Obama- Good or Bad for the Nation?

Originally Posted by Erasmus

^ err, does he listen to info wars on a regular basis?

Who? Me? I told ye, I heard it from an ex-friend. I don't know 'bout him.

Originally Posted by DrZaius1

The American left-of-center is the international dead center.

Actually, Obama would be considered a far right in Sweden. The right-of-center party in Sweden that controls here right now would be considered communists in America.

Originally Posted by Danger

Actually, Obama would be considered a far right in Sweden. The right-of-center party in Sweden that controls here right now would be considered communists in America.

He was saying most of the mainstream news outlets are left-of-center as far as American politics go, making them more or less center internationally. With Obama being somewhere between center and right-of-center in American politics, that could make him right-of-center to right internationally.

Originally Posted by Ogmios22188

He was saying most of the mainstream news outlets are left-of-center as far as American politics go, making them more or less center internationally. With Obama being somewhere between center and right-of-center in American politics, that could make him right-of-center to right internationally.

Politics and newspapers confuse me.

Originally Posted by Danger

Actually, Obama would be considered a far right in Sweden. The right-of-center party in Sweden that controls here right now would be considered communists in America.

I said internationally, not just in Sweden.

I like the guy a lot better than George W Bush. I liked some of his speeches, let's see if he's actually man enough to fulfill his promises.

But overall, I don't like him enough to have him as a President. So I am really glad that I do not live in America.

Originally Posted by hireshi

I like the guy a lot better than George W Bush. I liked some of his speeches, let's see if he's actually man enough to fulfill his promises.

But overall, I don't like him enough to have him as a President. So I am really glad that I do not live in America.

You read my thoughts.

Originally Posted by DrZaius1

I said internationally, not just in Sweden.

I never said "Hey you're wrong, it's like this in Sweden".

Originally Posted by hireshi

But overall, I don't like him enough to have him as a President. So I am really glad that I do not live in America.

Not liking the current President is the silliest reason ever to not want to live in the country.

There's probably plenty of good reasons why someone wouldn't want to live in America; opinions toward the current President isn't one of them, however.

I think that Obama is doing better than Bush. However, I would like to see him be less celebrity, more president.

Originally Posted by Danger

Actually, Obama would be considered a far right in Sweden. The right-of-center party in Sweden that controls here right now would be considered communists in America.

Sweden's a pretty far-left state and not exactly an utopia.

Given, Obama's close to the center when one looks at Western governments, but many governments (say, Iran or many other small Asian and African states) are still very conservative.

Originally Posted by Orange

Someone who used to be a friend of mine claimed that Obama was going to kill everybody by making swine-flu vaccins that would actually give it to you and kill you.

That is idiotic.

Originally Posted by DrZaius1

The vast majority of free media in the world would be considered as biased to the left as CBS, NBC, ABC, and CNN are domestically. When that's the middle ground on an international scale but is considered biased on one nation's political scale, I'd tend to go with the international viewpoint, especially in this case.

Not CBS. Oh god no.

Originally Posted by Wolfen

I like him. Good speaker, isn't afraid to tell us we're being idiots, and isn't all "War on Terror."

Good speaking is how he got into office, and that is how it has been for the U.S. for a long time. We haven't had a dumb president in a long time (including Obama, he is quite intelligent), but look at Bush-people hate him and point to his errors in improvisation as well as the War on Terror, but only the latter matters.

Originally Posted by Shmehzzie can

The war funds are literally less than a third of what the stimulus package cost.

It's way too much on both sides. The U.S. government is bleeding from self-injuries and incompetence.

Originally Posted by Anann

You shouldn't have to pay a dime for healthcare. How goddamned long is it going to be before americans finally understand that?

This isn't quite my argument, but is healthcare a right? Locke, the traditional go-to guy for things like this, never said so.

Originally Posted by Puck

And he has compromised far to much on health care reform, he's willing to drop the public option! If that's not compromise what the hell is?

Oh, wow? Cool.

Originally Posted by Cukeman

The idea of extending time in school is complete crap. If kids aren't learning enough it's because
of the lack of quality education, not that they need more time in school.

The American school system is costly, ineffective, and tiresome.

Originally Posted by Captain Ivan

Not CBS. Oh god no.

First Interpretation: CBS is considered one of the "mainstream news media outlets" by the conservative movement as being liberally-biased. It's really not.

Second Interpretation: I don't really like CBS either.

Originally Posted by Captain Ivan

This isn't quite my argument, but is healthcare a right? Locke, the traditional go-to guy for things like this, never said so.

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/

not only did we sign this, we helped write it. the least we can do is abide by our own standards.

The American school system is costly, ineffective, and tiresome.

Then you must have gone to a really ****ty, underfunded school. I went to public school and things were just fine.

Originally Posted by Danger

Politics and newspapers confuse me.

Opinions confuse me. There's so many of them that they blog out my own would be opinions. If I was to think hard about whether something was wrong or right, I would probably randomly pick.

Oh yeah and Obama hasn't really done that much that I have heard of. He is definately is more outgoing than Bush was, which conforms to how society is today - very outgoing and loose.

Then you must have gone to a really ****ty, underfunded school. I went to public school and things were just fine.

I go to a public school in Florida. If you didn't know Florida is ranked 50th in school funding from the government.

And yet my school finds ways to purchase 2 HD televisions for our cafeteria that have never been turned on, and we can't get the proper textbooks.

I went to private school in the South. There are people I know who went to public school who had vastly better educations then I did. Southern education standards are generally terrible.

i heard form several christians that obama was an 8headed anti-christ
lmao all i can say to that is,if he turns out to be that i call dibs on the first fight with him XD lol

Originally Posted by Toon Flink

I go to a public school in Florida. If you didn't know Florida is ranked 50th in school funding from the government.

And yet my school finds ways to purchase 2 HD televisions for our cafeteria that have never been turned on, and we can't get the proper textbooks.

that would fall under the definition of a ****ty school. the administration should use their money more wisely than that.

Originally Posted by PrimeMaterialDuelist

i heard form several christians that obama was an 8headed anti-christ

I heard that several Christians are dumb.

Originally Posted by Tyras

that would fall under the definition of a ****ty school. the administration should use their money more wisely than that.

Yes, I hate how stupid people can be at times. We also have horrible teachers that barely know what they are talking about (my english teacher last year took our midterm test and failed it, while the class average was a B+).

Luckily I am smart and take the most advanced classes that my school allows for me to take.

One thing I very, VERY much want Obama to do, is invest a great deal of money in the countries infrastructure. Over half of America's bridges are over 5 years old, our pipes like 6 billion gallons of water A DAY. Levies around the country are in dangerous conditions. Roadways are in deplorable conditions. Patch and pray has to stop. Investing our infrastructure is investing in the life blood of our commerce.

From the 30's to the 60's America's infrastructure was the best in the world. It's falling into a third world state. In a country with as many resources and as much money as America, it should be unacceptable.