AoL is awful

Originally Posted by lftenjamin

I'm placing money that most of you you say AoL sucks, is because you can't beat it. If you have beaten the game, maybe your opinion has a valid point, but if you say it sucks because you haven't beaten it, well I feel bad for you.

I personally don't like it, and haven't beaten it, (although I got pretty far), it just didn't spark my interest. I'm not trying to be imposing or rude, but please don't assume that everyone dislikes it just because they can't beat it. Thanks a bunch for listening, and hopefully not giving me a hate-filled reply.

Originally Posted by haldu2

Umm...I'm pretty sure ShiekahSage is a zelda heretic, I've never encountered an awful Zelda(FSA was as close as it got if you didn't have a lot of GBA's)

Originally Posted by Snarwin

Except that it was made a good six years before either Chrono Trigger or Earthbound were released.

Not to mention that bashing Zelda II for being a bad RPG is pretty much completely missing the point. Not every game with experience points has to play like Final Fantasy, you know.

Well, maybe it was a good example of a RPG when it was released, but I am used to playing games like FF VII. Maybe if I was older and was able to play it when it first came out, I would have liked it better, but when I compare it to other games that have come since then...

Originally Posted by lftenjamin

I'm placing money that most of you you say AoL sucks, is because you can't beat it. If you have beaten the game, maybe your opinion has a valid point, but if you say it sucks because you haven't beaten it, well I feel bad for you.

I have beaten it, though I played through the remake instead of the original. I never owned the original for a few reasons. I didn't have a habit of asking for video games back then when Christmas or my birthday came around, and I wasn't into Zelda enough after playing the original game to go out and look for another Zelda title.

So I played LA, OoT, ALttP, MM, LoZ, and probably others. Those games had secondary weapons to use when the enemies didn't fall quickly to the sword. Those games also had ways of teleporting or warping around so you don't have to go from one end of the world to the other to get to a temple/dungeon.

The lack of those two things made me like AoL less. There's also the fact that you have to max out all three of your stats just to beat the game in AoL.

I had played RPGs before, and in most you don't have to have your level maxxed out just to get to and through the last area and fight the last boss.

That made me like the game even less. The only things I credit AoL for is that it is a very challenging game, and it did introduce new things like spells and the ToC to the series. It also had a definitely better story than the original. I still like the original better.

AoL is one of the two true Zeldas (Cdi aren't true Zelda game, since they aren't approved by Nintendo) that I actually just don't like. I choose not to list the other, to prevent off topic discussion about that other game on this thread.

Bottom line: I played it, beat it, and gave it a thumbs down.

Originally Posted by *__Link__*

I personally don't like it, and haven't beaten it, (although I got pretty far), it just didn't spark my interest. I'm not trying to be imposing or rude, but please don't assume that everyone dislikes it just because they can't beat it. Thanks a bunch for listening, and hopefully not giving me a hate-filled reply.

I can understand you. My comment was meant towards the people who don't bother to get to the first temple, or the candle for that matter, and then go to say that its too hard, and must suck. You made it halfway through, maybe further, maybe less. I can understand if playing through the first few temples, and you weren't getting a connection for the game, ok your opinion is valid.

Originally Posted by Daphnes

I have beaten it, though I played through the remake instead of the original. I never owned the original for a few reasons. I didn't have a habit of asking for video games back then when Christmas or my birthday came around, and I wasn't into Zelda enough after playing the original game to go out and look for another Zelda title.

So I played LA, OoT, ALttP, MM, LoZ, and probably others. Those games had secondary weapons to use when the enemies didn't fall quickly to the sword. Those games also had ways of teleporting or warping around so you don't have to go from one end of the world to the other to get to a temple/dungeon.

The lack of those two things made me like AoL less. There's also the fact that you have to max out all three of your stats just to beat the game in AoL.

I had played RPGs before, and in most you don't have to have your level maxxed out just to get to and through the last area and fight the last boss.

That made me like the game even less. The only things I credit AoL for is that it is a very challenging game, and it did introduce new things like spells and the ToC to the series. It also had a definitely better story than the original. I still like the original better.

AoL is one of the two true Zeldas (Cdi aren't true Zelda game, since they aren't approved by Nintendo) that I actually just don't like. I choose not to list the other, to prevent off topic discussion about that other game on this thread.

Bottom line: I played it, beat it, and gave it a thumbs down.

Ok, I can see where you are coming from also. I happened to not mind the leveling up to the max, the teleporting thing I suppose is a bit of an annoyance, but I got over that, but I can see how some might not.

The sword one, I've never thought about. It is side screen based, so I guess its just the way the game is, again this never really bothered me.


Anyway, I guess I should appologise for my generalizing in my first post, but yeah, like I said already, for the people who never gave it a chance, and say its too hard (nintendotogepi) I feel bad for you.

Originally Posted by ShiekahSage

Well, maybe it was a good example of a RPG when it was released, but I am used to playing games like FF VII. Maybe if I was older and was able to play it when it first came out, I would have liked it better, but when I compare it to other games that have come since then...

Well here's news for you (and everyone else, for that matter):

Zelda II is not, has never been, and was never meant to be "a good example of an RPG."

The reason that Zelda II is not like Final Fantasy is that (surprise!) it isn't supposed to be like Final Fantasy. It's a Zelda game. A Zelda game with experience points tacked on, perhaps, but a Zelda game all the same. How it compares to other RPGs is entirely beside the point.

Originally Posted by HeroOfTime5

Hahah I used a walkthrough for the whole entire game. It is so hard. I couldn't imagine beating it without one...

Hahah , I had problems with that game even WITH a guide LOL

I didn't have really any passion to play the game in the first place, so maybe i should give it another try in the future

I played it some more today and got to the first dungeon.

Still awful.

Maybe it's just me but the controls feel really off and clunky. I press the sword button when the enemy is right next to me yet the enemy does not get hit.

then you fail at the game, it's just you then

I've got AoL. I haven't made it far, but I don't think it's awful. And I think that Link to the Past looks like fun.

I do have to say, Adventure of Link probably IS the worst Zelda game I've played.

But it's still a good freakin' game overall. I think that speaks volumes about the quality of the series as a whole.

Originally Posted by Snarwin

Well here's news for you (and everyone else, for that matter):

Zelda II is not, has never been, and was never meant to be "a good example of an RPG."

The reason that Zelda II is not like Final Fantasy is that (surprise!) it isn't supposed to be like Final Fantasy. It's a Zelda game. A Zelda game with experience points tacked on, perhaps, but a Zelda game all the same. How it compares to other RPGs is entirely beside the point.

Well, whether I compare it too other RPGs or to other Zeldas, it still is subpar. The only good things it did was make the most challengimg zelda there ever was (and likely ever will be) and to introduce the ToC.

Originally Posted by NintendoTogepi

I played it some more today and got to the first dungeon.

Still awful.

Maybe it's just me but the controls feel really off and clunky. I press the sword button when the enemy is right next to me yet the enemy does not get hit.

Translation:
The game is too hard.

Seriously, give the game a chance. It is tough but try to stick it out. You haven't even played enough to uncover any secrets yet.

I agree to that the game is one of the worst zelda games ever. Its so *****in boring and i dont even understand what to do and that guy in the first temple that jumps and throw some kind of torches at you. What is it??? A giant beaver?

You have to approach the game with an open mind, and realize that it was made quite some time ago. To truly appreciate it, I think the player has to try to picture this being a brand-new concept. It was big back when it came out, and the graphics were excellent. (I did try to, but it just never really piqued my interest). All I'm sayin' is; just give it a little chance, maybe go a little past the first or second dungeon, and see if you really hate it or not.

I have played and beat the game. It's hard as hell, but definately worth it when you destroy Thunderbird and

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Dark Link.

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My only beefs with it are the Home-point (North Castle every time you get GAME OVER), and the difficult gauntlet you have to fly through (Yes, I said 'fly') to get to the Seventh Palace.

If there is any sort of change that SHOULD be made, it should be to be able to change your Home-point. (That way, the difficulty would still be an 8 or so outta 10, but you don't have to 'run the marathon' Every. Single. Time.

There, I've said my piece.

The game isn't that bad, it's just old. I don't like it that much, but it isn't bad.