Zelda 2

[NEO92]

i wouldn't play it all the time or over a normal zelda game, but it was a worthy gamble. nintendo should've done it later when LOZ was more of a force because they could've gotten beat on Zelda 2.

[MLNick]

Not sure what you mean by "gotten beat on Zelda 2".

Do you mean that it could've been the downfall of Ninty? The NES was HUGE in those days. One bad game wouldn't have felled the company.

[Mrs. Kassi Aileron]

From what I heard, Zelda II was actually on the list of worst games ever made. That broke my heart. I don't know, maybe the guy who told me that didn't have his facts straight. It's a wonderful game, though.

[MLNick]

Originally Posted by WhataboutKasuto

From what I heard, Zelda II was actually on the list of worst games ever made. That broke my heart. I don't know, maybe the guy who told me that didn't have his facts straight. It's a wonderful game, though.

Maybe the worst Zelda game? It's not a bad game - probably the worst Zelda (except cdi) game, but still not bad.

There is no official list of worst games ever made anyways. It's all opinion. There are so many games worse than it.

[sugarpoultry]

I wouldn't say its the worst, probably not very popular. But, Zelda II is probably the hardest Zelda game out there, because its pure combat. I can't beat it for the life of me.

[Sypher]

Originally Posted by sugarpoultry

I wouldn't say its the worst, probably not very popular. But, Zelda II is probably the hardest Zelda game out there, because its pure combat. I can't beat it for the life of me.

Same here, the part I got stuck on was around where I needed certain amount of Magic bars. After that I couldn't take it anymore.

Its still a very fun game though.

[Keaton-King]

What's cdi?
I think Zelda 2 is the worst Zelda game ever!
... Yet... I play it...

[MLNick]

Originally Posted by Keaton-King

What's cdi?
I think Zelda 2 is the worst Zelda game ever!
... Yet... I play it...

It's a console by philips. There were 3 zelda games released on it (they are shunned because of crappyness and not being official nintendo games)

[Sherm]

Originally Posted by NEO92

i wouldn't play it all the time or over a normal zelda game, but it was a worthy gamble. nintendo should've done it later when LOZ was more of a force because they could've gotten beat on Zelda 2.

I'm not sure what the original point of this thread is. Zelda II came at a time when LoZ was a HUGE force! The NES was THE console and everyone was screaming for more Zelda! It came at the perfect time and introduced several features found in todays new Zelda games(magic, towns, the hammer, etc).

The game gets a bad rep because it is hard. It seems today that each new Zelda game is easier then the one before it. And that's what people seem to want(not me). Zelda II does not take people by the hand and walk them through the game......there are no Navi's or Midnas. Zelda II forces people to think, the battles are tough, and true Zelda skills need to be developed in order to finish the game.

[Nihilus]

I can see why some people despise AoL, because it in many ways is a departure from its predecessor. However, I never once disliked the game. One thing I liked about it was it's music. Another was being able to go to towns and interact with NPCs. Learning spells was a nice addition. The bosses are memorable, especially the final one.

I agree with anyone who says it is the hardest Zelda game.

[Chaos Auteur]

Originally Posted by MLNick

Maybe the worst Zelda game? It's not a bad game - probably the worst Zelda (except cdi) game, but still not bad.

There is no official list of worst games ever made anyways. It's all opinion. There are so many games worse than it.

Trust me...Zelda II was the equivalent of a Fellini film compared to the sheer, wretched, utterly-beneath-contempt dreck that were the two Philips CD/i games.

People who go around spouting off about The Adventure of Link somehow being "bad" are typically (A) 'tweeners who rarely play games not produced during the last five years; and (B) folks with a severe "forest-for-the-trees" perspective deficit who don't know what the hell they're even talking about.

The Philips CD/i games were capable of giving breast cancer to passing Chihuahuas.

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link has stood the test of time, and is deservedly exalted as a bona fide classic.

It's still to this very day one of the foundational building-blocks of the entire Zelda mythos, and doesn't have anything to prove to anyone.

[zeldaholic104]

I love zelda 2 it's just so good. On my list the top three are (in order)
Alttp
AoL
OoT

[Noscreenname]

I love that game! I disagree with anyone who considers it the "worst Zelda game," in my opinion it has one of the best combat systems in the series. Though it had plenty of faults, such as its immense difficulty, added to which were limited lives and the fact that you had to walk all the way to each dungeon every time you had to start over (this is especially frustrating on the path to the final temple).

[flpmagikat]

Originally Posted by Chaos Auteur

Trust me...Zelda II was the equivalent of a Fellini film compared to the sheer, wretched, utterly-beneath-contempt dreck that were the two Philips CD/i games.

People who go around spouting off about The Adventure of Link somehow being "bad" are typically (A) 'tweeners who rarely play games not produced during the last five years; and (B) folks with a severe "forest-for-the-trees" perspective deficit who don't know what the hell they're even talking about.

The Philips CD/i games were capable of giving breast cancer to passing Chihuahuas.

Zelda II: The Adventure of Link has stood the test of time, and is deservedly exalted as a bona fide classic.

It's still to this very day one of the foundational building-blocks of the entire Zelda mythos, and doesn't have anything to prove to anyone.

Agreed, 100%.

Originally Posted by Sherm

I'm not sure what the original point of this thread is. Zelda II came at a time when LoZ was a HUGE force! The NES was THE console and everyone was screaming for more Zelda! It came at the perfect time and introduced several features found in todays new Zelda games(magic, towns, the hammer, etc).

The game gets a bad rep because it is hard. It seems today that each new Zelda game is easier then the one before it. And that's what people seem to want(not me). Zelda II does not take people by the hand and walk them through the game......there are no Navi's or Midnas. Zelda II forces people to think, the battles are tough, and true Zelda skills need to be developed in order to finish the game.

Sorry for the double post, I just don't know how to quote two messages in one. But yeah, I basically agree again 100%. You do actually have to think about this and LoZ. You must take the hints you get and figure out what they mean on your own, without a tagalong character explaining the meaning of EVERYTHING. And yeah, people say it's too different so that's why they don't like it, but to me it's almost more like the newer ones people compare it to because of the things you mentioned(magic, towns, etc) Obviously the use of lives rather than hearts is quite different, but it was almost nice in a sadistic way when you had to pay for falling in pits and lava. True Zelda skills indeed.

[Lord Westcott]

Originally Posted by flpmagikat

Sorry for the double post, I just don't know how to quote two messages in one. But yeah, I basically agree again 100%. You do actually have to think about this and LoZ. You must take the hints you get and figure out what they mean on your own, without a tagalong character explaining the meaning of EVERYTHING. And yeah, people say it's too different so that's why they don't like it, but to me it's almost more like the newer ones people compare it to because of the things you mentioned(magic, towns, etc) Obviously the use of lives rather than hearts is quite different, but it was almost nice in a sadistic way when you had to pay for falling in pits and lava. True Zelda skills indeed.

To multi-quote there is a button next to the quote button; use that up until the last person you're quoting then click quote. Or, click quote, type your response, copy the whole lot, go back, quote someone esle and paste the first lot in at the start.

At first, I hated Zelda II with a passion, and when I played it i couldn't even get past the first little bit, but then when I gave it a proper go, I realised it was fantastic, and carried on playing until I completed it. I'd say it is probably the third best Zelda game, after OoT and ALttP. I think Wind Waker was the worst ever, because the graphic didn't fit, you were spoon-fed all the information you needed and it was too oversimplified. Plus, the storyline was weak. Zelda II is not like that at all.

[LinkDS3]

Its last on my list of zelda favorites..but its still good. Really hard...but I liked the music.

[Mrs. Kassi Aileron]

Everyone likes the music! Everyone likes its appearence in SSBM, yet no one likes the game. The sad part is that Koji Kondo had nothing to do with it. I wonder how they mustered up the courage to ask Kondo to compose the score for ALTTP. 0_o

[Chaos Auteur]

Oh, the music's absolutely a classic, in particular the "town" and "residential" themes (when you're inside someone's home). Very immersive and atmospheric.

More's the pity it hasn't really resurfaced in recent Zeldas the way the themes from the later games have, though.

[Aeffles]

First of all, I'm biased, seeing as AoL is one of my, if not my, favorite Zelda game.

It was an excellent game, introducing magic, and more tactical battle schemes with upstab and downstab. I liked the music, the enemies and the skill involved and needed to beat it. The music was good, hidden things, and traveling. The introduction of towns also was a great thing. I loved the game, and I think that it personally showed that Zelda wasn't just walking around a map, but it was slowly evolving into a more indepth game. And now we see how it made it's way from LoZ to TP, and it's awesome. And in my opinion, it all started with AoL.

In any case, the game was great, most people didn't like it due to the difference from LoZ and the attack modes, etc. I loved it.

Worst game ever? No effin way. Worst Zelda, to most people, yeah.

If you're into "worst video games of all time" or at least NES games, check out the angry nintendo nerd on youtube for some laughs. But his language is very strong so be weary.

[Mrs. Kassi Aileron]

Oh, A, I've seen some of those funny videos on Youtube about people freaking out with games. Are you referring to the "Impossible Mario" video? That thing makes me bust up every time..

Originally Posted by Chaos Auteur

Oh, the music's absolutely a classic, in particular the "town" and "residential" themes (when you're inside someone's home). Very immersive and atmospheric.

More's the pity it hasn't really resurfaced in recent Zeldas the way the themes from the later games have, though.

Well, the Temple theme did resurface in SSBM. Everyone loves it!

I think, honestly, the only people who really love the game are biased. What's wrong with that? I'd place it ahead of OoT on my list, which may be considered "sacreligious" by some. Hmph! <3 AoL

[NintendoTogepi]

Not a big fan of Zelda II at all.

For me, it's not only the worst Zelda game, it's one of the worst games ever made.

I'd put it third, along with Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde and WarioWare: Twisted.

Unspeakably bad.

[MrRandom]

Zelda II seems like a fine game, but not really my thing. It's an oddball mix of arcade side-scrolling fighter and leveling-up driven RPG which works for some, but not me personally. To say it's a bad game is a bit harsh, though.

[Aeffles]

Originally Posted by NintendoTogepi

Not a big fan of Zelda II at all.

For me, it's not only the worst Zelda game, it's one of the worst games ever made.

I'd put it third, along with Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde and WarioWare: Twisted.

Unspeakably bad.

How could you? I mean, I could understand you not liking it, but with DR. JEKYL AND MR. HYDE!?!? Come on, that's just... no.

[Lord Westcott]

Originally Posted by AEF Link

How could you? I mean, I could understand you not liking it, but with DR. JEKYL AND MR. HYDE!?!? Come on, that's just... no.

lmao

No Zelda II was great. 3rd best Zelda, and one of the greatest games of all time. I don't really remember the music, but I'm sure it was good. Yes the game was weird, but come on people, this was 1988! I think we can excuse the lack of the technology we see in games like OoT, MM, TP or even TWW! Try to look past that - we have a reasonably strong storyline, apparently good music, fantastic temples, a much bigger challenge than any other Zelda game to date, and the first appearance of many Zelda components we take for granted today, such as magic, the hammer, towns and Dark Link.

Given all that, how can anyone maintain that the game was bad?