is the case. Also, medical workers are refusing to take it, the researchers who made it are refusing to take it, and even Ron Paul is urging people not to take it. I trust his input, because he is an actual doctor as well one of the only trustworthy politicians in the U.S.A.

You can say I'm full of BS, but you can look all of this up, and you will find many websites, news articles, even TV broadcasts that support this notion.

By the way, as of right now, the virus is one of the weakest illnesses I have ever encountered. Believe me, I had it last week. Every single symptom. It is nothing.

If it kills me so be it.

I have better things to do than worry.

Originally Posted by Xeves

By the way, as of right now, the virus is one of the weakest illnesses I have ever encountered. Believe me, I had it last week. Every single symptom. It is nothing.

Firstly, swine flu symptoms are pretty much the same as people flu symptoms. You could have just had people flu.

Second, I recently heard some girls died of swine flu and they had no underlying problems.

Also, I'm sure they've tested the vaccine to make sure it's safe. I don't see why doctors would go giving out a vaccine that would make someone get so ill.

Just because they tested it doesn't mean that they didn't put out the full results. Hell, the fact that this vaccine has immense amounts of squalene is enough to show they don't have any regard for us. And actually, they tested it on children. Just goes to show how ethical they are. Honestly, the companies who are making it are trying to make this too fast and too hasty, resorting to adjuvants like squalene and mercury in order to make it fast and cheap. I don't care if the FDA approved it, the FDA approved a lot of things that are terrible for our health. We will just have to wait and see how this all plays out. If I die of the Swine because I have too much pride, so be it. But if I am right and this vaccine kills off half of the population, then I will lose all respect for government. Not that I have much as it is.

This is gonna turn into I Am Legend, isn't it?

as long as I get to put down my own pet zombie dog before he bites my hand off, I'm ok with that.

"What the hell are you doing out here, Fred? Fred, if you're real, you better tell me right now! "

Well, at least we would all just turn into supernatural vampires instead of dieing due to an uncaring and profit driven pharmaceutical company trying to save money.

Originally Posted by Xeves

Why? Because when Squalene enters the bloodstream, the body recognizes it as a toxin, and attacks it. Because of this, the body will attack all of the Squalene in your body. This will cause your body to overreact and in turn either make you severely ill or kill you.

Actually it doesn't. An influenza vaccine containing Squalene has been used in the EU since 1997. If what you say is true, then there would be hundreds of millions of people killed by now as a result of this vaccine. Also humans have Squalene anti-bodies regardless of whether or not they received a vaccine containing the compound. So unless our bodies are designed to destroy themselves, having Squalene injected into your body will not trigger the reaction you described.

Swine flu and other flu's are really only dangerous if you get something like broncidus with it while your recoving. I just recovered from Swine Flu and it really wassn't a big deal. As for the vaccine I've taken them before and nothings happen and as long as it's one a year it seems to be fine.

While I doubt getting the swine flu vaccine is likely to cause any harm in most people, I don't see why it's worth the risk when it's only something like swine flu. It's no worse than the regular flu. I'm a reasonably healthy person, and I'm in no danger of dying from influenza, be it the swine flu variety or the normal kind, so I see no reason why I should get the vaccine for it.

If someone has some sort of illness or weakened immune system, then I think they should get the vaccine; but for everyone else, I see no reason to.

I just heard on my alarm clock radio that the vaccine had been tested and proven to be safe. I'd like to get it if I can. My friend here, TheLastRito, had swine flu herself too, but even though she said it felt no more like a bad cold, I don't want to die like those girls I heard about either.

But perhaps those girls DID have some underlying problem that wasn't detected...

It's a Guv'ment plot to kill and brainwash everyone! seriously, the FDA has rigorous testing procedures to make sure these sort of things are safe for consumption. While i have had swine flu, and i know that the many people probably don't need the vaccine, people wil not be any worse off if they do take it.

If you don't get the regular flu vaccine every year then I don't see why you should be thinking of getting the swine flu vaccine...

oh for god's sake this is stupid.

first of all, the pandemic H1N1/09 virus is almost exactly the same, in effect, to the H1N1 virus that goes around every single year. You know, the typical seasonal flu. It has the same symptoms, and it isn't any more contagious or deadly than usual. So if you don't normally get the flu vaccine (and I can tell you I never do) then don't bother.

second of all, you're full of BS. Here, I looked it up, just like you said.

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=851

less than five minutes of research and I already know you're full of BS. Not only are squalene adjuvants completely harmless, the flu vaccine used in the United States doesn't have any adjuvants in it. So even if it were deadly (which it isn't, and we can know this since no one has died from it yet) it wouldn't matter (at least to anyone in the United States, including you).

so stop being paranoid.

@Lysis: Well then I stand corrected. However, saying that there are no adjuvants in this vaccine is a false statement, because there are. But I'll take your word for it, seeing as the article you posted disproves the exact same article I read before making this thread. Well, I guess I learned my lesson. Just because the person is a doctor doesn't mean they can't spout bull****. I really need to stop being brainwashed by my brother about all of this conspiracy stuff. He is kind of a moron when it comes to common sense in the first place, something that actually is spreading like a virus to me. I'm still not taking the vaccine though. I'll save for someone with an underlying condition, who are the people that are really at risk from this. Besides, I don't see H1N1 as a big threat to humanity in the first place, nor do I feel the need to take the risk of it actually being bad for you.

Edit: Nevermind about the adjuvant part, I just read that that is only in Europe.

and all you had to do was look it up on Wikipedia, like I did.

^ Again, thanks. I need to calm the hell down, and stop making an idiot of myself all over the internet. I've done it plenty of times on this site, in fact in almost half of my posts are full of moronic and unfounded claims (which I now realize). That's what I get for not taking the time to really research this stuff, as well as being a sheep towards my brother, who is just sucked in by anything on the internet. He even believed for a short while that Bush was a Nazi. So again, sorry for the hasty outbursts.

Edit: also, this comment on the article you posted really just destroys any credibility that this Mercola hack ever had (if he did). Mercola is the guy that wrote the phony article I read. I can't believe that I ignored the fact that anything you eat will have its nutrients put in the bloodstream, in turn putting squalene in the bloodstream. Jesus I'm an idiot.

Anyway, here's the quote:

"I was a patient of Dr Mercola, and he is an MD for the one who asked, for a long time in my childhood. STAY AWAY! Even the people at the health food store I went to said that he was way too extreme. All our family friends left before we did. The man is into fads and making money. He was all about running in the 80s and told a family friend with severe back problems to run every day.
My history with his office is long and every time I hear that name I get annoyed. I had chronic strep as a child and he refused to take my tonsils out. I have been on so much medication that I developed problems to antibiotics."

This is why this section is a godsend. It helps me become more intelligent everytime I make an ass of myself.

I've taken swine flu shots with Squalene.

I stand alive.
Oh, and I'm happy about you becoming more intelligent, it's a good feeling; I'd also like to give you a compliment for not making yourself look more like a jackass by defending yourself wildly.

Originally Posted by Danger

I've taken swine flu shots with Squalene.

I stand alive.
Oh, and I'm happy about you becoming more intelligent, it's a good feeling; I'd also like to give you a compliment for not making yourself look more like a jackass by defending yourself wildly.

It's a great feeling, actually. Anyway, I think after watching the second Zeitgeist film (which is actually a lot more believable and reasonable than the first, which was just completely irrational and full of BS. The Illuminati? COME ON!), even though that was a good film because it made me think, I also began to distrust the government so much that I would buy into any conspiracy I found since my brother twisted the meaning of Addendum around so that it looked like government is an evil organization (obviously he failed to see the change in thought of the Zeitgeist guy).

So remember kids: Don't trust everything you see on the internet. If there is something that convinces you, research it, ask people, and analyze it before you make a jackass of yourself on a public forum.

Originally Posted by Xeves

"I was a patient of Dr Mercola, and he is an MD for the one who asked, for a long time in my childhood. STAY AWAY! Even the people at the health food store I went to said that he was way too extreme. All our family friends left before we did. The man is into fads and making money. He was all about running in the 80s and told a family friend with severe back problems to run every day.
My history with his office is long and every time I hear that name I get annoyed. I had chronic strep as a child and he refused to take my tonsils out. I have been on so much medication that I developed problems to antibiotics."

Indeed. As a general rule, listening to "Dr" Mercola will put your life in danger. I'm amazed that he's not in jail.

As for swine flu, it's not a big threat for those of us who can afford to be on the internet. But flus are a major killer for the less fortunate, and vaccinating yourself doesn't just help yourself, it helps everyone else.