Lets get mappy.

[MDS13]

Old myth, the bottom of Death mountain in AoL is the LoZ map,but check this link:

http://www.freewebs.com/hehehecool/z...12%5b1%5d2.JPG

And the AoL version:

http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/reyvgm_zelda2.gif

What do ya think about this?

[TheManInTheMoon]

top map (comics version) isn't canon.

[MDS13]

Originally Posted by MercuryMule

top map (comics version) isn't canon.

No duh, it's interesting though







.........i love these smilies......

[TheManInTheMoon]

yet you say

Old myth, the bottom of Death mountain in AoL is the LoZ map

and back it up with that map.

[MDS13]

Originally Posted by MercuryMule

yet you say
and back it up with that map.

Well,there are two maps that show it and the other one shows the mini Zelda 1 map, besides, if you knew that was not canon, then you knew enough about this to understand my point, which means you're just trying to be a nusiance.This is meant for discussing this topic, not spamming, I just thought that map was interesting so chill out and lets get back on topic

[omega12]

What is "Calatia"?

Another kingdom ajacent to hyrule?

[MDS13]

Originally Posted by omega12

What is "Calatia"?

Another kingdom ajacent to hyrule?

I did not understand it either.

[Erimgard]

Calatia is a made up kingdom, I believe from the manga.
It's said that Link came from Calatia.

[Stuit]

A myth?
What do you think this is:

[omega12]

Part of the map showing wher the hammer is.

[Erimgard]

compare it to this:


Graveyard with twin ponds to the east, and a smaller pond further east

[MDS13]

Apparently it is a model of the first map, but on ZD, they say it could be linked to the top left of LoZ's Death Mountain and I believe it too. Besides, the "model" has no other use, which is rare in this game.

[Chaos Auteur]

Pick up a copy of the official NES Game Atlas from Nintendo Power (published in 1991), and check out the Zelda II section:

It outright compares the original Legend of Zelda Overworld region to the scope of the Adventure of Link map, and it's gigantic, with the first game's map fitting into a tiny portion of the southwest of Hyrule.

The comic book map got the scale of the southern kingdom wrong (at least according to the in-game NES maps), as it shouldn't extend outward to the eastern islands like that, but otherwise, the general notion is still correct.

On the other hand, the scope of the southern kingdom as seen from Ocarina of Time onward better fits the comic map's notion of an expanded region there, so maybe the a bit of retconning is called for, here (and perhaps has already taken place).

I could certainly live with either version, myself, and in fact the comics map works much better in this context, particularly if you're a fan of the more recent games in the series.

Personally -- in light of OoT, TWW, and TP -- I'd now probably go for the comics map over the in-game one, as even the Nintendo designers themselves have retconned/changed things after the fact to better fit their current conceptions of the Zelda universe.

Originally Posted by omega12

What is "Calatia"?

Another kingdom ajacent to hyrule?

Pretty much, yup, similar to Ordon Province in Twilight Princess -- both have Links originating there, and journeying into Hyrule proper to take down Ganon, et cetera.

It's quite interesting that a story-concept from an early source like the Legend of Zelda comics would show up years later in a "modern" game of the series.

I've always held the Calatia backstory to be canonical, and this was unexpectedly validated by Twilight Princess's notion of other Links being born outside the kingdom, the same as the comics.

[Gregg]

Wow! I just recently finished playing ZII AoL and noticed that the southwest corner of Hyrule appeared unusual in that there wasn't much going on there. Having played the original many times (it is the only other Zelda game I've played!), I am very familiar with the original overworld.

It is fascinating to see the original LoZ overworld map in the corner of the AoL map!

[Chaos Auteur]

It's not unlike, say, Dragon Warrior/Quest II, where you eventually sail to the Kingdom of Alefgard from the first game, and find that it's suddenly merely one tiny corner of a MUCH bigger game world.

[Lefty2k59]

That map showing Calatia is from a fan made game in the works. Its supposed to be a direct sequel to AoL. I do find that map interesting though. Its a good thought. Zelda 3 Challenge ~ Quest for Calatia

[TheManInTheMoon]

They didn't make that map, it comes from the Valiant Comics.

[BigGoronSword]

Originally Posted by Erimgard

compare it to this:
Graveyard with twin ponds to the east, and a smaller pond further east

If you think that's similar, take a look at this old post of mine:

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

If you want to talk about real mirror versions (and I'm not talking about parallel worlds/dimentions), just take a look at the map and dungeon bosses of LoZ and OoS.

When it comes to bosses, OoA has all the bosses LoZ has (with the exception of Ganon) plus Mothula, the mini-bosses Vire & Moblin King, and General Onox. Though they may appear in a different order according to the dungeons you're suppose to go through, that isn't important.

Map wise, they are pretty much identical. They both have:

• Mountains to the North
• A Graveyard in the West
• A Beach in the South East
• A Desert (though not in the same general location)
• A Lake/river with two islands in it (eyeglass lake)
• The First Dungeon is Located inside a tree.
• The Second Dungeon is Located East of the First Dungeon
• A "Lost Woods"

-BGS

-BGS

[Stuit]

Well, Capcom originally intended to create a remake of LoZ. I guess it shows.

[Erimgard]

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

If you think that's similar, take a look at this old post of mine:
-BGS

Yup, I'm well aware of that, though I don't necessarily believe they are the same. At one point, they were meant to be though, as OoS began as a remake of LoZ.
There's also a section of AoL's map that looks quite a bit like Holodrum, and another section that looks quite a bit like labrynna.

[Margar]

Originally Posted by Chaos Auteur

Pretty much, yup, similar to Ordon Province in Twilight Princess -- both have Links originating there, and journeying into Hyrule proper to take down Ganon, et cetera.

It's quite interesting that a story-concept from an early source like the Legend of Zelda comics would show up years later in a "modern" game of the series.

I've always held the Calatia backstory to be canonical, and this was unexpectedly validated by Twilight Princess's notion of other Links being born outside the kingdom, the same as the comics.

I found Ordon province to be a bit silly as a "province". its population was like 20 people in a village with goats and pumpkins. It really doesn't seem to be self-sufficient, so it's more of a border-town, or out-of-the-way-town built near some sacred forest ruins. *hmm maybe they could make money giving guided tours of the ruins*

I want to see the day when zelda has as many places to go as a game like dragon quest 8 (only one I've ever played).
*crosses fingers for Zelda Wii*

[Chaos Auteur]

Who says, though, that what we saw in Twilight Princess was all that there was in Ordon Province? Very likely there were other inhabitants/settlements, just none directly relevant to the immediate plotline of the game.

[BornFidelity]

Originally Posted by BigGoronSword

If you think that's similar, take a look at this old post of mine:

-BGS

As far as the bosses go, yes. For the maps, though, I'm not convinced at all. The water is the most defining component of map similarity, I think - in the AoL map, it shows clearly - in the OoS game, however - meh.